Just a regular bloke into hiking and wildcamping. Following a heart attack in 2021 and then diagnosed with type 2 diabetes in 2022. Videos to follow my adventures. Trying to get fitter and healthier while exploring the hills and mountains of the UK. Occasional kit reviews and just general vlogging.
The vern isn’t really close in quality truth be told. That is clearly obvious given the price difference. Would be interesting to see a real world pitch / take down every day for weeks / months at a time. The Hilleberg would come put on top I would imagine. Both great tents though
I probably wouldn't. I'm no expert on urban camping though. But I'd have thought something less expensive, and with a bit more room would probably serve you better.
@@HairyHiker2022thanks have you been happy with the tent? I’m looking at it mainly to bike tour, but also some hiking and camping like the coast to coast. Not out and out winter camping in heavy snow and gales. Do you thing it would suit this? Finally , my last two theme have been single entrance tunnel tents and they were ridiculously hot in even slightly warm weather. Have you used this in warmer weather and was it suitable? Thanks for responding by the way. I’ve messaged other YT’s about tents and had nothing 👍🏻
@ianmatlock1 in the warm the two large doors do help with through ventilation. I cannot yet comment on it's performance in severe conditions I cannot comment in as I've not experienced that in it yet. For the purposes you want I think it would do a good job.
There are plenty of others showing the pitching, as with most tents, there are numerous ways to do it, better for folk to figure that out for themselves what works best for them. I'm more interested in showing the tent itself. No wasted opportunity really.
Cheviot’s look great as does the V1. Snowdonia = Eryri (Ur-ruh- ri) and Snowdon is Yr Wyddfa (Ur Wivth- vah). The rounded hills in Welsh are usually called Moel …which I would imagine the inhabitants of the hill fort would have called the hills in the cheviots.
I'm aware of the names of the more famous Welsh mountains. I imagine the inhabitants of Northumberland didn't use the same words for hills or mountains that the Welsh did/do way back in the day. There may have been occasional crossover but not so much as far as I've learned.
@@HairyHiker2022 the hillforts were built by the Brythonic Celts so they would have spoken the forerunner to old Welsh. The oldest Welsh poetry existing was written just up the road in Edinburgh
As an update, my son used it 7 days on the fjallraven classic plus 3 days either side in a campsite, one night we had 35-40mph winds and it did a manful job.
Not as yet. Only got back from the continent yesterday. I think I'd like to seam sealed it first as it's not stitched like the hillebergs or Nortents. So will need to be done really.
Hi Wouter, I tried contacting you via the store email and WhatsApp but I guess you haven't seen them. You can message me at scott.th74@hotmail.co.uk if that helps.
They must have a pretty big turnaround on stuff. The times I've been in there it gets really busy. After I'd taken the video and photos, there were actually queues at the checkouts.
Opps the Hilleberg two man tents are in trouble!! 😂And can also say without using it that is the best two man tent in the universe 🤣. jokes aside it looks a cracking tent, Good room to weight ratio and I like the shape of the vestibules 👌 hope to see you having some adventures in it 😉
I'd looked at buying one of these but the price was a bit out of my reach (I have way too many tents). It's a good weight for a 2 person tent and I love the design. I look forward to seeing you out in it :) atb DVS
Yeah it's not a budget bit of kit for sure. Being able to buy it here in euros has saved me a good few quid but I totally get ya. Hopefully I get a chance to be out in it next week. If I do, I'll do a little camp video. Too many tents sounds familiar. The struggle is real haha 🤣
Looks awesome, I've seen there online store but never ordered out. Think they include customs duty in their prices also which is handy. Thx for sharing.
Your fast! Your just out of the store and the tent is already pitch in your yard 😅 . I like the shape of the tent and also that the vents are in the vestibule, leaving the possibility to leave both doors open for the night. Can you use the opening of the vestibule as an awning with trekking poles? Congratulations on your new tent
Haha yeah it looks like it's gonna rain so I thought straight up to check. Yes the vestibule door can be fixed to trekking poles for an awning if you want. I'm a fan of big vestibules haha. I can put my boots and some kit in one and cook, enter and exit from the other. I'll probably change out the guylines for 3mm hilleberg line and I'm going to swap the pegs. They're basic v pegs and I have others I like more but other than that I'm happy as is. Will see how it performs. I've the option to swap out the poles if I really want to from 7001 T6 to DAC but that's a decision for another time.
@etztz123 you do have issues. I have issues. I'm thinking of starting up Tentaholics Anonymous. "Hello, my name is Scott, it's been 4 days since I bought my last tent" 🤣
Thanks for taking the time to put a video together, the shelves looked well stocked my pet hate is Gooutdoors and its lack of gear in stock. often having to resorted to online ordering.
I've bought additional magnets off e bay. Very cheap. Same diameter, far stronger, and taped them over the originals with DCF tape. Far better, but just shouldn't be necessary. It's a known fault. Had to do the same with my TT Notch. Also agree re the pole cups. Fiddly and ineffective. I'm happy so far with the Ultra material. Jury out on the robustness of the inner floor though.
One difference in cost is that the Nortent production is done at their factory in Changzhou, China. Hilleberg tents are manufactured at their facility in Rapla, Estonia. Thanks for the great review. Wishing you good fortune and happy trails!
Yeah that's very true. The build quality seems good to me but the question remains about its strength in poor conditions. It definitely has weaknesses for sure.
