Found this vid and subscribed because of it. B was the clear winner, A sounded like it had a blanket over it. Anyone who can't hear that needs new monitors, new headphones or new ears! Great playing and a really pretty song with the gal singer who is terrific.
Really, the only thing worth pointing out would be that young lady's delightful voice. The difference between the desks was so minimal as to be irrelevant.
I'd love to see how you managed the Solo/Mute bussing, and any other bussing that you added to the original channels. Very impressive work; I remember seeing this console for sale and wondering how someone would go about rebuilding it.
not sure cause i use PT, but I believe the line on the meter thats hovering around -25db is the RMS level, if you match your output and bypass to that line you should have a legit comparison
This may sound like a silly question but I am putting together my second MU524. I know they link for stereo operation but I can’t find literature on how to set that up. Can you explain to me how to operate them in stereo?
You press in stereo link on the back of your 500 rack for the two channels you are using for the comps (keep this on even when using not in stereo mode for any stereo compressor when you first install them). Then you switch both comps to stereo link mode on the front. Then you match the settings on both comps (or you can match the settings first and then turn on stereo linking). It's as easy as that.
I think I slightly preferred pre 2. I felt like it had a bit more depth to it, which to my ear means that the low mids were clearer and better defined. Listening without focusing on the nuances though, the differences are fairly negligable
so glad 2 was the analogue. to me it sounded so much more open and pleasing. usually with these shootouts I don't really hear any difference but to me this one was pretty clear. congrats mate!
@@chrisvanloo1007 Tube comps are never going to match perfectly. It's an inherent design quirk with electronics like tubes (as they have a +/- range (useually of about 10%) within which they will operate, rather than a fixed value that they will certainly be), it's not something broken that they could fix. The only way to get them to be closer is to buy stereo matched tubes, or get lucky with the tubes you get.
@@DaftyBoi412 i haven't built mine yet but at 5:20 you can clearly see him adjust the amount of compression or at least the amount shown on the meter.. maybe you can get them closer that way?
@@chrisvanloo1007 They are fully calibrated, it's just the tubes compression curve on mine is a bit out, it's expected with unmatched tubes. Mine match at the calibration point, but drift either side, and 3db differance max is nothing really compared to how bad it can get. Some tube driven opto comps go out by 5-10db when you really start digging in if the opto cells aren' t colsely matched... And that's just gain reduction, forget about the attack and release curves! ... Don't forget these types of compressors arn't precision tools, use aVCA comp or something for that, these are for gentle volume riding and colouring the sound. It's the same with pots, no two pots will be identicle, and most are only within 20% of each other! If you get lucky they will track ok, but get two pots at either end of their range and you'll have quite noticeable descrepencies between channels. Ofc you can adjust for it by turning the pot it's self, it just means you won't have matching settings on your left and right unit to get the same resistance values. (this isn't just this comp, it's all analouge gear!). It's why highly acurate stereo units are SOO expensive (like 3-5k minimum useually), as to get 5% or better you start to need stepped switches instead of pots, and then you're in the 1% range - but go look up the price of elmer or greyhill stepped switches xD, even 5% pots will cost and arm and a leg. 😉
@@DaftyBoi412 i wanted to link two of these comps and use them in my mastering chain as a stereo compressor limiter... now i'm not so sure anymore. sigh
The reason you had to reduce the output of your daw is most likely because of a descrepency between the A/D amd D/A stage of your interface. I also have to cut the return 5.5-6 db of my steinberg interface because it outputs inbetween +4dbu and -10dbv and you can only select +4dbu or - 10dbv for the input. Try it with a loop wire going directly from your outputto your input and you should see even then it is still around 6db louder. It's not the compressor doing it, at least my 2 don't have this behaviour and it comes from my interface.
I was really think that I was like the Clarett.... but I sopos I am the old fashion guy,... number 2 was that I was like.... but totally understandable.... not really un expected...
Preamp 1 sounds better to me. smoother with a nice presence. Preamp 2 also sounds great but when the high frequencies get loud you can hear them getting little over whelming, some kind of build up in the high mids going on. Maybe just a slight EQ might favour the preamp 2 though. both sound great. Clarett preamps are pretty top end especially for the money.
Servus, ich plane gerade mir die perfekte Konsole zu bauen daher bin ich auf dein Video gestoßen da es meinem Projekt am nächsten kommt. Ich will eine Art “hybrid” console. Analoge pre Amps, analoge eqs (500 Series) und unter fader von einem daw Control unit z.b icon qcon. Wie hast du die einzelnen 500 Series Teile einzeln auf die fader bzw. Pre map weiter geleitet? Ich seh die ganze Zeit nur die 500 Series racks wo alles in einer Schleife zusammen läuft. Hast du da ein rack? Oder alles selber gebastelt? Lg würd mich auf deine Hilfe freuen! ✌️😌
Really impressive man.Over the years I've seen these consoles and wondered why they were much cheaper than other desks. It sounds fantastic. Wish I had your skills.
1 is like cutted off over 16Khz, probably the vintage one, maybe a little more lowend ? or at least give the impression, maybe higher THD ? Prefere the transparency of the 2nd one for a female voice + Gtr, but like the "warm sound" of the 1rst one for a full band. IMO EDIT after reveal : my ears are fucked
Many reviews says "preonus 96 sound the same as Scarlett" Many other reviews say "they cant hear dufference between Scarlett and clarett " And you say "clarett and vintage desk have ni différence ". So in conclusion"we cant hear dufference between presonus 96 and vintege desk"
Vintage Desk has got that mojo... Focusrite is super clean though, it makes her voice "shine"... Man that's a tough one... maybe both at the same time, LOL
Great work! Im glad to see an old console come back to life. A vido on your In/Out and Meter driver PCB design would be very helpful for my console restoration. Take care!
