Star Wars Fandom is one of, if not, the worst fandom i’ve ever joined in my entire life, i couldn’t even enjoy any star wars content especially if it’s Star Wars Episode 7-9, plus the fans who are hating the sequel trilogy are so annoying asf that they literally act like acknowledging something from the sequel trilogy is a sin, i understand the hate of sequel trilogy but, these fans acting like these are bunch of crybabies, don’t get me started to the fans who bullied the actors and some shit they did in the past
If you have to search for things to enjoy the show is crap, bc if its good there is no need to search for the good , it is just apparent, the storytelling in the Disney writers room is nothing but rank incompetence
Imo, the red screen when Baker is close to dying isn't a health regeneration system but more of the player being suppressed (unless you get burned by fire). I remember when I was 8, Baker's helmet got shot off and I was instanly in a critical state meaning I need to get tf down. Like Uncharted with Nate's luck ending on one bullet (grey screen), Baker's luck would end from one shot. Examples of said luck is when the bridge got destroyed and a beam almost impales Baker, surviving a tank shot that killed Leggett, surviving the mortar strike giving him the scar and the least amount of damage out of everyone in the cafe and lastly when the glass roof of the hospital caught a bomb just before hitting him. It's the same with 3rd squad, you'll be notified that they're under fire/suppressed and if one bullet hits them, they're down until the next checkpoint. This is just how I think the red screen works, you don't have to agree since this is just a subjective take on it.
"ANDOR" certainly had its highlights. I admired the excellent performances from a cast led by the very talented Diego Luna. I thought showrunner Tony Gilroy's portrayal of a corrupt and violent Galactic Empire seemed pretty spot on. In fact, Gilroy's portrayal of the galaxy at this point in the timeline pretty much matched his, Chris Weitz and director Gareth Edwards' portrayal of the galaxy in "ROGUE ONE". "ANDOR" also featured issues that I either found questionable or simply did not work for me. The season's narrative structure of a group of three (or four) episodes per arc barely worked for me. I say barely, because the arcs still managed to form one season-long arc. But it did so in a way that some of the episodes felt like mere padding. I found the season finale, "Rix Road" a bit anti-climatic. Despite the big speech and the riot, Cassian Andor had played no role in these events. He spent most of the episode attempting to free his friend from Imperial forces in a sequence that featured very little action. "Rix Road" had paused its narrative to convey Maarva Andor's pre-recorded speech against the Empire. But this was not the first time something like this happened. Two or three times, the series paused the story in order for a character to give this great speech or monologue on the evils of fascism and tyranny. This penchant of pausing the narrative for a political speech really got on my nerves. George Lucas managed to achieve the same with two lines spoken in two separate movies - Leia in "A New Hope" and Padme in "Revenge of the Sith". Following Cassian's escape from Ferrix in Episode 3, Syril Karn spent the next nine episodes developing two obsessions - finding and capturing Cassian and developing a romantic (if you want to call it that) fixation for ISB Agent Dedra Meero, while he continuously engaged in verbal combat with his domineering mother. After wasting away for eight episode, Karn learned about Maarva Andor's death and decided to travel to Ferrix to snatch Cassian. Only . . . he never encountered his prey. Not once. Instead, he ended up saving Agent Meero from angry rioters. Tony Gilroy had provided an in-depth look into Mon Mothma's private life and her efforts to keep her role as one of the Rebels' leaders a secret. To my surprise, Senator Mothma's arc came dangerously close to dominating this series . . . in which Cassian is supposed to serve as the main protagonist. The worst part - at least for me - was that her arc had no real impact on Cassian’s arc. Or had served as any kind of catalyst to Cassian’s arc during this first season. I feel that Gilroy, Lucasfilm and many critics and fans had forgotten the name of this series, which is "ANDOR"; not "THE REBEL ALLIANCE", "REBELS II" or "MOTHMA".
