This reminds me of how I used to tell people that I was part Greek even though I was in a very predominantly Acadian area (like 97%, though I’m just guessing). I even taught them words in « Greek » 😂 I was around 7-8 years old. I don’t think my friends really believed me, but we were all entertained. Unrelated story aside, I enjoy watching these shows. I have always been interested in genealogy. It’s so fascinating to learn about people who you have never met, but are the very reasons why you’re here. I, in a very amateur way, drew my family tree by researching in French Canadian repertories. I only have the names and some significant dates (birth, death, weddings). I wish I know some of their stories.
Caucasians does not mean Turks. The Greeks lived in the Caucasus before the Slavic people. Caucasian blood means Pontic Greek, known by the name Lazz. Now, about the Asian blood: Asia Minor, by the coast of today's Turkey, was Greek for thousands of years. The Ionian Greeks lived there, and the area was not called Asia but Ionia. They were of Indo-European descent. Homer was an Ionian Greek. The DNA tests are taken from today's geography and reflect the populations known today.
Σε όλα τα κράτη τα ίδια συμβαίνουν. Απλώς στα πλούσια κράτη υπάρχει προς το παρόν περιθώριο. Κατά τ άλλα, όλοι οι άνθρωποι σε όλα τα κράτη ,παρτάκηδες είναι...
In the 70s, I went to a small private school in NY called St. Andrews Academy and there were many Greeks and we had to learn French and Greek. Now I know why there is a big Greek community. The elementary school was at a big mansion. Good memories.
Ευχαριστώ από καρδιάς και θεωρώ τον εαυτό μου πολύ τυχερό που σας γνώρισα σας.ευχομε Κ,, Αρβελέρ να είστε πάντα καλά για πολλά χρόνια ακόμα γιατί Ο Τόπος μας σας έχει πολύ μα πολύ ανάγκη ❤ δεν καταλαβαίνω αυτοί που πρέπει να σας ακούσουμε δεν ακούνε ; θα τρελαθουμαι , βαιβαια το βίντεο που βλέπω είναι παλιό πριν από (11)χρόνια , Αλλά αλήθεια δεν έχει αλλάξει τίποτα χειρότερα πάμε Αχ Ελλαδα😅
Interestingly, George Robert Stephanopoulos looks very much like my late Father, Eliyahu Kedem (who was an israeli Jewish, with Kurdish roots in northern Iraq = well, *also* a part of the ottoman empire...).
the best dance of kleftiko that ever any dancer have danced.. With the sword in the hand, the hands moving to high and low attack the enemie, and feet springing around to avoid enemies attack... NO other kleftiko dancing is ever so perfect performed and filmed as this one.. it is Documentary and unique... 1:21:30 - 1:24:00
Tina Fay's face shows that she couldn't care less about her family going through major events of the 1821 War like the Chios Massacre, or about her ancestor being a decorated war veteran. On the other hand, she was over the moon when she was told that she had a fairly prominent English-American ancestor on her father's side. Talk about a chip on her shoulder. This huge inferiority complex towards WASPs really made me dislike her. George Stephanopoulos seems more relaxed and seemed to actually care about his family's history, even though he only seems to grasp half of it in and in a typically American way. As a lawyer who often had to dig into Greek archives for Greek-American clients, I've got to hand it to the show's team - they really did do a good job finding information on everyone, even though they could find even more if they tried. Henry Louis Gates makes a point of mentioning that Greece doesn't have records going back centuries all the way to Plato because of the Ottomans and the Nazis and whatever. WTF? No country in Europe has records going back further than the Middle Ages. Southern Greece does have records going back to 1821, and Venetian-held territories have records going back to the 1200s. Nowadays even Ottoman records going back to the 16th century are being digitized and translated, providing easy access to information on more Greek regions.
Misleading, no fraudulent, to characterize the Anatolian and Caucasian ancestry as Turkish. Turkish would show as central Asian or east Asian. Caucasian is Georgian and Armenian. Greek colonies were in Anatolia in the mythic era, alongside Lycians, Luwians, Hittites etc. who brought their own mix of Caucasian and European DNA to the existing Anatolian farmer population. The much later Turkic contribution is barely a blip.
