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....in truth. To much power in a fac at 35 yards....a sub 12 is much better.....but what do you fac shoot that needs that power.....lrf 22 for foxes ,rabbits at say...60 yards,foxes at a hundred and over.....for all the trouble you have to go through,and in this day and age,the police taking guns for stupid reasons.....get a sub 12....less expensive(ammo wise) not as many headaches....and with a bit of fieldcraft getting close to the bunnies....just really cant see the point of a fac air rifle.....you may now commence the arguments lol
I've been shot with 12 ft lb air rifle - it was uncomfortable to say the least but it was only one projectile to remove compared to a shotgun. Never mind being shot with turkey loads or buckshot....
It's amazing how much air gun tech has come since this video was made . With my sub12 .22 at 35 yards ill get every pellet almost in the same hole (prob 10mm group) at 55 yards ill get 25mm groups
So for rabbits the ballistic tip wins, excessive penetration is not wanted for small critters, better for the fox providing its accurate at 100m, ive only ever used ballistic tip 17gr and they can shoot 5p size groups at 100. Love the 22 for how quiet it is thiugh. Just a shame how quick it drops.
I don't know why but I find very satisfying watching this video, so every now and then I come here to watch it again. It explains very well the feeling of wanting more from your air rifle and then being a little disappointed after getting an fac air rifle. But in the end I'm happy with both non FAC air rifles and fac ones. And also with firearms. Thank you for posting the video
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After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel ru-vid.comUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!
I had a .22 rim fire and even with the weaker sub sonic you are looking at 90 ft/lb but then safety and backstop when in the field is a big consideration
I can only imagine the amount of injured, but alive and suffering animals shot by prats with air rifles. The kill zone on some of these small animals / birds is tiny and these tw@ts demonstrate time and time again these guns are not accurate enough in perfect conditions on a RU-vid video, yet expect people to believe they are a perfect shot at 35 yards in the wind, rain and low light. Hunting animals for sport in this day and age is only for sad g!ts who can't get laid. And the fact that they try and justify it by claiming they eat what they kill is laughable. To§§ers
I saw the thumbnail. I had a suspicion you’d be a British man named Nigel and transmit significant knowledge efficiently with a courteous and concise delivery. I was not disappointed.
Even sub 12 ft/lb rifles can cause erratic scattered groupings, it all depends of the type of pellet used on each and every individual rifle. On one of my rifles at tested 30 different brands and weights of pellet of which only 5 out of the 30 had reasonable groupings and one had consistent groupings at all ranges. Higher powered rifles also tend to prefer slugs which are becoming more common these days.
Velocity is roughly equal to trajectory. If you have two different weight projectiles that are roughly the same velocity they will have roughly the same trajectory. The heavier projectile will have more energy/momentum upon impact. Minute factors that likely wouldnt majorly effect air rifles at nominal ranges: -surface area that creates drag ultimately lowering the velocity. -If you control for surface area then a heavier weight adds inertia which helps prevent the projectile from being pushed by the wind. You could get into drag coefficients to better compare the capabilities of different projectiles which always looks great on paper- but alot of times the most ballistically viable projectiles end up not being your guns favorite ammo and you trade off some accuracy. The best trajectory at a set velocity limit is the longest, thinnest (i.e best aerodynamix profile) and heaviest. This is best demonstrated in the 6.5cm vs .308win debate imho. At a set energy level it gets much trickier as you are now balancing trajectory with terminal effect and performance can be graded on a curve depnding on what factors you need the most like terminal effect vs trajectory i.e hollow nosed projectiles vs rounded nosed. In the small game world however... accuracy is king. A perfect shot at 12ftlb is just as lethal as a perfect shot at 36ftlb. If all thing are equal accuracy wise then id say 36ftlb would net more shot opportunities due to body shots being more viable... that being said- if you could get an extremely heavy .177 at 36ftlbs optimised for trajectory that would likely be the best Because effective range is roughly equal to hunting opportunity. Or you could be like me and just shoot em with a stick and skip all the math and equipment...
If you were to shoot from the car at night in my country, you would immediately lose your hunting license. If you even have one. I suspect that you have relatively little respect for living beings and that you shoot everything that comes before the gun. Poor! A real hunter also gives the game a chance!
"Taking a step up to 30 ftps" meaning you had to apply for an FAC license which is not as easy as you make out. You must have lots of land or maybe Armed forces? Anyway, if you can share an easier (Legal) way of obtaining a FAC or 30FPS air rifle that would be great. Nice review 👍🏿
Got a lot of people at my shooting club with a fac license and they aren't that well off with lots of land. I guess them being an active member of a shooting club helps, being a hunter etc can help also. Not saying I know a lot about it anything, just saying it's possible without the examples you have provided.