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Great video, I think you know you muffed some of those ratings. The river was clearly understable and the leopard3 was the longest and straightest flight in the vid. 😏
You should do overstable drivers next, X/4/0/3-4. In my experience not all of them are as overstable as the numbers suggest and the flights vary a bit too, some have big skips and some just dig into the ground.
There is one thing with Epic not mentioned here. You can tune its stability by bending it (wing down, wing up). So, if you have tailwind, you probably want wing down. If you bend the wing down and throw a backhand, you'll see what a tunnel throw exactly is, because the disc will create its own tunnel. It's weird and funny.
how are you going to make a straight midrange disc test without the straightest midrange. heck i wouldve sent mine if you needed two very different good ones
Yes, he has twenty different designs pdga approved and is one of the most creative thinkers I know. Do reach out again, he is a part of your description of the future of disc golf
Is it multi-speed or multi-glide? The amount of wobble seems to vary on different throws, and the amount of wobble may affect the potential glide. Thoughts?
I love Trash Panda, but... from a physics/aerodynamics point of view this thing is actual trash. It will wobble and lose distance, and the top of the dome will not be the center of the wing. The lift is changing as the disc rotates. This is just a start. It's on par with with Gateway baskets sadly...
The Basilisk was in my first ever starter pack and it was amazing at how good at rollers I was. Until my friend who's been playing for a few years looked at it and just laughed and told me why. Still one of my favorite disks until I literally cracked the rim (stupid trees). I now have a fairway driver from Yikun that does the exact same thing but is nigh in destructible.
the stig just made my bag recently as that understable mid range slot, and what a workhorse. pretty understable if you give it some juice but shes perfect
No Legacy Discs representation? Smh the Phenom and Nemesis would fit nicely. Phenom in Icon plastic is an og FD type disc. So good. And if you’re doing 10 speeds
Have a Bunker Buster in my bag. It always gets everyone's attention when I pull it out. It has earned the nickname "Dinner plate" with my regular group.
I used to throw Epics a lot. It's IMO too finicky with regards to the wind, so it's mostly a novelty shot nowadays. Still, mostly an overhead/thumber shooter. But! For those wacky upshot glides like Epic, a really understable light disc sort of works like it. My "replacement" for the Epic is a ~150 gram Blizzard Champ Boss.
Great channel with a ton of good information and Caleb's relative consistency off the tee compared to some other channels is really helpful, I just always seem to be considering the one disc that doesn't make it into the comparison videos. :)
There is an app we use called AceTrace. We pay for the full version because we use it for every video. It can be buggy but with some persistence, it works.
I'd love to see a video seeing if fission plastic really has less turn variance from headwind to tailwind than a single plastic disc because of the increased gyroscopic stability. I suppose you would need to find the same mould in the same weight with the same parting height to really test fairly. I don't know if there are any fission moulds that also come in single plastic.
When I started playing in 2004, there was a guy that I played with using the epic. He would tune it for different flight shapes. What was fun was when he tuned it backwards and ended up 250’ off line. I believe it came with instructions on tuning it for different shot shapes, and it was also advertised to get more forward push due to the odd balance created by the rim. It is interesting to see a newer version of it.
I rotate my discs around my hand on the pad until I have a comfortable (no notches) hold in my throwing arm and no notches on my steadying touch with the other hand... Fine when you have the same grip 360deg round the disc.. with 'most' of my discs it's easy to get at least 2 smooth points of touch... With this disc.. there's only going to be 2 places that will feel comfortable to grip (with the right width... and the chances those spots are undamaged are... well... I throw plastic at trees... so the smooth sections are reducing with every game. I guess I would b ok as long as I got the expensive plastic version... (like most of my discs now anyway.. other than a soft Cosmic Proxy...
Not gonna lie. I'm a trash panda fan but this disc seems like a fail. The wobbles decreases it's distance. It's inconsistent from what I seen in 3 reviews now.
Besides people who like the asymmetrical feel for forehands and backhands, I thought the purpose of Epic-like discs was to get thumber and tomahawk flights you can't get with a symmetrical disc. If the ET2 flies like symmetrical discs on thumbers and tomahawks, then I'm not sure it's functionally different than a symmetrical discs. Maybe it has a different grenade flight? Maybe it's roller flight might be different? Hard to think of other ways it can provide something over and above symmetrical discs.
I bought a bard because it seemed interesting, i can't throw the damn thing to save my life. It flexes beautifully when i manage to throw it on an anhyzer, but what i've noticed is when it flips over it starts to "cut" and it doesn't stop cutting until it slams into the ground. Throw it on a big hyzer and you can make it do a wide u-turn, perfect utility for rounding trees and corners.