I have the same feelings as you. I understand why people didn’t like the last Jedi but I think the bigger issue was how poorly the 3 movies flowed together. I too enjoyed Ahsoka. BoBF was subpar. Acolyte wasn’t the best either but it wasn’t as bad as everyone made it out to be… better than something like She Hulk in my opinion.
It’s rare to find fans like you and I that can try to enjoy some things in the franchise. We may not like everything, but there is some stuff we enjoy. At least we try to give it a chance. I just wish they were more consistent with making good content.
That's the problem with some the fanbase nowadays. For some it all about the hate. That IS the attraction for them. Some people get their kicks by being a contrarian on the thing that's popular at a certain point in time.
Some people just love to hate on this franchise 24/7 and it’s sad to see. Yes, Disney is failing big time with this franchise, but picking on it constantly doesn’t help. A lot of content creators thrive on negativity and again, it’s just so sad to see.
I don't understand 'why did people raise their standards too high?' We just don't want to see unrealistic, not-believable, illogical stupid scenes and decisions. I LOVE Ahsoka series, one of my favourites, but it sure had quite a few of those. And criticism is valid. Is it really that frustrating to ask writers to write things better, use script doctors and use common sense and logic?
It's Star Wars. It's a fantasy series that has no logic in reality. It doesn't obey the laws of physics or space and time. If you're okay with the prequels then you have nothing to complain about when it comes to writing.
I get what you’re saying. Personally, I don’t think Ahsoka had many issues. They wrote themselves into a corner a few times at the end, but overall I think it was a good show. Disney needs to get writers that care and actually know about the brand. There’s too many people working on this franchise that have no clue about the lore and care more about turning Star Wars into something they want it to be. The foundation of the franchise should be considered sacred, but sadly it isn’t.
@@Analyze_This54 Tony Gilroy, who created Andor and Rogue One, has openly admitted he's not a Star Wars fan. Yet Andor and Rogue One are considered some of Disney's best work. Star Wars has always had people coming in and interpreting the material in different ways. Some of it works, and some of it doesn't. This has been the case throughout the entire history of Star Wars. There seems to be this unrealistic expectation by parts of the fandom that everything must be written to cater to their whims and that every story has to be something worthy of an Emmy or Oscar. If they don't like something, that's fine, but if that discourse descends into vitriol and hate, then they've made it more than just disliking something. There is so much content out there to choose from. If you don't like the Disney stuff, then there's Legends or the video games or theme parks, etc. There's stuff for every age group in this franchise.
And I think she did an excellent job as Asoka… And like I said the show was good. It was just minor things. I didn’t like about it, but for the most part that show was good … But don’t get me started on the Acolite
I still stand by my thoughts that Ahsoka is a good show, but I totally understand where you are coming from. I honestly feel the same way for the most part. Disney continues to mess up this franchise and it drives me nuts that we have one good show and then we get 2 other shows that are controversial. It’s a pattern that keeps happening and it’s getting worse. I was completely disappointed with the Acolyte.
And people are upset about the stab wound because it’s inconsistent bro you gotta admit it… I love Star Wars but now it’s like lightsaber stab wounds don’t kill unless the story dictates that it does… It’s not consistent. She got stabbed the same way Qui Gon got stabbed yet she lived he didn’t.… I don’t get bent out of shape for stupid stuff but light sabers being inconsistent is a big deal. The force being changed is a big deal when it comes to now everyone can use it. I get your gripe, but you gotta understand why other people are having issues even with the Asoka show
It’s not about being picky, bro. I’m the same way. I try not to be biased at all when I watch shows or movies, etc. but what Star Wars has pushed out is trash. if you take the Asoka show I like that show for the most part, but I wasn’t too hyped about or was upset about was the fact of what they did with the force… Now everybody can have the force, it’s making it less important if everybody can do it… It’s certain things that these writers are coming up with that are going against what Star Wars was about… You take good and bad they’re taking that away. You take the force they’re changing it…that with bad writing is why people are complaining.
