A fantastic video! I think it’s worth considering that the ultimate finale of this tech is probably where there are no artists, human or otherwise, and instead you are just fed new content generated to your mood either through your own prompts of how you’re feeling and/or algorithmically based on reactions. Imagine Spotify’s “DJ” on steroids - on steroids.
RateYourMusic and its consequences on mankind, a friend was into that stupid rating site and, while it's both fun and frustrating to rate things, it's better to just orbit on your own playlists and scenes (mostly scene because I'm into emo and hardcore)
Its really a shame that 'The perfect girl' is seen as an alpha male song because it was used in a shitpost. The lyrics don't even go along with the ideas alphas preach about. It goes for the opposite
Could not care any less about the topic, but just came to say that Lilypichu's Dreamy Night is one of the best songs ever. Of course, a needle in a haystack does not count for much, but that song is certainly an exception to the rule. I guess because she was always musically inclined, it does not count as much.
The only music I see AI fully replacing would be generic pop songs. There's so much creative, surreal and experimental underground music that AI can never generate.
i remain firm in my opinion that generative ai will get lmaod by copyright law, the same big corpos that spent billions lobbying so they could own copyrights forever are about to learn that even that is a double edged sword
There is no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of songwriting jobs will be replaced with Ai. Virtually everything commercial short of live performance will be done by Ai. Countless pop singers ( and other genres too ) already use a team of writers or mostly co-write with producers, and they still draw huge audiences regardless. I think the only artists that can survive are those whose music is so deeply intertwined with the creative process and how the music relates to their own experiences, that from the listening point of view there is no point to the music without it being human written, not even for entertainment's sake. Like not your average singer songwriter, something somehow so tied to the writer's direct connection to the human condition that you have more to lose using Ai songwriting than to gain from it. I don't think any artist today exists like that. Don't get me wrong, at this point in time, where Ai is still inferior to the best songwriters, literally every artist can only create based off their human experience, but eventually you will be able to quickly and effortlessly generate a completed track of new music far better than the vast vast vast majority of songwriters with almost no human involvement. In that world, where you can create music for little to no cost in 30 seconds plus the time it takes to write a sentence long prompt, I can't imagine any artist could make something most listeners would rather listen to, giving up the quality, speed, variety, and quantity of equivocal Ai counterparts. If you go to a museum to see some historical artifact or something, what would happen if that artifact or whatever was instantly replaced with an identical copy, with absolutely no difference down to the molecule, and nobody could tell, the same exact object, expect this copy was made out of thin air. What would happen? Would everyone stopping seeing that thing at the museum? No. Now don't get me wrong, if everybody knew this was a fake, even if technically and materialistically identical, everyone would rather see the real one, but that's not the case with music. We've already seen artists that have almost no role in the writing of their songs, and that don't make that clear to the listener, in fact, many of the most popular artists today fit that description, or at least did at one point in their career. There will always be people who refuse to voluntarily listen to Ai music, but when the difference in the end product is identical, this portion of the population will not somehow get songwriters their jobs back. Some listeners will care enough to never listen to Ai music, but 99% of employers of songwriters do not and never will care about the process of the product. If you can produce something for the same quality or better almost instantly, with no training, basically for free, why would you ever want to hire a songwriter to take days weeks or months to probably make a worse resulting product? Sure you can argue this isn't "Creative", but we barely understand what creativity is beyond merely creating something. How can something that is able to create something, not be creative, why not? What processes are necessary to be deemed as creativity? What objective evidence do you have to justify those conclusions? Even if you spend a lifetime trying to answer this question, and even if you do so perfectly, that doesn't somehow make paying a songwriter a justified business decision because of "Creativity".
Not even slightly close. The fact that there is a 40 minute video about it shows that there are people who actually think there's a chance. AI garbage will never go anywhere other than another attempt at getting rich quick.
I just don't know what to say, we're so close to living in an AI dystopia. You know, this is the type of thing my relatives would tell me isn't a big deal, but it is. I'm so tired of being told I'm overreacting to this situation and that AI is over-all good for humanity. It's not, at least not in the way it is being used. AI is taking away not only jobs and art, but humanism. This is the type of stuff that would be right at home in a dystopian post-apocalyptic movie. I genuinely don't know what to do to help, I'm just some lazy kid who stumbled upon this video. The harsh reality is people will accept anything that makes life more convenient for them. The general public will stand idly by while AI takes over all mediums. People just don't care, and that's a real shame. I really wish I had away to word this comment better, but I feel it's my responsibility to add something to this conversation, this is a real problem that most people don't seem to care about
At least you care, that's the starting point for all change. I just realized something too: if the AI takeover is driven by corporate greed, then the punk movement will still be relevant in the future. Why? Because there's no great commercial incentive for works of art that are ugly, annoying or radical. Even when AI is able to replicate that kind of music, we'll still be able to tell that a human made it or at the very least wrote the prompt. It may not be much, but that thought actually made me weirdly emotional just a moment ago. I was watching this goofy ass stream called Flex Fest where they basically parody Soundcloud rappers. Whatever you think it sounds like, it's worse. Yet I couldn't help but feeling a strange sense of relief in knowing every "song" had a human origin. Not everything was trash either, suddenly I found myself bobbing my head to an unexpected banger lol. I guess it became clear to me how much I appreciate the humanity of it all, like we never changed a bit since those early humans were clowning around with silly voices or fart jokes. Seems like I'm not alone, that's all I can ask for.