Tbh the Vern 1 isn't fit for purpose. It's not for favoured influencers or customers that have purchased the product with their own money to test the product after it's hit the market. Yes Nortent can correct the obvious design flaws in the third edition of this tent but that doesn't help those customers that trusted this company prior to purchase and made the financial investment. If they suggest 10mm DAC poles, then ship them to current owners for free. Or do the decent thing and just issue a full product recall. The only hype I believed was that purchasing a second set of Nortent 9mm poles for harsh weather was beneficial. This I fell for. According to another Nortent owner that's posted online and invested in both a new set of DAC poles and another set of Nortent 9mm it makes little difference to the performance. But the weight penalty is getting ridiculous. The use of a trekking pole to assist the front guylines seems to be the best option to aid stability and wind resistance. It's a shambolic mess and Nortent are 100% to blame. Time they took it on the chin!
As I said on your comparison video, That yours was the most balanced first impression, of the vern 1 on youtube. I also point out that any reviews were premature and highlighted a certain individual (B######Tuk) as the worst culprit with his extravagant claims about the tent he had for free!. 🧐I would disagree with you about experience though. That is experience with knowledge gain. And i'm sure your scrambled eggs are ok 👌😂. ATB 😉
Hahaha you haven't eaten them 🤣. 100% agree with your comment on experience if knowledge is gained. I know plenty of people who have a ton of experience in things but they've been doing it wrong for all that time or they just haven't learned the lessons that experience should have taught them. It's interesting that some of the "sensational" videos have been taken down now.
@@HairyHiker2022Thanks Scott, For your quick reply to my comment. Didn't realize that some of the video had been taken down, Not being subed to these Clickbait (b######t) channels. I only took some interest as an owner of some Hllleberg tents. Also you and Your engineering mate are absolutely correct about the optimum angle of a tent for wind resistance taken into account the flexiblilty of materials used.. 🧐Yes I'm drawing on my experienced as a wild camper with a manufacturing backgraound 😉 Keep practising your scrambled eggs 😂
Do the mods! Let's see how they work. And test them in 60mph so we can blame you when the tent fails, and we'll all shake our heads and say you're irresponsible, lol :) BTW, what's the name of the place where you can get mods made to your tents?
@@HairyHiker2022 Thanks for the info. 👍 And I look forward to seeing your video where you deliberately stress-test your tent to the point of failing. so that I can admonish you whilst letting everyone know how many years experience I have (of watching videos on U-tube) and how I'd never go out camping if there's a even a chance of rain. It's just too irresponsible. 🙂
Good evening, Scott, firstly I think you did a great job summarising what most people are thinking. To answer your question on why I set the guy lines slightly to one side (this was a decision I made at the time). By pegging the lines slightly into the wind, it allows the crossing pole to be better supported when the wind blows. The same way you would with a tunnel tent. Obviously in no way to deform the pole or structural strength, but by moving those 2 guy lines into the wind it holds the tent up better in wind. So, the guy lines actually take some of the force rather than just the poles/fabric in this occasion. Take your Nallo 2 (I also have 1), if you did not have the added guy lines to the vent hood, and set it up vestibule into the wind, if you move the guy lines on the main/biggest pole slightly towards the vestibule end of the tent, it supports that main pole, in comparison to the guy lines being directly to the side. That was my logic at the time at least, I have pitched the Nallo like that including in forecast 80mph winds. I hope this helps; it looks like you had a nice camp there. Thank you. Rowan.
Hi Rowan, firstly sorry to see you had to bail and got damage. Always a tough call to make. Thanks for your comments. Regarding the guy-outs, it was more to do with one line running towards the wind and one perpendicular to the tent. Whilst I totally understand what you're saying regarding guying into the wind, I'm just wondering whether having the guylines at different directions maybe increased the lateral forces on the lower end of the pole. I genuinely don't know if it would but I was just trying to rationalise what may have caused the pile break. Hope you have a better time of it on your next trip out 👍
@@HairyHiker2022 Thank you, can't say I wanted to get out in those conditions again. But it was for testing purposes. Yes, so I thought the top guy line, is taking the most strain for the crossover pole, I did the same both sides. As, for it changing the forces on the pole especially at the lower end, I personally cannot see it doing any harm, I'm no engineer however. I can see why you would think that of course. Nortent also saw the videos as I emailed them before I put the videos out, and they never said I did anything wrong (except for pitching it where I did, I suppose), but they appreciated the feedback and seeing it in those conditions. Since then, they have sent me an extra set of poles and asked me to test it again, in similar weather. For context purposes- They originally did not offer to send poles, but asked for me to test with double poles, something I stated would cost me and for no benefit to me, as I have my answer on the tent. Few days later they offered to send some. So, I guess when that sort of weather returns, I will be out in it again. Thanks. Rowan
@@RowanWildCamps glad you got more poles. The Korean I see and hear the Korean it sounds to me like Nortent rushed the tent out and customers are being the unwitting beta testers. Anyway I'm selling mine. I have too many tents and the Vern just doesn't tick enough boxes for me. Hopefully it works better for you with the double poling and you don't have to bail when the weather gets bad.
I've said it for years gear reviewers often do the reviews with rose tinted glasses and yes I do think it's to get more gear in future the Vern isn't the only thing I can remember when those trekolgy mats came out of they were the bees knees then the truth came out no r value or next to non and the durability was shocking yet reviewers were still saying there the best.and your right about them having a duty to tell the whole truth about gear.
Absolutely mate. I've seen so many reviews in recent years where they're basically glorified sales pitches and it's pretty mercenary. I personally only currently review things I've purchased myself. If in future, companies want me to review stuff it will only happen if I have carte blanch to say what I want good or bad. I suspect that means I won't be getting much stuff to review and I'm fine with that haha