There should be at least a minimal logic ,direction and cohäsion in the starwars stories. Dialogues are terrible. Ashoka watches for 20 seconds at a time blankely tothe screen. I think it is simply no fun for me. It is aggressively mid and bland.
Yes the discourse is stupid. At this point is like those people who go on reddit to still complain about McDonald's discontinuing their Szechuan Sauce. Or worse, sometimes, it feels like a bunch of Vegans going to just some local burger joint and pouring blood on diners because eating meat is immoral, or something. The best policy is to not respond or engage with that sort.
It is absolutly insane to me how you are going to pick up a world that has years of lore, story, and worldbuilding put into it and you just decide to throw that all in the trash and disregard it completly. i mean the least you could do was play the fucking game omg that should have been a requirement. Also i dont understand what they were going for, were they trying to make it more accessible to the average person who hadnt played the game? its so stupid to me because if you had just stuck to the rules then you would have had millions of people watching it already because halo players would have watched it no questons asked. this in turn would have created even more buzz around the show and people would decide to try it. makes no sense what was going through their minds
I thought season two was significantly better than season 1 but still lacking. With that said, I think it’s the best we’re going to get because in the last 20 years there hasn’t been real talent that has wanted to work within this universe and sadly, I don’t think that day is going to come. People were quick to wish this show to die but somehow expect someone else to pick up the gauntlet. Unfortunately this most likely will not happen. The halo universe is dead folks, hope you feel good about it.
We definitely should have gotten a better product and it is reasonable for us to expect that. There’s no excuse for fumbling the bag like this when it comes to a franchise that has been loved for over 20 years. It shouldn’t be that hard to make something good with a franchise that has great source material like Halo.
@@Analyze_This54 it’s not reasonable to expect it. You act like here’s an infinite amount of talent lining up to build their own more accurate and intense version of the universe. The franchise peaked in 2008 and this is the best we got. We could be critical and demand the show get better and it did, but to outright wish it to die and go away was a mistake. There are many shows that don’t get their stride until the 3rd season. It was obvious the writers were listening to the fans.
If the writers were listening to fans then Master Chief would never take his helmet off, strip, and have sex lol. People wanted a fun story that was lore accurate. This was an uneducated writers’ version that ignored 90% of what makes Halo so popular.
@@Analyze_This54 The last time I checked the the master chief wasn’t a mandalorian? Did you even read the books? Because The master chief took his helmet off on occasion. I agree with you about the sex but that also took place during the 1st season…the writers drastically improved upon the 1st season which would imply the writers were listening to the fans, they practically erased the last episode in the first season.
Alright let’s move past the helmet thing. What about some of the side characters and their stories? Did we really need Soren and Kwan? Does Mackee even need to exist in this show? And why are all the Spartans portrayed as weak when they are supposed to be badass super soldiers? Did you read the books? If so, is any of this stuff in the books?
i love halo, but fans STOP! i dont care he takes his helmet off, and this guys opinion is just that, i thought the show was awesome and yes ive played all the games and animated works, i liked the changes, remember this is someone elses vision, not yours.
Gee I wish they would remember that it’s not their vision either. They are creating a show based off of an existing franchise. They shouldn’t be allowed to completely change characters and the lore. That’s why the show was cancelled.
Halo, witcher now god of war is next. So many great games that have rich universes. But even star wars and lord of the rings with huge budgets fail. Ill just go back to anime and old games i guess.
Cool video, i enjoyed the show for the most part, love halo not a super fan but definitely nostalgic. I to am hopeful for a reboot I just hope the funding is there to support it. Would you want the same actor for master chief he did seem to be a good fit but might hurt a reboot?
There were parts of the show I liked too. It was interesting enough to keep me coming back despite my complaints. I don’t have an issue with the actor, but I do think they need to get a new cast too. Might be best to wipe the slate clean.