23:16 CODE MISTAKE is actually pretty good imo, when it gets to BMTH (bring me the horizon) ‘s part. The rest of the song is mid personally. But BMTH just kinda saved it for me at least
“Bromance” didn’t age poorly. Have you even listened to it? Maybe to the sensitive zoomers it hasn’t aged well. But stop stating subjective opinions as if they are facts.
As a musician I am concerned with the amount of interest AI companies have in the music space. Surely us humans can focus on artistic ventures while AI could be used to complete menial tasks and labour?? I know this is opening a whole can of beans about job opportunities and such but I think the sentiment remains that humans would be better off without this sort of lazy AI use in creative spaces.
great video, i adore that conclusion, i just have a few things i'd like to add - warning/apology: i have a lot of thoughts and i cannot lay them out neatly or concisely at all so this is very yappy and possibly repetitive 😭 popular music has been getting gradually more algorithmic and soul-less in the social media/streaming age. artists involved in the industry are under a lot of pressure to conform or starve - which ftr was a pre-existing issue that's only been exacarbated recently. i'm on a music course at a college of the arts rn and it is BLEAK how much of the content we're taught is focused on making money or being successful, even the few songwriting lessons we have done have been entirely removed from emotion and authenticity. everything that i have learned about the music industry tells me that there is no way music made with the soul is going to get you popular - i have been directly told that if i want to make that kind of music i need to either be a nepo baby or otherwise already be famous. so of course AI music isn't going to be controversial in pop music, a good chunk of that is already music made without any goal or creative drive but to be popular - to make money. BUT (and idk if it's just me) the music that's been getting extremely popular has been a lot more human.. chappell roan is exploding, as she should, billie eilish, beyoncé, *mitski*, taylor swift (side note: i don't know that much about most of the music on the charts, take what i say about what's popular with a tub of salt). i think the majority of people genuinely enjoy music that is enfused with personhood. the essence of humanity, the soul, creativity is experience - music we've experienced gets filtered through the same lens as everything that is created from and continually shaped by every tiny thing that has ever and will ever happen in our lives. it's all processed in the brain which is unknowably complex and definitely not something that any machine learning algorithm or any computer at all could replicate. humans can make art because we are not made to do so, a child's scribbles have more artistic merit than any shite collaged by a logical circuit from a billion stolen dreams. to actually make a point: even in this shithole industry, more people than ever make music with emotion. it doesn't matter if every spot in every chart is flooded with generated garbage, humans will create. for thousands upon thousands of years we have, and we've done it with sound, and those sounds met the ears of other humans and evoked the emotions we put into making them and inspired them to make their own sounds. art will only die when we are all dead.
This is one of the only advances in technology that I absolutely DESPISE. AI art, music, or any other creative space should be banned completely. Music is a purely human expression, and I will never support that being taken away from us.
imo it's not AI that should be fought, but corporations using it because that's what is inhumane a good example of AI art that doesn't detract from human art but instead extends it is BBL Drizzy
The craftsmen also despised the looming machines) Would you give up on ten times cheaper clothes produced in factories because it's a "soulless" product?
@@AramisUA No, you wouldn't of course. Clothing doesn't need to have soul in order to function as clothing, which makes it totally incomparable to the music situation. Sucks to suck if you're a seamstress; your usefulness was in your hands doing a menial task, and that menial task has now been delegated to machines. But we expect something much more than just menial labor from musicians. We expect creativity and expression. So, just because it makes no sense to turn down clothes for being "soulless," that doesn't mean it doesn't make sense to turn down music for being soulless. Two different beasts.
@@Joe_Yacketori Fine, I agree. But still, I don't think it's literally POSSIBLE to BAN the use of music AIs. Because when you ban something, you lose the ability to regulate it - like it happened with alcohol in prohibition. Plus, the "piracy" with books, movies and videogames are alive and "blooming" for past 20 years despite being outlawed basically everywhere. Finally, I don't know about the music, but I genuenly believe that in painting AI will NEVER become as good as humans, because AI can't comprehend the scopes of our imagination. Every time, when it will make a picture, something will be "off" or "incomplete", which will either urge people to learn to paint to make it right or make them pay to the actual ertists to "correct" the piece.
