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VECTr - Variably Expanding Chain Transmission
VECTr - Variably Expanding Chain Transmission
VECTr - Variably Expanding Chain Transmission
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The innovative, simple, reliable, component compatible gearing system for bicycles. Eliminates chain drops, chain wear and chain stretch, while increasing the gear options over crank mounted chain rings.

US Patent Number 10,167,055 was issued for VECTr on January 1, 2019.

Change gears without changing chain line.

For more information, visit

vectr-gear.com/
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@quentinradsma7616
@quentinradsma7616 3 месяца назад
Not sure if it will work for MTB too much shaking and bumps
@nate8930
@nate8930 3 месяца назад
Dammit, I literally drew this exact design up myself too thinking it would work! someone beat me too it.
@neiloconnor9349
@neiloconnor9349 4 месяца назад
Dude -- it's pentagonal. Wouldn't a hexagonal gear be easier to fabricate? I hereby patent this idea. Also, allen head bolts AND philips head screws? Get your shit together.
@gregavolk
@gregavolk 7 месяцев назад
The internet is incredible. While nagging over my nexus hub gearbox that doesn't coast realy well, I was thinking about how a CVT could be applied to a chain-driven system. And of course, some dude made it already. Great stuff! Any ideas on how to reduce the gaps/jumping chain?
@namelesske
@namelesske Год назад
😂
@mrnorthz9373
@mrnorthz9373 Год назад
man i was thinking about designing something like this for a few weeks, i thought about everything, a locking mechanism for the expanding teeth, a corresponding rear sprocket, the fact that they cant expand at the same time. welp someone made it
@benjaminmartinez8199
@benjaminmartinez8199 11 месяцев назад
Same thing lol 😂😂
@lmcatech
@lmcatech Год назад
Texas Childrens wants their PDU back. LOL
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
Are they missing one? It's been a long time. I forget.🙂Hope you're well. You can email from my channel page.
@iuriiilin6567
@iuriiilin6567 Год назад
This is better ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qprII2Y-dGA.html
@endtimeslips4660
@endtimeslips4660 Год назад
good idea. but i think this will have vibration issue in high speed.
@TNStrikeman
@TNStrikeman Год назад
Love the mechanical nature of this design! I have in fact been thinking of a design similar to this but it uses small jokey wheels (in replacement of the teeth segments) that have freewheel ratchets on them. My design has infinite gear ratios aswell. Best of luck!
@user-ke8of7xl9v
@user-ke8of7xl9v 2 года назад
Genius 👀🧠✨
@michealjackson8269
@michealjackson8269 2 года назад
If you spiral the star shape and the grooves you’ll get a smoother gear
@lincoln1080
@lincoln1080 2 года назад
I would like a working model what's the price
@scythe_fresco
@scythe_fresco 2 года назад
how much force could these handle? Theoretically could this be built to handle high loads?
@williamguerra1427
@williamguerra1427 2 года назад
No demontrasion in a other angle or in other side what exsacli how it gose
@charlespalmer157
@charlespalmer157 2 года назад
Any idea what overall efficiency might be? Many of the friction drive bicycle transmissions have low overall efficiency. A common planetary gear set can achieve up to 97% efficiency.
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics 2 года назад
Darnit. I was thinking about making something like this today and it’s already been done. Back to the drawing board for me.
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 2 года назад
I'm sorry your dream was thwarted. Usually people tell me it was already invented 100 years ago. This particular design was not, of course. You can have the consolation of being in good creative company. Great minds think alike, and all that. Thanks for your interest and comment.
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics 2 года назад
@@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 Thank you for your reply. ☺️
@jorgeih
@jorgeih 2 года назад
this is pretty much the same concept of the HettlageVariator : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eWXxiXvfBjg.html
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 2 года назад
Similar but not the same. Mine is lighter and simpler, uses a chain, not a belt and so is compatible with standard frames and cranks.
@techvibeshd5379
@techvibeshd5379 3 года назад
Hey! This is great product. I was wondering, Can I use this video in the compilation I'm making. Of course you will get fully credited in the description and the comment section. Thanks
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 3 года назад
Hi. Thanks for asking. Yes, you can use it as long as you provide proper attribution to vectr-gear.com . Also, please let me know when your video is uploaded and live. VECTr has appeared in other invention/bike product compilation videos, but their creators didn't let me know beforehand. So if you could, that would be great.
