What's up everyone? I'm currently documenting the arduous process of doing a project with and for my father, a 1964 Chevy Nova SS. He's wanted to do this for over 15 years, and because he's almost 70, I don't want to let time get away before we can bond and make more memories together. Follow along, comment, subscribe and lets see what it takes together. God Bless!
Kinda brushed through this video (sorry bout that) but saw your issue with getting the front at 'ride height' while still being able to maneuver the tire inside the fender. When you have the car up on stands, jack up the LCA til the wheel is where you want it or even maxed out (hitting bump stop or max travel), and you should still be able to turn the wheel to mimic turning at ride height or in a dip with the fender on. Also, as someone who DIY installed a couple flares kits, I'll share some experiences and issues I faced. I used some 'universal flares' the first time, and I already had a set of wheels and tires purchased, so I already knew I was in the ballpark fitment wise. The wheels mostly filled out the flares, so I got that last bit of fitment with spacers, this way if I decided to eventually get meatier tires (which I did) I could use the same wheels and lose the ~15mm spacers but still fill the flare well. As for installing, the order of the steps you take are pretty important, imo. Cut the fender and quarters so you can drop the car down to your ideal ride height - trim and sneak up on it to where you have enough susp travel to not hit the tires, but keep as much metal as you can (gives more freedom to mount the flares higher or lower as needed). When the car is at the ride height you want, then install the flares. This way you're getting the perfect fitment by choosing where to mount the flares, instead of raising or lowering the vehicle. Its a balance between this, and how the flares look on the body as a whole. When I did mine I mounted the flares first to where I thought it best suited the body lines and looked even on the car, then cut the metal to match that. But what ended up happening was when I finally dropped the car on the ground and set the ride height to where I got my ideal fitment in the flares, I had slight reverse rake. I ended up raising the rear a bit so that my car was level (at the cost of rear wheel gap) - I really should have mounted the rear flares about 1/2" lower on the body but I did things out of order. Even if I wanted to remount and lower the rear flares, I cut the arch a bit too close to the flares unnecessarily, so new holes aside its not really feasible because I didn't leave much metal inside the flare. If you got a chassis specific kit, ignore all this! Lol. Sorry for the TED talk (and if you covered any of this already in the video that I missed! Lol), hope any of these tips can help you in the future! I'll sub to keep an eye on the progress, 100th sub btw!
I appreciate it bud- I did sort of mansplain it to my wife this way, that we won’t finalize flare placement until we have gotten to a point where a some miles and testing/tuning has been done. Thank you for sharing your story in this because this will be my first time doing flares like this myself!
@@LostBoys.CarClub you're not wrong, and I totally agree. Thus not hating on the idea and want to see you pull it off. Soooo quit being lazy and get to work! hahaha I know I'm one to talk right! LMAO
@OneMoreBolt haha- well videos my pick up as far as consistency goes because of a position change in the company that will keep me home more, we will see how my busy work keeps me haha.
@@LostBoys.CarClub Hopefully the work position change was a good one. More potential time at home for the project is definitely a plus. Time is always my biggest issue. I wish I had the time during the week to get a few hours in here and there but it just doesn't happen.
@@OneMoreBolt we will see, it’s a salary bump, so that’s always a plus. I’m expecting the first 6 months to be a learning curve, but I also have a bunch of tedious work to start, so chipping away a bit at a time will be just fine.
That's a shame about CBR. Unfortunately, not the first time I have heard this sort of thing when it comes to them. Nice parts but difficult to work. (I also think they are over priced, but I'm a cheap a$$, so yeah.)
Yeah man, super frustrating, so after all the money I spent with them I get accused, rude responses, or ignored for weeks. Sad part was I was planning on doing the subframe upgrade in due time, but in the end I may look at trying my hand at designing something myself.
