Well... It was great times when DE was able to create quests that you will want to complete again and will remember. Now we have whisper in the walls... Personally I don't like it because of romance between Albrecht and Loyd...
I still find it sad that Umbra didn't become a permanent character in the story. With all that stuff we were talking about, you'd expect that Umbra would be the only warframe that would continue fighting the Narmer during New War. Just think about it, what if the Solari members found Umbra, and the latter decided to start helping them. And then, later on, while we're playing as Drifter, we will get into a sticky situation and Umbra would come in to save us. That would be a cool way to reunite us with what's probably our most trusted Warframe. Then, during the fights against the Archon, Umbra will be there as a support. We still won't be able to control him since we don't have our Void Powers back, but he'd still be fighting beside us. It's just sad that this character was completely written out even though they could've done so much with Umbra.
I like how they show how swift and forceful umbras arm moves as he lofts his blade, showing how strong these warframes physically are. The superhuman movement was spot on.
when I first played this. I was hoping they do something like this, with the other two starter frames. Since they too were overshadowed by the frames that came after. giving them something the others didn't.
THIS! This was a peak of Warframe lore and story. A truly atmosphere peak, where all connected in each other and form whole big story with characters and... some interesting thoughts. *UNLIKE THE NEW WAR!*
We are children who have lost our parents three times other: first our bio parents and then Margulis and now the Lotus. He is a parent who has lost his only child by his own hand but forced by his Orokin master. Both of them are reliving the moment they lost those loved ones and swimming through the pain. The only difference is we, the Tenno, have one another to lean on while Umbra did not have anyone. It makes sense why Tenno connect to this particular Warframe so easily once Umbra realizes they are no threat to him: they need one another.
I wish Umbra had more of a presence in the story after this. Beyond this mission he's just another frame, albeit one that can move on its own. He deserves to be more of a character
It's such a shame cause you would've expected Umbra to be an important character in the New War. Like, Umbra could literally continue fighting even without a Tenno. So imagine if Umbra had actually been searching for us the entire time. Then, we'd be reunited with him later on during a mission where the Drifter would be trapped. We won't be able to control him yet, since we don't have our void powers yet, but it would've been cool to have him there helping us fight against the Archons.
So its was a glitch, for me when umbra pick up his sword in the background there was another umbra swinging his sword and my heart disappeared why did i edit my comment
Why is no one talking about the "Don't worry old friend, I'm not going to kill your boy... **You are**" I out loud said "oh shit-" when that happened because I was so immersed and in that moment made the connection of corrupted **insert name of Umbra here** + Ballas' speech about each token being a family member taken away + all the infestation in the room + plus it's all a memory so it already happened = "Oh shit wait Umbra NO-"
We need a couple more to "Take away their pain" Valkyr, Limbo, Maybe Nidus, Rhino among others. We need to have them in black and moving, we need them to think, quite literally...
@@Simon_Azrael_The_Doctor Very unlikely, cause he is up there with Xaku and Caliban for having the least/no humanity (Xaku is a construct, Caliban is a sentient, Nidus is pure infestation iirc)
@@someguy2347 all(most) Warframes are, or atleast, were human at one point I'd like to see a nidus umbra in the terms of What little humanity that remains in the meat puppet struggles against the will of the infestation Kinda like jordas And we put its mind at ease when we subdue the will of the infestation with our own
@@Simon_Azrael_The_Doctor This is kind of agreeable at this point, but I feel like albeit possible for these to be an umbra I feel like DE might first go with either the OG 8 or some of the following lorewise-accurate examples: -Sevagoth (Like the stalker, he is one of the only warframes currently who can speak, his shadow too) -Valkyr (Depends on whether or not the whole Alad V stuff happened before or after transference. If it was before the frames were fitted for transference, then the trauma she might have suffered might be enough to still keep her mind intact enough to be an umbra) -Titania (As we know somebody managed to tap into her mind and discovered that she not only still has rational thoughts, but she also possessed feelings) -Rhino (For what I know he might've been one of the involuntary "lab rats", cause for what I know he attempted to escape and run away while partially turned) I am not so sure about others atm, but will edit this comment probably if new info presents itself to my knowledge. For what I know the Leverian stories and Waverider graphica shouldn't be believed as hard evidence for possible umbras, cause neither Drusus, nor the guy who made Waverider were aware of the Tenno or transference and treated the frames as themselves, so for now we exclude the following: -Ash (though because he is an OG, he might be the most likely to be Umbrified) -Atlas -Grendel -Gauss -Ivara -Lavos -Nova -Nezha -Styanax -Voruna -Yareli
Ballas' monologue during the unity. It just shows how the Orokin are so flawed in their philosophy, beliefs, and behaviors. They deem themselves "so perfect on the inside" but "they are rotten, through and through", as worded by Margulis. They dehumanized their best Dax soldiers to create weapons of mass destruction that barely anyone could hope to ever stop. They thought that the only way to control them was through violence and torture. They tried and tried until the Tenno came to be and for some reason unbeknownst to the Orokin, the Tenno controlled the Warframes like it was child's play. Literally. But they thought it was because of the Void powers the children have. That was completely wrong. Margulis served as their mother figure and provided them the compassion and love they needed when everyone turned against them. The Tenno simply did the same for the past Dax soldiers turned into Warframes. The same thing happens here when our Operator unites with Umbra. The Orokin are so culturally flawed to the point that the very concept of love... was FOREIGN to them.
Exactly, look at the most recent conversations between Kahl and Daughter Entrati, she starts to realise what she holds as a family is wrong and messed up, and she just wants to feel the love that Kahl shows so openly to his brothers.
@@brother_sothothonce you complete their quests and learn all of their names you realise the Entrati do care for each other deeply. It isn't messed up. They are human to a fault.
@@caliburn1123 Yes they do, but there are two things here: 1) The Entrati are already weirdos by Orokin standards. 2) I think to a degree they cannot help themselves, but as a culture the Orokin definitely fucked up enormously.
Umbra spent his life trying to murder Ballas in revenge for what he did to he and Issah, but with the New War quest, our Tenno can finally finish what Umbra set out to do - To snuff out the gold from Ballas’s vain glory, and put him out of commission. I like to imagine that for those who didn’t bring Umbra to the New War quest, he was watching from the Orbiter, silently thanking the Tenno, feeling through some Orokin-made force that Ballas had been slain.
@@Keram-io8hv Yeah and I really dislike that The few things I would've changed... Have Erra give you the Caliban so it makes sense since sentients are able to survive in the sun because of their armor and resistence and it's a great way to try and see if we would enjoy the new frame (Kinda like the battle in the void with Sevagoth) Have Umbra be a background character, as in, have him be the one piloting the Railjack with Cephalon Cy to help you. And the final fight Cy sends Umbra to you to help with the finishing blow. But show Umbra slowly getting burned by the sun (leading to a new free skin at the end of the quest). (I like the fact that whatever warframe you use means that warframe armor can survive being melted by the sun but can't fight against flamethrowers)
2:28 TFW some random kids learn empathy, and the Orokin are like "yo WTF how he do that???" when they manage to actually utilize the Warframes by empathizing w/ the infested hosts
its kinda interesting that Balas of all people could see what the Tenno were doing with transference, and he didnt try to chalk it up to some demon trick.
Ballas wasnt your average orokin He did fall in love with a normal person (Margullis) after all And well...he also tried to eat the sun but i guess that all orokins would do that if they could