@petersvancarek
@petersvancarek 3 года назад
not much different to this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yweIWBC9-OA.html and I saw something much, much older. None of these are used.
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 2 года назад
VECTr is not very similar at all. The chain-engaging gear segments on VECTr change radial position one at a time, not simultaneously as in the other device. There are very many other differences.
@bobkeller8383
@bobkeller8383 3 года назад
I like the concept. Looks a little clunky and very noisy. Get that sorted out and I think you'll have something
@ohmdur9224
@ohmdur9224 3 года назад
Iam an inventor and it appears, to generate sales, you need more spokes on the sprocket retainer with more area for teeth for smoother operation. Smaller 10 or more spoke retainer would make this happen.
@enzochoi923
@enzochoi923 3 года назад
nice
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 3 года назад
Thanks
@abdullahkardas8887
@abdullahkardas8887 4 года назад
not reliable also there is more sound
@Alan_Hans__
@Alan_Hans__ 4 года назад
Looks like a very similar process to Veridrive from about 5 years earlier. Bit better video as a potato cam appears to have been used for the Veridrive ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RQHvjktwc0k.html
@kzinty
@kzinty 4 года назад
The pulsations as the chain rises and falls would make it extremely uncomfortable to use and really impact the driveline efficiency, especially on a suspension bike.
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 4 года назад
The variations are more pronounced on the 4-segment version, but on the current 5-segment version it is not very noticeable on the most expanded setting - not noticeable at all at lower gear settings. Check out the videos from April and September 2019.
@Creeperboy099
@Creeperboy099 4 года назад
I think that with these systems, it would be best if you had a chain tensioner that adjusts with the ratios
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 4 года назад
VECTr works with bikes with rear cassettes and tensioner/derailleur. You can see that in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-07FzZ3WcknU.html
@dewexdewex
@dewexdewex 4 года назад
This looks similar to the Hettlage transmission. I think it makes more sense to implement it as you have on a front drive. I have some questions, though. What is the difference in weight of your system compared to a conventional three ring front sprocket and shifter set up? How would your solution compare on cost to a conventional system assuming it was produced on similar scales? What is the component count of your system and how does this compare to a conventional system? What is the effect of vibration on the system after prolonged use compared to conventional systems?
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 4 года назад
VECTr is different from the Hettlage drive in that VECTr can easily replace the crank mounted chain rings, whereas Hettlage requires a nonstandard frame to accommodate the belt drive. I have more detailed specs on the vectr-gear.com website, but to your questions: VECTr weighs about 550 grams compared to 475 for the three ring crankset it replaces and 1000 to 2000 grams for the other internal hubs/gearboxes available. VECTr should cost between $150 - $200 depending on the production run compared to the $200 to $2000 for other transmissions. As far as component count, if I understand you correctly, VECTr's controller is considerably simpler than a derailleur since VECTr has only about 8 parts. The crank mounted gearing for VECTr consists of about 20 parts, easily assembled. I haven't done extensive road testing, so I can't speak to prolonged use, but it has held up to the road testing I have done. You can find a brief video of a road test on my channel page.
@user-dr5wd4ei5e
@user-dr5wd4ei5e 4 года назад
nice
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 4 года назад
Thanks! Check out the other videos of the latest prototype and road test. Stay tuned for more videos of further advances.
@user-dr5wd4ei5e
@user-dr5wd4ei5e 4 года назад
​ Where the link is in motion. I can’t find@@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 4 года назад
Here is the latest model being tested in the lab: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9Q8RavDigzo.html Here it is tested on the road: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5jBXFftKy6U.html
@Guesswhokk
@Guesswhokk 4 года назад
You still need a derailleur system to account for the chain slack as it contracts. Where is it? As I doubt it unlikely to use the same CVT on the back wheel to account for this chain slack.
