I just got some 18x9.5 +35 on order. Going to test out stock tires 245/40's before I pull the trigger on 255/35's w/ coilovers. Only lowering it a little to lower that gap. Hopefully works good.
@@TylerRepman yessir. I actually decided to get BC BR coilovers w/ upgraded swift springs and also 255/35. Lowered it enough between 1"-1.5" to not have any rubbing on bumps since I live in NYC. and so far it has been great. Nice smaller gap and aggressive look to the car with the slight poke (+35 gives it more of a poke out rather then flush with the body w/ +38). Got Michelin PS4 AS tires so they are great. Leaving my stock premium wheels for emergency/winter set on 245/40.
@@MvPo2 yeah I got some wheels and tires that are the exact same fit as your and I have tien Coilovers so thanks man for replying did you have to roll your fenders or anything?
installing a 18x9.5 +38 wrapped in 245/40 tire and lowering 2 inches on BC extreme lows, we'll see how it goes with rubbing, may have to get 35 sidewall. Do you think these will fit okay, given the 245 thickness? I also plan to camber them by about 3 degrees plus 1-2 degrees of natural camber from lowering. Wheels are work emotion D9R. 14k spring rates as well, opposed to the 5k sprint rates stock. Edit - put them on this weekend and they fit perfect. We measured and its about 4 or 5 degrees negative of camber on the front and back. That is with camber bolts on the front as well as camber plates. Lowered it by about 2.5" and there is minimal wheel gap, with 0 tire gap, its tucked. I am pretty sure the previous owner rolled the front fenders, since they do not poke out at all from the liner and feel uneven and wavy. The rear still feels stock. I have the dampeners set to stiff because I am still feeling out the clearance, but I made it up and down the sidewalk entrance to my garage just find, and made it through speed dips in my neighborhood without rubbing or scraping as well. With a small amount of camber, these tuck perfectly. Definitely hella flush fitment.
This honestly was helpful for me. I have an 07 fozzy on some GTX01’s 17x9 38mm offset And i have the ever slightest poke from them. Unfortunately im on the Max Speeding rods (surprisingly nowhere’s near as bad as I thought they were going to be) And I want to go lower for nice flush fitment but im afraid to do so. I don’t want to roll my fenders at all as it’s a WRB 07 foz XT limited with the cross sport’s aggressive front bumper in a 5spd. I want it as unmolested as I can keep it and rolling fenders is a very big no no for me. So some added camber and going lower should give me what Im looking for
fender vs finder liner???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are gonna rub. Do we need to roll the fender???? DEPENDS!!!!! I guess....on wheels or tires. Not the model year of the WRX/STI. Thank you sir for the Video. I do appreciate your description and help. :)
No problems whatsoever with any aspect of the driving experience. In fact, I feel that everything was improved, especially when cornering. Also, it looks so much better than stock 😎😜
@@wrxseriesgray8487 TY very much. I heard people saying going from the OEM +55 to even a +45 or lower would cause the steering to be too sensitive and that the car will tramline
very odd, I'm really sorry you didn't end up with what you wanted. I was seeking the exact same thing you are, a perfectly flush fitting wheel and I got the exact same set up as you, an 18x9.5 +38 wheel and it sits completely flush, if anything it's even a bit sunken in. I'm really wondering what the difference could be caused by
@Benjamin Schumacher Not sure why your +38 is flush and mine poked🤷🏽♂️ There may be some slight differences between manufacturers and/or models of wheels. You would think +38 would be the same regardless, but who knows. Glad you found something flush though 😎
Just ordered 18x9.5, +38 offset Superspeed wheels with 265/35/18 Falkens FK510. Installing next week. Just wanted to point out to viewers that 265/40s would rub and the 35 is what is needed. I probably won't be able to ever drop the car without rolling rear fenders with this setup.
@@wrxseriesgray8487 it pokes a tiny amount (2mm I'd have to guess) but still looks great and it'll look even better once you lower the car .5 / 1+ inch. You'll never find the perfect offset with the design and color that you want. I think the +38 works very well.
@@Martin944turbo I’m very happy with the +38 offset and think it looks great on our cars, however, I think the majority of the time it won’t be flush for those that are looking for that perfect flush look. They may be some makes/models of wheels in +38 that are flush, but it seems like most will poke just a little. Lowering the car and the changing the camber adds even more variables when trying to get that perfect flush look.
@Manny Palacios I think the +38 would be close. Since it’s only a 3mm difference from the +35 I’m not sure it’s quite enough if you’re going for a true flush look 🤷🏽♂️
the set up in your video is definitely a "poke" but if you car is lowered, it would become a "flush". the reason for that is, as a car is lowered, the wheels are also tucked inward, especially the top of the wheel, because of camber change.
@Danny so, lowering my car would definitely change the camber some and would help create that flush look. My hope is that people will realize that this popular wheel size is not flush or hella flush, but poke (albeit on a stock suspension). Thanks for the comment 💥😎
@@wrxseriesgray8487the comments referring to flush is AFTER they have been lowered. Not when they are on stock suspension. Nobody respectable keeps their Subiess on stock suspension.
They are going off the wheel itself. The reason that you're poking is because you got a pretty wide tire. If you went with a 245 then it would be pretty flush. The problem with using what people call it on Fitment Industries, is people don't know what they're talking about, and they just put whatever they think it is. flush is where the wheels/tire is flush with the fender. Hella flush is typically the top of the wheel/tire is flush with the fender WHEN you have negative camber. If you camber those in a bit, and lower it, you would have a hell flush fitment. Stock ride height with wide tires like that it's a little pokey. ALSO - most people aren't using levels and micrometers when figuring out what fitment they're running. If it looks pretty flush at a glance, then it's flush. Your car looks great with those wheel/tire set up on it though.