Auroral immortal Aphrodite, child of God, artful weaver, I beg you, O my Queen, neither with ache nor anguish conquer my spirit! But come to me-come to me now! Once, long ago, you heard my cry from afar, and from the golden house of your father you came to me, swift and beautiful astride your chariot down to our dark world, escorted by sparrows with fast-fluttering wings whirling round in the heaven-heat of summer. Swiftly they came; and you, o blessed one, your undying face smiling, asked me: ‘Why yet again are you suffering? Why yet again have you called me?’ What most of all did I desire for myself in my passion-heated heart? ‘Who, this time, am I to persuade to love you? Who wrongs you, Sappho? If she flees, soon she shall pursue you. If she refuses your gifts, soon she shall give them. And if she does not love you, soon she shall love you even if she resists.’ Come to me now and free me from my delirious agony. Fulfil what my heart desires and be my ally in the wrestle of love.
Greeks, Armenians and Jews held influential positions in Ottoman governments, commercial enterprises, the military and there were varying degrees of freedom given for religion too.
great, now tell everybody about the massacers of Turks carried out by the ‚always innocent‘ greeks in Pelepponese, tripolice in 1821 and Cyprus, or in 1823 wiping out a whole turkish community in what is now greek territory! And the greeks have the audacity to point to others, how laughable and ridicolous, but then what do you expect from a country that steals culture of course they would lie 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In the later 2000s I was attending an embassy party in Athens and was stood with a friend of mine, a Turkish gentleman married to a Greek lady. All of a sudden this highly educated, well mannered and very funny man ‘exploded’ and had the #2 at the Turkish embassy by the collar. He was absolutely furious. As he was a water polo player it took three of us to get him off the man, and two of us were ex-military. To make things even better once we’d separated them, and gotten him to stop struggling, one of the Turkish embassy security staff came tried to hit him from behind with a full bottle of wine (a professional soldier!). Very fortunately the ladies of the Turkish embassy ‘blocked him’. What had set my friend off? He had just overheard a senior Turkish embassy official (a long serving member of their Foreign Affairs Ministry) say something along the lines of “We are working to take back these colonies …. These colonial types are a joke.” But what had tipped him over was this senior official saying “Their women are sluts but that will change when we come back”. My friend explained later that his sisters had faced increasing, then serious ‘bullying’ from government people in Istanbul (not Ankara) for not wearing headscarves but also this official had just been talking to my friend’s wife … self explanatory his reactions I believe. A senior diplomat stationed in a sensitive Mission in the late 2000s talking like this at an inter embassy social event? … I checked the diplomats name a few years later and he survived (and apparently thrived following) Erdogan’s political witch-hunt and the accompanying killings you don’t hear enough about. As my Turkish friend put it to me then, this was (is?) the pervasive institutional thinking towards Greece and Bulgaria. I was an Adviser when Syria kicked off and the opinions in the media in Turkey at the time … peas in a pod with Putin in 2022. Edit: I should have mentioned Cyprus …. lol at the nonsense they have thrown at them now from Ankara over the oil and gas field explorations that are going on.
Hi, I would like to correct you ( the show) on the part concerning the DNA about Caucasus and Asia Minor. The fact of the mather is that the at least 40% of all greeks (hellenes) have their ancestory in the areas around the coastal line of the Black sea (the pontic greek) including Caucasus, todays Turkey, Georgia, Armenia, Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria. This from ancient times. The same applies to the entire coast of todays Turkey. Citys like Konstantinopel (Istanbul) had about 300.000 thousand greeks until the 1950-1960 when they where forced to leave. Greeks lived in all these areas (Smyrna, Alicarnasos, ) long before the turks arrived. We are talking from approximatly 600-700 BC, through the Roman empire and later the Byzantine empire( Easter roman empire - greek ruled) and also during the Ottoman empire (1453-1919). SO TO SAY THAT SOMEONE THAT HAS ORIGIN IN THESE AREAS IS TURK that is wrong. Turkish origin is from the areas of Mongolia/Kazakstan/Turkmenistan not from Caucasus nor Asia Minor. There where other people that had their origin in these areas such as Caucasus - Georgians, Armenias, Greeks, Laz etc. If we talk about the rest of the Asia Minor then we have people such as Greeks, Armenias, Assyrians/Syriani/Kaldeik, Kurds and even Persian. My answer has nothing to do with beeing against the turks or saying that they are not from Caucasus, Black Sea area or Asia Minor today and from the begining of the 1100 (First the Seldjuks 1100 is small noumbers and later the Ottoman turks appr. 1400 in larger) but the show excluded all others. The turks where about 40% of the total population even during the Ottoman empire.
