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I really like the older PCs with balcs kevlar panels. With the increase and ease of use of drones and drone dropped grenades we see all the time in Ukraine, its seems the older kevlar panels + plates PCs are making a comeback.
How does the cummerbund attach in the rear? Is it compatible with the latest structural cummerbunds that allow for side armor such as the Ferro 3AC soft side panels?
They moved onto the MSV which a newer version of the IOTV in a slimmer profile but there are still things to be left undesired but it’s significantly better than the IOTV imo
This is one of the worst items I was ever issued. And that was the consensus. The amount of heat retained in the IOTV is an incredible design oversight, or more likely it wasn’t in the contract to care about it so they didn’t. The actual body of the carrier is way too long too. Taking a kneeling shot before you pass out due to your front plate choking you out (because the soft armor that extends 3” past the bottom of the plate has bunched up against your belt pressing the plate upward) is illogical even for the army. The cummerbund of the gen 2&3 has a panel of fucking plastic sewn into it too. I think the theory was to add structural support to the carrier but in practice, guys fold those soft armor “wings” on the rib section in for some cooling, and now that cummerbund is chafing you until you bleed. Great. And if you want to get a good stock weld or expect a ruck to play well with this $1500 hunk of shit, you’ve got another thing coming. Before one of you galaxy brains starts coping to me, I know it was built to the army’s requirements for a carrier that massively increased surface area protected from frag/shrapnel. But it was designed by people who never had to use it, let alone live in it, or fight in it. Wearing this thing in the desert, during some godforsaken uphill climb with a ruck on is all anyone with sentience needs to go through before stating that this is one of the very worst pieces of equipment ever to be inflicted upon mankind. The gen 4 saw the soft armor relocated to the cummerbund and was marginally better.
So RPGs and IEDs and snipers don’t exist, I’m don’t really care if ya say I’m coping, but from what I’ve heard about my dads experience in Iraq in 2007, shit was blowing up everywhere, ieds and EFPs, snipers and RPGs, it was a plate carrier meant to save in a war like Iraq and Afghanistan where bullets and shrapnel come from every direction and I can guarantee you it saved lifes and prevented injuries
@@antoniochalking I don't think anyone is trying to downplay its ballistic protective capabilities, just that the way the designers went about implementing them had caused more/ different issues (besides the fact that the only rifle rated protection is the plate itself and not the soft armor). By the trends of the Army its self they are taking a step back from tacking on so much armor, the Gen 4 got rid of the wings and implemented soft armor into the cummerbund and the MSV has cut down the overall foot print of the carrier.
I’m with you on that, I fucking hated the older designs. I got issued the GEN 4 before a deployment and it was sooooo much better than these abominations. I get the idea behind frag protection, but you were more than likely going to be a heat cat than anything. I had this dick nozzle 1SG who bitched at us when I was deployed with an ADA unit about how the crew going down range to arm the launchers during an alert didn’t wear IOTVs. Sorry, but no body armor on this planet will save you from a TBM volley, maybe from frag if your lucky, but your screwed if your in the impact area.
I thought they are supposed to go on the carrier itself? How is it getting airflow and pushing the carrier away from your body if it's internal. Just curious
Absolutely. As noted in the Format and Disclosure sections of every INSIGHTS video we publish, our entire YT video series started to answer customer questions. Timestamp 3:22 as just one example: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JQX85089ITE.htmlfeature=shared
There’s a huge market segment you guys are missing when it comes to iPad gamers and digital artists and designers. I’m a graphic designer and I could use one of these when I buy the new iPad Pro 13.
It would be awesome to see wilder tactical’s mhp included as I have yet to see any reviews. Then a durability test of some sort for those of us in duty settings. Also the ride heights between them all
The last three holsters I have gotten from safariland all have come installed on a cubl. That being said, i run everything on MHAs. I would love to see destructive testing of belt mounts to see what holds up the best, as well as separate testing on quick detach adapters (qls/g-code rti/ blatetech) tekmount)
Take a look at the RDR Gear MH2. Looks nearly identical to the UBL but has significant built-in cant capabilities and a really slick TQ bracket available. Good pick especially for those concerned about something that "looks different" at work.
YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THE GCA50 - RTI Hanger. IT ALLOWS YOU TO CANT THE HOLSTER PROPERLY WITH THE SAFARILAND HOLSTERS. I use the GCA50 - RTI Hanger attached to a Safariland holster on the True North Concepts hanger with the G-Code RTI along with the Shaw concepts sidekick leg strap. I use this configuration for work and it is my prefered method of carry. I am glad you put this content out. I will be sending this video to my co-workers that have been asking me about this very subject.
Yes. I run the true north adapter without a leg strap. Very annoying during foot chases and drawing my pistol. I switched back to safariland ubl with zipties because of this. Considering the bang hanger now just because it is lighter in weight. I am concerned that it will have the same flipping as the true north.
How many belt have been destroyed by the MHA??? It’s hard on belts. The bang hanger is awesome. It’s flex while worn is so much more comfortable and I don’t need a thigh strap with it like I did with my MHA.
I've seen 2 belts get their MOLLE chewed up by MHAs. Won't be a problem for a while for people who only wear their belt for the occasional range outing, but for anyone wearing their belt regularly, mounting it over the belt is the best option. Or just get a Bang Hanger. It won't chew up belts and is much nicer than having a slab of aluminum hanging off the belt.
I would like to see how blade tech stacks up. I have a few of their holster and attachments and supposedly you can convert safari land holsters to use blade tech’s attachment systems.🤷♂️
@@HockeyFan46 I use it on patrol everyday for the last 6 months. Switched from the truenorth. Mainly for the swivel ability and it is easier to pull off and use on my competition belt. I’d say it’s the best one I’ve used
Flex and strength. How much can/will the adapter flex or tilt or shift if the draw isn’t perfect or otherwise effected by other factors. If someone besides the wearer attempts to remove the firearm or the wearer falls or hits the holster on an object (or gets hit) how will they hold up?
@@HockeyFan46 its about the comfort of it. I Could never drive a car with a low ride, bang hanger makes any height super comfy and you will actually be able to work out of car with the lowest height. Something that is very painful with every single other option.
I would like to see some sort of standardized destructive testing involving the force necessary to rip a holster body (say, a 7390 or 7360) from the mounting hardware
To be honest statistically placing any type of barrier between you and a bullet could save your life that being said I believe level 3 is great option to start with.😅
We actually built ICEPLATE® Classic in the 10x12 format originally. However, through that process, the Army informed us that the Medium ESAPI footprint (which is 9.5” x 12.5”) is what they issue because it fits 80% of the US population, making it far and away the most prolific armor plate geometry. That is why ICEPLATE Curve is built for the Medium ESAPI 9.5” x 12.5” footprint. Full details can be found here: www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/iceplate-faq-a-deeper-dive-into-the-why-the-science-and-the-design-of-the-worlds-most-capable-water-bottle?_pos=3&_sid=b86a1fbb0&_ss=r