@Chace Elliott Thanks for clarifying flush vs hella flush. You’re right about people on fitment industries not knowing what their talking about and just putting down whatever. That was one of the main reasons I made this video. I really wanted to know exactly how far the wheel poked regardless of what tire it was wrapped in and based off of a stock suspension. I really love the look of my setup. Thanks for the comment 😎👊🏼
Thanks bro... This really helped. Finally someone visually explaining these wheel dimensions/stance. This has now helped me decide what dimensions to go with, as well as tire size.
It's still a nice looking wheel. Perfect tire imo. Ppl on forums/FI gallery usually have no idea what they are talking about, so sorry these didn't quite work out in the front. The rear is mostly acceptable, but the front is "poke" fitment despite all those who say "hella flush". This just solidifies my wanting of the 18x9.5 et42 crucial by mach V motorsports or any of the other offers that are et45 (nt03-M, etc). Even in 18x8.5, I wouldn't go lower than an et45. All the et35 wheels do not fit the WRX in the front and laugh when I see ppl choosing that fitment and going with a 245, 235, or smaller tire to eleviaiate rubbing
@SummerBRZ To be honest I was surprised in the difference in poke between the front and the rear. I feel like this is rarely discussed in the forums or other websites and almost never seen in the photos. I do agree that this set up should be considered “poke”, all around imho, but definitely in the front. Luckily with the stock suspension I haven’t had any rubbing. 😎
Thanks for the well made and adult-driven video lol...Somehow I feel like I can trust your word 1000x more than the "Does it rub?" section on fitment industries
@Kradle Thanks man👊🏼😎 I wasn’t happy with the info I was finding when I was looking either. I figured I couldn’t be the only one, so that why I made this video. Glad it helped 💥
You missed the whole point of the "flush hella flush" discussion which is what these cars look like AFTER they have been lowered. Not stock height. @@wrxseriesgray8487
@Viva el Outdoors I have not had any problems with highway driving or spirited backroads driving. In fact, my driving experience has improved due to the wider tires. 😎
@@wrxseriesgray8487 glad to hear and thanks for the quick reply. Video was super informative. I too have found so much conflicting info on these specs. Thanks again.
Thank for making this vid! I will be going for your exact set up w/ my stock suspension! Been stressing about this as well, you definitely helped me out! One thing I’m curious about I really want the enkei rs05rr in the future but they only come with +35 offset. With a +35 do you think I’ll be able to get away with 255/40, with no rubbing issues? Or play it safe and go 255/35. I know for sure 265/35 +35 will rub. Any thoughts would help, thank you!!
@Marc N First things first...I’m not an expert. Based off my video with the +38 offset, a +35 offset will poke out even more (assuming the wheel you want is an 18x9.5 like mine) So, regardless of what tire you wrap it in you are increasing your risk of rubbing with a +35 offset. I don’t know how a 255/35(40) looks and measures on an 18x9.5 wheel to be able to help you choose between the two, but I would probably play it safe if I were you. If you really want that Enkei wheel you may be looking at other modifications 🤷🏽♂️ Good luck 😎👍🏼
Just get yourself some camber bolts for the front and tuck them in a bit. The stock suspension is actually quite brilliant, even on track. I'm actually going back from race coilovers to stock suspension because it's so much more comfortable but still capable.
@Steve Clements Interesting to hear that you are removing your coilovers and going back stock. What coilovers did you have? I’m impressed with the stock suspension, I did add some Whiteline front and rear sway bars that definitely helped plant the car around turns. As for the camber bolts, that’s a good idea, but the look has grown on me and I’m keeping it the way it is. I have no rubbing issues with the stock suspension, so for now I’m leaving it alone.
Thanks for making this Man, I needed to see exactly what +38 offset will look like on my new wrx , I think the tad bit of poke is sexy. stock suspension is underrated. keep up the good work :)
@Tim Bailey The wheel itself sticks out past the fender regardless of the size tire you wrap it in. A 255 tire might make the tread appear more flush, but it doesn’t change the fact that the wheel itself will always be slightly poked. Also, with a 9.5 wide wheel, I’d be worried that the 255 might be a little stretched, which is not a look I personally like. This of course is only a guess as I am no expert on this stuff 🙃
@James G I’ve had my car fully loaded with 5 people (I have 4 kids so it’s not uncommon for my car to be maxed out) and a trip to Costco loaded in the trunk and still no rubbing, but remember I’m on stock suspension so I have more travel distance then a lowered car.
You’re not considering the fact that lowering your car will effect the natural camber, let alone people adding more negative camber to get the wheel to tuck and get it actually flush. Message me and I can show you my setup and fitment.
@WinebytheGlass You are correct that I was not considering the various changes that come into play when lowering a vehicle. I did state in my video that my suspension was stock, which I feel is a good starting point for anyone looking at +38 offset wheels. I would like to see your set up bc I’m going to be lowering my car eventually.
Can i see your set up? Still undecided on the look that i want to go with. From the pictures and videos that i see online a +38 looks poked to me even with coils. Thanks
@braden I agree that I need to lower my car! When I do I’ll definitely have to roll my fenders. However, that wasn’t quite the purpose of this video. Thanks for the tip about the camber though.