Are you kidding me? Why would anybody want this dogshit to go further? The bastard degenerate showrunners never even bothered to play the FIRST SECOND of any ofnthe games. THATS LITERALLY WHERE THE HALO STORY COMES FROM!!!!!! What these dikks made was not Halo in the slightest. It's got Halo wallpaper on it. MASTER CHIEF DO NOT TAKE HIS HELMET AND SUIT OFF AND PRANCE AROUND NAKED!!!!!
I am interested, what do you think now ... one year later ... How many times rewatched Ahsoka .... for me one of the best features of a good SW product is rewatchability ...
You keep asking why people are being so nasty towards anyone who defends Disney Star Wars but you don't seem to be trying to answer that question. You've instead chosen to spend the entire video defending your own opinion while ignoring the elephant in the room. How are those Star Wars fans, the ones that don't like the Disney DEI effect on their beloved franchise, being treated by powerful corporations and media companies? What kind of names are they being called? What kind of legal consequences are they being threatened with? What you are facing is called "backlash" and if the worst form it takes is arrogance and sarcasm then you are NOT defending the side with the moral high ground. Your advice, that we should ignore "one-sided" online reviewers and watch this stuff anyway to "give it a chance" is bad advice. All Disney needs is that watch on their ratings to tell them they're doing a good job and continue producing the same product. Bad idea. If an online reviewer that you trust, because they have plenty of positive reviews on their channel and they didn't enjoy the thing you didn't enjoy for the same reasons you didn't enjoy it in the past, tells you that a new show is more of the same then you should not give it more than one episode to convince you otherwise. I gave Acolyte 2 episodes and I don't t think Disney deserved even that much encouragement. Won't make that mistake again, I'll leave it to the experts who get paid to throw themselves on those grenades.
I know Disney has done a poor job of carrying on the franchise and I did not like The Acolyte. But when I made this video months ago when Ashoka came out it was because some of the criticism was ridiculous. Calling Thrawn fat is stupid and crying about female characters leading the show is also dumb when literally that show was the continuation of Rebels. But somehow "hardcore" fans forgot about that. It's one thing to not like it, but to attack others for their opinions and enjoyment is wrong. I don't think I gave bad advice. Watching a 30 second TikTok that says the show is bad and then instantly feeling the same way is silly. If you aren't going to watch the whole show at least watching a few different reviews.
@@Analyze_This54 This fan baiting stuff was all going on back then, too. I don't have tiktok so not about to base my opinions on anything so unreliable but creators like The Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic who do longer form videos, with informed and balanced opinions I have never seriously disagreed with... I think it's safe to let them do the heavy lifting from here on. For what it's worth I agree that there have been some quality products unfairly caught up in the anti-woke backlash. Ms Marvel was actually a brilliant show with a likeable lead, colourful cultural education that didn't feel forced and an excellent study in the difference in cultural expectations between men and women when compared to Spiderman (which it is absolutely is the female story version of - jewelry instead of an icky spider bite, c'mon). Because it had a female lead everyone assumed it was going to be more SheHulk and failed to watch it despite the fact that it might be the only Disney show (aside from Shogun) that does not portray men as exclusively weak, stupid and evil. It's a shame but there are innocent victims on both sides of a culture war. Everyone thinks that corporations are undemocratic but it's not true - we all get to vote with our dollars and our attention.
@@seanbragger7035 Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic are some of the worst parts of the discourse. I more often than not, don't disagree with their takes. That's not my problem with them. It's the WAY they disseminate or execute their viewpoints (and, MUCH more so Nerdrotic than Drinker), that is borderline toxic. I used to like Nerdrotic. A lot. I can't stomach the bloke anymore.
@@seanbragger7035 "The Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic who do longer form videos, with informed and balanced opinions" LMAO, those guys are amongst the biggest Star Wars grifters and rage baiters on RU-vid. They are exactly the type of negative fans that the video was talking about. "that does not portray men as exclusively weak, stupid and evil." You haven't watched any of the shows have you? You're one of those goofs that got all their information from video clips and hot takes from grifters. Just like what the video talked about. "It's a shame but there are innocent victims on both sides of a culture war." There is no culture war. Time passes and people change. You are not the same type of person your grandfather or father was. You have different interests and priorities than their generations did and culture naturally changed.