@@LostBoys.CarClub Not gonna lie, their subframe never really impressed me anyway. The best part is the bitchin inner fenders, and well, they are DSE inner fenders not CBR. So yeah. If you want high dollar bad ass, the DSE setup is the way to go. Downside, you wouldn't be reusing all that CBR stuff you already forked for. But Hey, for now you pretty much have everything to make the front end complete and drivable, so push on with the next step. Trust me, project cars are alot more fun when you can drive them. That's why I'm making a push on getting my wagon going again. (plus I have to show up the wife at the drag strip, haha)
@OneMoreBolt absolutely my man, definitely focus on getting it ready to drive first, then after driving tuning we will aim to do rear suspension overhaul, cage, ect. As far as the front end goes- it’s done, unless someone thinks what I’m doing is cool, and decide to sponsor me for a front clip or chassis 😅😅
Well, good news about the motor at least. BTW, 8k rpm is easy. good balance job, right cam, single plane intake any good heads (even old camel humps) and electronic ignition (dual point if you want to get frisky with the old school) and you can whip up 8k. That said, if you push the power band up that high, it's gonna need like 4.30 gears or higher to make it worth it and with a 4sp and no overdrive, not gonna be an enjoyable cruiser. I'd really suggest considering what the car is mostly going to get used for and build around that. Just a thought. I love screaming SBCs, so I'm not saying not to do, just playing a little devils advocate like I do for myself on my projects.
Realistically, the car isn’t going to be much of a street car, or even drag, we may give it a shot to see how it does, but the more we plan out the car, pro touring isn’t even the category. I’m thinking we do something a little more than that, like the Silver State Classic. As the car evolves it will be more and more track focused.
Just keep telling yourself once it's together it'll be nice. This CBR stuff seems like a headache. My second hand Mustang II front clip has been less of a hassle. But hey, just about everyone I hear things about CBR from, it's good reviews of the product.
For sure man, I haven’t been losing motivation but maybe momentum. To this point things have been pretty straight forward and I like the product quality, but getting answers from Chuck Church have been slow. I have been emailing him back and forth and his responses aren’t exactly prime customer service, let alone slow, I wait 3-5 days for a response every time.
Ugh, that would drive me up a wall. You must have more patience than I do for that sort of thing than I would. Considering the price tags those products have, I would be on fire with that kind of service. But I have high expectations when spending good money. The second hand junk that I have has very little expectation other than to find issues, so, even though the issues can be frustrating sometimes, they are expected.
@@OneMoreBolt oh man- the 41 years I’ve spent on this earth have helped me see that there are bigger things at play, but I am annoyed. Realistically I still have time before we get the motor back, still have a bunch of small things to do, as well as source a transmission, so in the end I’m sure this will be sorted by then. I filmed a little update and haven’t posted it yet, but may do so the next couple of days.
Watch out man, before you know it, she'll be telling you how to build her car! haha Good times, it's always better when the other half wants to be apart of the hobby. BTW, she totally pulled you man card when it came to the directions, gonna have to work on those return fire zingers!
hahaha, it's so left field when she tosses zingers, she's normally the sweetest supporter of anything and everything I do, when she comes at me with the sass I'm always taken off guard haha. Right now her newest interest has been doing more photography, lets hope it doesn't end up being cars!!!! lol
@@LostBoys.CarClub the ziggers keep it fun for sure. My better half is definitely not shy about taking shots whenever she gets the chance. To be honest, careful what you wish for, photography can get stupid expensive if she starts wanting them fancy lenses. Cars might be cheaper! haha
Haha- I already have the expensive cameras and lenses, I’ve done photography for years, she is using an older canon I have, I’m just trying to learn videography now buts it’s such a different beast. My IG has a ton of car photos.
@@LostBoys.CarClub Well in that case send her on down that rabbit hole. haha Video is definitely very different. I didn't get to far down the photography rabbit hole, just enough to have some nice stuff that can get pretty good photos, but to be honest I don't use any of hardly ever anymore, all video stuff these days. Even at that I'm doing all I can to get the video stuff as streamlined and basic as possible so it doesn't become a chore to record whatever, just grab and go.
@@OneMoreBolt for sure- I get that 100% I definitely don’t care to do too much with filming beyond what it needs to be, plus doing it all outside I have too little control over the light so making things perfect is low on the priority list. Just learn.
