Very nice. So what happened to mushroom supplies? Their page is basically non-existent, and the last couple bags i got from them were already contaminated. It seems like they stopped caring.
I'm honestly not sure. For me personally, after using the North Spore grow bag I feel like it is a superior product and if I do more bag grows I'll just use that.
First time grower here. I have 4 all-in-one bags that are fully colonized, I put them into fruiting conditions over 2 weeks ago and I’m not seeing any pins develop. I cut holes in the bag for fresh air exchange and mist with water every couple days. Still no signs of growth. Should I transfer them to mono tubs or continue to wait for them to grow in the bag?
Can't say for sure. I would say that growing in bag leaves a good deal of question with regard to the environmental conditions. There could be genetic factors as well. Systematic experimentation in these types of circumstances leads to good education in my experience. Best of luck with your grows!
I got the same grow bag. Its been over a month and I finally transferred it to my monotub. Right now it looks just like your day 5. The colonization period took so long i was worried about contamination, but it's looking really good. The primordia on mine look like these little pointy white thorns. Really cool! I was thinking of misting mine, but there are tons of little micro droplets all over the mycelium, and the internal humidity guage is reading 99%
At the time I put it into fruiting conditions. I don't concern myself with duration of light exposure though, it doesn't really matter. Light isn't required to produce fruits.
Neither one of those bags are ready to fruit. It should be white WHITE. Also...never trust a home grower that claims they're Mycologist. That requires years of actual schooling and literal degrees. No degree...then it's LITERALLY just a home grower. If you see a grow bag....or a grow bag in a fruiting tub....then steer clear of them. 10/10...they're growing mold and literally would pick a poison mushroom in the woods...
Hi there, you seem angry and I'm sorry for that. Life is tough and we all go through struggles that have the potential to edge us closer and closer toward that over time. I'm sending good vibes your way, be well.
When you say “1 substrate bag + added moisture” in the lasagna layering process, do you mean that you inoculated in total three 3lb rye grain bags and used all three in the bulk layering build?
If you leave an all in one bag in the dark long enough, will it begin to pin without any light? Or does it need the 12 hour light a day to begin pinning? ❤
I had an all-in-one bag go into full blown fruiting in the dark without opening the bag at all. In general, mushrooms do not need light at all to grow. Light helps with fruit body color, but it is not a necessity for them to grow.
I heard from another mycooogist that an easy way to rehydrate cakes without dunking is to inject them with 60ml distilled water via a sterile syringe. Great grow!
I have a fully colonized NorthSpore Shroomtek bag in an automated monotub. Temp about 72-74 degrees, humidity held between 90% and 95% with intermittent misting, and onboard fan at about 25%, so I know I have enough free air exchange. My block, with bag top cut off, has stalled at the condition you showed in your 2nd video. Many small golden primordia, but it has been there for over a week. Any ideas what conditions are impeding things, or anything I should change? Thanks
Hmmm, that's a curious situation for sure. I'm not sure I could really troubleshoot that without knowing more. Something basic to think about are the tendencies and preferred conditions for the strain itself, and making sure you're getting your conditions as close as you can to the target. It's my understanding that some strains are very finicky and need a bit more babysitting than others. But even if your strain is more forgiving, the conditions that your telemetry is showing for the monotub could be quite different than what your cake is seeing if it is still inside the bag (since the bag is essentially a self contained environment). If you started with spores, there is also a bit of a lottery that you're at the mercy of when it comes to the actual genetics you're dealing with and their strength/health. If it were me in your situation, I'd probably remove the cake completely from the bag since you're dealing with an automated monotub that can manage the conditions for you. Of course, I am a novice and the issue could be something else altogether. But my rationale would be given your use of an automated monotub, there really isn't any need (in my novice opinion) to keep the cake in the bag. And if the stalling is potentially due to too much moisture, removing the bag is a step in the right direction. At any rate, wishing you luck!
@@ModalMyco Thanks for the reply. Strain is Golden Teacher. I cut the top completely off the bag, and put the rubber band around the bag as people recommend before I put in monotub. Thus the top of the cake is completely open to the tub environment. I have dialed back the humidity target to try and keep between 85% and 90% since what I seem to read is that to create pins, the mycelium needs to feel some evaporation from the surface. Anyway, I will continue to nurse it, the small golden spots seem to be getting larger but very slowly. Would gladly send an image if there is a way to do that. Mycelium looks snow white and beautiful Thanks again
I created LC by cloning a mushroom from this grow and am currently colonizing a NS Shroomtek bag with it. Will have some vids on the cloning/LC process and the NS bag in the future 👍
You don't absolutely need the colonizer lid, but if you use the ventilated lid just make sure to seal the holes until it's ready for fruiting conditions.