Well if it’s anything, I’m with you there. I grew up as a Star Wars fan despite only seeing the original six, I do personally enjoy the sequels too because I was hyped for each one and to me each delivered with some exciting new ideas. I love Rogue One, Solo took me a while but I eventually found enjoyment with that too! And yeah I don’t think Disney Star Wars is perfect, The Book of Boba Fett was hit and miss, and Obi-Wan Kenobi was pretty frustrating (that said it does have one of the best Lego sets in my collection so I’m happy in that sense) My biggest issue though more than ever, has been the fans. Things weren’t too bad from 2011-2017, some minor frustrations but the people I hung out with and my perspective of the general audience was that everyone no matter the differences in opinions, at least still acted civil… Then The Last Jedi came out and started a riff which Solo and The Rise of Skywalker made worse, The Mandalorian seemed to make things better but The Book of Boba Fett, Obi-Wan Kenobi and even Season 3 of The Mandalorian just took that small light of uniting the fans, and returning it back to the warzone that VIII and IX made. I will admit I was on the side of defending the Disney stuff for a time because I was more frustrated that the people hating on the Disney stuff were also saying how perfect the Prequels, Clone Wars and Legends material were which of course made me sick, if there’s one thing I will always hate no matter what, it’s a hypocrite. Then The Acolyte came out, I will say I have enjoyed it so far, but the reason I talk about this separately is because that is the show where the warzone of fans has become more intense, you either hate it with a passion or you think it’s the best thing ever. if you’re in between like I am, then your opinion sucks and will be made fun of. I personally thought that it was nice that there were people ready to fight the hypocrisy, but then they turned sour too by posting death threats to people like Star Wars theory. That was when it dawned on me that there really is no winning on either extreme, you’re either a hypocrite or a sell out. So basically put, I just want to enjoy what I want to enjoy, I want to try and stay as neutral as possible from this online fan war, but it was really cool to see your video and although I can see us disagreeing on a lot of things, the fact that you’re coming into an argument with a more mature manner and an attitude that will encourage more civil conversations, let’s me know that maybe there is some hope out there in a Galaxy Far Far Away
That's fair! I am the same way. I'm not happy with a lot of Disney Star Wars, but there are some things I like. I can even find some things I like in the shows and movies that I dislike. I totally understand why the fandom is a mess. But some people are just flat out ridiculous and that is why I made this video after the Ahsoka show. Because I thought that was one of the better shows.
I truly despise the term "content". I'm interested in immersing myself in fantasy. But no matter how good any specific story is, it's all for naught if the setting's foundations are broken. I can enjoy a flashy fight scene in a vacuum, but I won't watch an entire show if I know it's going to lead to something fundamentally nihilistic at its core. You're free to watch what you wish, but I'd rather go my own way and create my own media, than to cede the story to some uncaring corporate entity.
@@Vladislav888 I thought he was fine. He is a smart tactician who finessed everyone at the end so he could escape the planet. He might not have been as exciting as some hoped, but the whole point of the story was for him to escape. I thought it was wild to hear some people complain about him looking fat. Like the appearance is really what some are gonna complain about? What were your thoughts on Thrawn and the show?
@@Analyze_This54 >What were your thoughts on Thrawn and the show? I've yet to watch Asoka. I've only seen Thrawn and I thought he is repulsive. He is supposed to be a man of impeccable discipline, this is his core value. It's not compatible with him being fat, which is one of primary indicators that one lacks discipline. I will write back after watching the show.
I wanted to like Disney Star wars. And I did enjoy the force awakens. Was disappointed with the last Jedi and didn't even bother with rise of Skywalker cause Palpatine returned.
I really love Andor, but I do understand your complaints about the other shows not being given the same treatment when Disney Lucasfilm could be making the other shows as high quality if not more so than Andor.