Looking pretty good with all the fresh black. For future endeavors, a floor jack really helps when hanging parts like the front frame sections, that way you just have to balance the part rather than hold all the weight up. Side note, having the mike at you neck adds a lot of extra noise, may try a few different spots to wear to see what comes out cleaner.
Haha yeah, the jack would’ve helped, it’s more of the awkwardness than the weight of the panel, but next time. I’ll definitely work on some different mic positions, it bugs me as well
@@LostBoys.CarClub Yeah, I've battled alot with trying to figure out getting the best audio, it's a pain and I'm still not 100% happy with what I get, but getting there. Anyway, stay at it and keep trying stuff, only way to find out what works and doesn't.
Thanks for that- I’m definitely not trying to make it too complicated. All my other videos were using a Canon 6D MKII, but I did this one with a Sony A7SIII that I just picked up
We are working on a 1964 Nova also. We took that entire front tub off and sent out to get sandblasted and powdered coated. With that front off made it easier to grind off those rivets that hold those strut rods as they will need to go to put the Church Boys lower control arms on. No spring compressor you are a brave man! Good Luck with the Nova!
Thanks for the tips! I’ve thought about taking it completely off too, but I’m a one man show most of the time, my dad isn’t over too often to have the help I probably need. Right now the goal is to knock off all the surface rust and get a decent coat of paint on it before assembling the front end again.
Oh man- if I had a big block as special as this 302 we are building, I totally would. I’ll try and make a video where I go into greater detail the phases we are doing and end plans for the car.
Thanks dude! Seriously content with the result, still have a lot of thoughts on how the floors behind the seat all the way through the trunk may come together over time, but one foot in front of the other!
@@LostBoys.CarClub that's it man, just one step at a time. I know you can get a trunk pan replacement but not sure if it has that section where it meets the full floor pan. Never tried finding that piece. If you do end up doing trunk pan work you should really considering mini tubs at the same time, the extra space in the wheel well is worth it, especially if you inboard the leafs.
@@OneMoreBolt there are a couple companies that make that rear seat panel replacement, I’m just debating on if it will be something I do stock, or if it will need some customization once I decide on the rear suspension style, then doing the due diligence on tubs, floor, etc will happen. I have some fun ideas but don’t want to give too much away just yet
As great as the M22s are, I would highly recommend looking at doing something like a TKX, especially in SoCal. An OD gear will make cruising the highway so much nicer. Just food for thought. I love my "munchie" haha but it's probably coming out for something that has OD.
@@LostBoys.CarClub Actually, I work in downtown OKC and live about 20ish minutes north of Edmond. Moved out here a few years back and love it. Originally a SoCal native, grew up in the Inland Empire.
@@OneMoreBolt nice! My wife lived and worked out there for about 8 years. We’ve said many times if for some reason we need to move, it will probably be there.
Unfortunately the main braces had sections completely rusted through, so they had to be scrapped, if there was stuff I could pass on I certainly would!
To be honest, based on the condition of those factory parts it would probably be cheaper and come out alot nicer to replace all those front suspension parts with new/aftermarket upgrades. Especially since you plan to put a spicy little motor in the car, good performing/handling suspension and brakes are worth there while and cost.
for sure- I ended up ordering a complete new brake kit for simplicity, and the Church Brothers control arms and coil overs. I have the brakes now but still waiting on the suspension pieces, so I might try to pull the front end apart and start cleaning it up in preparation.
Solid start for a great project. Looking forward to catching up on your videos and seeing how this projects turns out. Super cool to see that it's a legitimate DZ motor and not just some fluff in the title of the video.
@@OneMoreBolt fair enough, I mean- I honestly didn't know what route we were going to go with the powerplant for this car until I ran across a random FB market ad that luckily was actually authentic!
nice choice for a build! im 60 and started re building a 71 Camaro mid last year and am almost ready to troll the streets. cant wait to drive it. keep going for your dad to see finished. peace
Thanks! It must be an exciting feeling to know it’s right around the corner. I have some more updates on the condition coming soon, just gotta put the video together, hopefully tomorrow. We are very excited to tackle the hard work without hesitations, even if some of it we haven’t done before