Right on brother! Stoked for you. I really love the way you edit, and the dope music that you use. I’ve been digging through a whole bunch of different myco channels, and yours has been one of the best for sure. One thing I hope to see more of in this community is scientific referencing. Several cultivators can be heard on RU-vid making conflicting points, yet they both succeeded. For example, you mentioned misting it lightly to keep the surface conditions, right, however, there’s a really good channel called Mycotrophic where the dude says don’t miss the surface at all, he says, just mist the sides. His flushes are glorious, canopies the Amazon rainforest. There is another channel where the woman says the same thing, (I can’t think of the name.) there are several channels that say lightly missed the top layer of mycelium during fruiting. I used to have The mushroom cultivators handbook by Paul Stamets and I believe he said in there to lightly missed it several times a day. ( I think my mom accidentally threw that book away when I was young, I’m 39 now.) I have been been wanting to get it again, but the vast majority of this information is online. At the end of the day, we just want the most fruit for the least effort, cost and time… in some way. So I guess it would be good if we as a community could really narrow down the best way to do that. I’m thankful to see that you are growing these. The human race needs this medicine, that’s why Satan made it illegal through corrupt politicians, media outlets and officers of the law, who take bribes and lie. Righteous people don’t lie, so in order for this to come to an end, people need to be righteous, they need to fear God. May God have mercy and accomplished this for the glory of God and for the benefit of mankind. Amen Peace, props and blessings to you.
Thanks so much for the kind words, my friend! I'm definitely trying to experiment and find what the best methods are for my grows. Appreciate you watching and chiming in!
Never started soaking the blocks in water for several hours to rehydrate after a full flush? Notice how the mushrooms start only successfully growing at the bottom, because that's still soaked. Clear them, then rehydrate, and get almost full flushes again. Worst thing to do is allow them to dry out. The over-saturated block was most likely stalling from lack of air circulation, and not from excessive water; considering it wasn't sitting in a pool of water and you weren't constantly soaking it. Just my opinion based on watching many of these. I do love your videos. They're not too long at all, with great viewing and on point. Appreciating it. Ty.
@ModalMyco I don't like the idea of rehydration by soaking under water. Seems like it could ruin the whole block, but I watched someone do it with very good 2nd flush results.
@@shaneh1003 I have looked into this quite a bit and there are definitely conflicting opinions on it. Hydration is of course important, but the other side of the equation is the nutrient content of the cake. I haven't posted part 4 of my NS Boomr Bag grow yet, but I did dunk that cake at one point and it did nothing for it. My best guess is that it was because the nutrients were expended.
@@ModalMycoI've seen ppl get a syringe or two with distilled water and inject the cake and seemed to work. I still dunk and feels like that's the way to go. I had two identical cakes side by side,dunked only one and the 2nd flush was just as much as the first. The other cake didnt do as good and dried out eventually
Do you not worry about contamination after starting fruiting conditions? I've repeatedly seen open-air tubs and bags being filmed without any concern for contamination.. I've continued to keep the lid tightly on after starting fruiting conditions, and fashioned a completely metal, tiny fan inside that I can operate from outside the tub; so I get the air circulation/transfer without opening the tub. I also spray 70% isopropyl around the edges of the lid every time because of the air exchange through the cracks under the lid.
At the point where the mycelium has fully colonized, the possibility of contamination is extremely low. The fungus is dominating all of the substrate at that point and it's highly unlikely for anything else to beat it out. The point where contamination risk is the highest is spawn to bulk. You have to be very careful when the substrate is exposed before the mycelium colonizes it.
@ModalMyco Man, thanks for replying so quickly. That is great information. I've seen a few tiny darker spots that just look like uncolonized substrate, but hopefully they're nothing to be concerned about since basically 100% is very healthy and thick mycelium, so that it's very dominant over anything else that could invade. I'm seeing lots of premordia on the entire open surface area. Thanks again for putting my worry at ease.
@user-rq7il1kj1u Yeah, thank you. I'm still trying to be safe, but only half as much effort into keeping everything, including the air, sterile. I had my first very successful staggered flush several days ago (around 50 grams after cracker-dry dehydration), and hopefully have rehydrated the block properly for a second one weeks down the time line. Only complaint I have is the strain not being potent enough, but they were beautiful and plentiful anyways.
I’ve tried different things myself. I got about a lb off 3 3lb bags of grain and 3 5 lb bags of sub mixed in separate bins.I truly believe that is the best method. Good luck with your journey Good video also
Thanks so much, Dean! I definitely had great success with the monotub grow I did after I was finished with these bags, agree with you on that method being better.
Love how you go with your “mistakes” and learn from them. Trying things out is the best way to learn. 1oz total dry weight is just fine. Keep up the videos. They are very helpful
What are the rubber-bands for? My first bag is beginning to pin, or fruit, and trying to find the best thing to do now.. Thanks for sharing your experience.
The rubber bands around the cake help to prevent the sides and bottom from being exposed to oxygen and thereby reduce the likelihood of side pinning. If you get pins on the sides and bottom, they will not be able to develop very well being pressed against the bag. Best of luck with your grow!
@ModalMyco tyvm.. Earlier, I went ahead and put rubber-bands around mine about an inch below the flat top that was made when I mixed the mycelium about a week ago. It's looking very good, as I also cut a slit to allow air in and could see how nicely the mycelium has layered smoothly across the surface. I've been very meticulous with preventing contamination, and controlling atmospheric conditions, so expecting it to turn out quite nicely and professional. All the details have been coming at the perfect time, as me being led to this new "hobby" has. Thanks, again.