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 4 года назад
You are correct; VECtr still needs a tensioner. On the models so far, I use the rear derailleur and tensioner already in place. The rear cassette and derailleur are unaffected by replacing the chainrings on the crank with VECTr. Check out this short video of the compatibility of VECTr with a rear cassette: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-07FzZ3WcknU.html Also, in the road test video I change gears on the rear cassette before testing VECTr, but you don't see the tensioner there either.
@lights80088
@lights80088 4 года назад
Chain jumper for sure. A fragile and flawed design (much vibration)
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 4 года назад
With the newer 5 bolt version, not at all. Check it out testing in the lab: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9Q8RavDigzo.html Here it is tested on the road: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5jBXFftKy6U.html
@millenitrato
@millenitrato 5 лет назад
I want one!
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 5 лет назад
Thanks. Please share with your friends, fellow riders, component manufactures, etc. A crowd funding campaign may be starting soon. Check back for details, or better yet, subscribe to keep updated.
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 5 лет назад
Check out the latest prototype: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9Q8RavDigzo.html
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 5 лет назад
Check out the latest prototype: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9Q8RavDigzo.html
@user-dr5wd4ei5e
@user-dr5wd4ei5e 5 лет назад
very interesting
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 5 лет назад
Thank you. Check out the latest prototype: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9Q8RavDigzo.html
@youssefskitiwi9159
@youssefskitiwi9159 5 лет назад
tanks you
@vignan4553
@vignan4553 5 лет назад
Can you explain me how the pulley's dia changed. Please.
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 5 лет назад
There is a locking mechanism on each gear segment which is released, and the segments are moved to new radial positions, by their contact with a controller while being moved by the cranks' rotation.
@vignan4553
@vignan4553 5 лет назад
@@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 can you please explain me what type of controller is used for shifting the radial positions along the constraints?
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 5 лет назад
@@vignan4553 The controller consists of two curved plates which are slid fore and aft by a cable attached to a friction shifter mounted on the handle bar. An electric actuator controlled by wired or wireless switch could also be used.
@vignan4553
@vignan4553 5 лет назад
@@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 ohhhkkk.. Got it...
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 5 лет назад
Check out the new 5-bolt working model here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XjE3xWhrzEo.html
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 5 лет назад
Check out the new 5-bolt working model here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XjE3xWhrzEo.html
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 5 лет назад
Check out the new 5-bolt working model here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XjE3xWhrzEo.html
@GarretKrampe
@GarretKrampe 6 лет назад
yeah I invented what was similar to the Cambiogear in 2006 but got no traction or interest. Camboi made it and sold it and abandoned it .
@Gunluvver2
@Gunluvver2 6 лет назад
I was issued a patent on a similar idea in 1993(?) 5,492,506. My design had some of the same issues you mention in your design. I never got adequate financing and after spending thousands of dollars in fees etc. I let the patent expire. Good ideas are only a small part of the invention process IMHO, Better luck to you with your idea.
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118
@vectr-variablyexpandingcha118 6 лет назад
Thanks for the encouragement. I agree, ideas are relatively easy (though not effortless). The devil is in the details and the implementation -- and then one has no control over market forces.
@nikolajshaginov4279
@nikolajshaginov4279 6 лет назад
Good lack
@MasterMindmars
@MasterMindmars 6 лет назад
Very well
@vlupis1
@vlupis1 6 лет назад
Excell cambiogear
@jeffdragonball6050
@jeffdragonball6050 7 лет назад
When it operates, the gear ratio is continuously changing back and forth. That makes it very uncomfortable to ride on.
@alexriddles492
@alexriddles492 7 лет назад
JEFF DragonBall I noticed that also. It made me think of a specialized hard rock I had years ago. That bike had a "biopace" chain ring. If this were properly designed that pulsing might be an advantage.
@Samuel_Davillo
@Samuel_Davillo 7 лет назад
Better to use planetary gear + tension controll system automatic transmission tho only feet will decide what force and torque do you want
@poshpanda469
@poshpanda469 7 лет назад
So, it's not tested on a real bike??
@ragunathan8901
@ragunathan8901 7 лет назад
you took my BE final year project
@peteypops
@peteypops 7 лет назад
A great explanation...no panning shots or wasted videa...wish you luck. Perhaps add a good chain tensioner somewhere?