One things you forget when greek independence start they mascara 350000 Muslim then all this sad story start ………by the way genetically I am greek and Sirbian and google full of muslim Genocide by greek ,sirb ( Bosnia )and Russian even 1980 s Bulgarians do that ,All this hate start by 1825 ( any why they have think if they rules by English probably they cannot speak Greek like Irish and probably they are not orthodox anymore because in Anglican mentality they are heritage )
And you say creek become independent there king came from Germany and many Greek generals imported from England France do you use greek nation To kick out the Muslims to Arabia like in Spain what the Christian united Crusader do to Jew and Muslim …….
reality and truth hurts , know your past to avoid same mistakes in the future, avoid been aggressive when you did so much wrong and harm, owning admitting of your mistakes and seeking forgiveness , you wont see this happening from them
It's a little simplistic to says the Klephts were bandits to the Ottomans and heroes to the Greeks. Prior to the Greek War of Independence, many Klepht bands had no particular allegiance to anyone. Some of them may have been Robin Hoods, but many of them would have no scruples about robbing other Greeks, so many Greeks would not look at all Klephts as heroes. The rehabilitation of the klephts is kind of part of the creation of the Greek national myth
The greatest civilization in the history of the world ? Greece . Which took everything it knew from Egypt, which took everything it knew from the Kingdom of Sumer. Come on, and you call yourself a genealogist ! What a joke this man is ! Even China and India are far older, far greater and far more important in the history of the world. And how many people on the planet have greek DNA today, even just in the western world ? I mean Just Genghis Khan alone (one single man) has his DNA in 16 Million people today. That's just one man. None of the Greek rulers can claim that ! Now don't get me wring, Greece was an extremely important civilization, but first of all, this civilization is long gone and second of all it is not the greatest civilization in the history of the world. And have a black guy say that is even more hilarious since the ancient Greeks considered black people as sub-humans and i mean so sub-humans that they didn't even want to use them as slaves (and god knows Greeks had zero problem with slavery and owning other people, but they considered black people to not even be good enough to be slaves). And in the ancient greek Mythology there was one and only one god which was Black Erebus, and he was the god of Darkness so basically an evil god, and he was the son of Khaos (his father the God of chaos) and Nyx his mother the goddess of the shadowy goddess of Night. And Erebus siblings were Hypnos the God of sleep and Thanatos the God of death, so not exactly the most beloved gods in the mythology, and only Erebus was Black, not even his evil siblings or parents were, he just turned out black because he was one of the worst gods of all. And if you go to Greece even today you will quickly understand what Greeks still think of black people today. Most black people living in greece today report that they are still treated as sub-humans. And one thing is certain 99% of greek family would never accept a Black person as a son or daughter in law, especially as a son in law. So to have a black guy calling greece the greatest civilization in the world is so tragic. It is like a victim of concentration camps in Poland during world war two, calling Germany the greatest civilization in the world or a survivor from Unit 731 calling Japan the greatest civilization in the world or a survivor from Nagasaki and Hiroshima calling america the greatest civilization in the world, except none of the victims i mentioned would ever do that, but a Black person actually called greece the greatest civilization in the world. I don't know if it is Stockholm syndrome or lack of education. Either way this is rather odd coming from someone supposed to be a scholar !
Patriots? If anyone invades and kills in your home, you just want to survive or take revenge. My greek grandfather´s both fought against turks, but not because they were patriots. Ask any iraky, any afgani, any vietnamese and so on, the list is long. Also Stefanopoulos was how old in 1976? 9? He is born in 1961... Such mistakes, unprofessional. Look it up, it´s around 11 Minutes 30. First they tell the story, then next frame is his family tree starting with him. With his bithday next to his name
