The Honda ST 1100 and 1300 had heat problems and owners wrapped the pipes which lowered the heat a lot, I know it does not look good but has anybody tired that? Thanks
Excellent and fair review. I have a 2021 - and I've had no issues with it. 27,000 miles so far. The picking up issues is a real thing!!! LOL! It took me months to get the technique correct. I was puzzled as to why I could easily pick up mu 860+ pound Ultra Limited but struggled with the 560 pound Pan America. Then I looked at the videos carefully and realized that with the Ultra Limited, if you sit on the seat, you are automatically in the correct position. When lifting. This is not the case with the Pan America. You have to be at a MUCH more canted angle to align properly on the Pan America. In the correct position, your shoulders, hip bones, and ankles are in the same plane. Your knees are bent, and your arms are fully expanded. It does not matter what angle your body is in reference to the ground as long as you maintain that alignment. If you do that, all you have to do is keep your back straight and straighten your legs. The bike pops right up!! And all the work is done by your thighs, with no work done by your back. This works every time - and I'm a small almost 60 year old man with a torn left rotator cuff. It also helps to unload the top box and high side pannier first if you REALLY want to make it effortless. Please try it electively at home. Once you get used to doing that, it will greatly increase your confidence with riding alone off road.
Thanks for posting this. My riding buddies and I are planning on doing the Pick-Axe later this summer. And this is a good way to see what to expect on the Paugh Lake loop. While I find that this doesn't look too hard and look forward to trying it, I can see why it might be intimidating for others, especially on larger, heavier ADVenture bikes.
REALLY GOOD video! I've got the Insta 360 X3, and am planning on picking up the Cardo comms to record my snowmobiling stuff in the Winter, as well as a few other things. I've got a miniscule YT channel myself. I've got a lot of questions about recording with Cardo and the X 3 (if that's even possible, or maybe I need to get the X 4, I don't know). I'd love to talk with you if you'd be willing to, so that I cold pick your brain about this whole thing, as your application is very similar to what I want to do, with the exception of the types of vehicles that we're using.
Actually it’s simple. The Cardo will not record to the X3. If you get a palktalk edge or Pro you can record directly to your phone and sink with your footage in post. If you have questions ask here so others can also learn or interject.
Very very nice review. And your from GTA, that's even better lol, nice to see Toronto Maple Leaves cap on you. Also were you on the 404 going south during the highway footage lol, looked familiar. Liked & Subscribed with notification alert. Lastly, with your video review I'm more confident on purchasing the X4. Time to move on from my GoPro Hero 7 Black.
Great job, great intro. Congratulations! I have exactly the same feeling on my X4 vs my former X3. I drove around France with the X3 on my Tiger 1200(see my channel (subtitled) if you want)but the quality was poor when mixed with my other cameras footage and I sold it despite the great versatility this camera had. Having a trail was giving me so many hooking possibilities that I preferred having more action cams hanging around and better quality . But this year, I changed for a Goldwing to road trip with my wife and the fact is that it’s a nightmare to place a camera on such a bike. Back from Corsica, I bought the X4 . Quality is still not as good as any GoPro, Dji Action, but it’s improved and at least, I’ll benefit from its ease of use. However, Indon’t like the fisheye effects and tiny planet stuff, so I always try to frame as close as possible as a normal camera. You got a new subscriber . ps: I also use the Falcam F22 lock system which is great and quick. I do recommand. Cheers from France. ✌🏼
Bonjour, I speak french so I will definitely check out your channel. I agree it's not the same quality as other action cams but it's now very close and usable. I don't cringe every time I cut to the X4 like I did with the X3. I have hope maybe the OneRS gets an upgrade closing the small quality gap.
Everything was funny and captivating until you showed up next to Harleys atrocity of an adv bike… But all jokes aside these adv bikes are mounting points galore for action cameras… Good stuff my friend ride safe
That atrocity is an awesome bike. You’re right about mounting points, so many. Unfortunately today I dumped the bike and punched a nice dent in the side panel with my small rig magic arm lol. Battle scar.
Great video, liked & subbed. I've been using an Ace Pro and swapping it between pov helmet cam and selfie cam. I want to buy an X4 for its versatility, but I'm leaning towards a second AcePro because the lens distortion will bother me. So my question is, is it possible to reframe X4 selfie cam footage so that it's comparable to the Ace Pro footage in terms of lens distortion? I've uploaded some test footage shot on the Ace Pro (unlisted: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hjDm0sBu4JI.htmlsi=UicgSp8ienU4dyau ).Thanks, Jon
Basically anything in the centre plane of the lens will be normal and like a normal action cam but if you move the lens in the software up or down that is when the distortion happen. Also zoom amount increases or decrease the fisheye effect. To get more technical the camera automatically fixes on the horizon, on that horizon locked part of the image it will look like a normal camera but if you reframe up or down that is when the horizon bows or fisheye effect becomes noticeable. Let say you are shooting yourself from the bars like the video you linked. When you frame the shot in the software, because the camera is lower then your eyeline when you reframe the shot to place yourself nicely in frame it will bow the horizon but you can zoom in and things will look more normal but resolution starts to worsen. It's a game with this camera with framing and resolution retention. So to answer the question, yes you can totally get a normal looking shot with the X4 but your camera placement is very important to get that look. Hope that helped.
Thanks @@AlexUlleri for taking the time to explain how to work with a duel lens to get the shots I lean towards. Very helpful. I look forward to your next video (maybe on this topic)?! Cheers, Jon
Everything Alex said is spot on. The x4 shines in quality only when using max fov imo. Zooming in things get soft and pixelated quickly compared to Ace pro.
Thanks for confirming @@andreas9119 I'm leaning towards a second Ace Pro because my sub conscious brain values image quality over 'reframe' versatility and the fun of a duel lens. Cheers
For video the X4 is great. I found using it for pictures awkward and didn't like the results but I didn't do a lot so maybe there is something there but I use my phone or the Sony A6700 for pics.
Thank you for doing this review. I am looking to drop the hammer on a used PA, but it is intimidating when there are tons of them for sale, with low mileage, and 10k less than what they sold for new a year ago. Makes my wallet get real nervous.
It’s because apple CarPlay would take up the whole screen and by law you need gauges. You would not have speed, rpm, gears etc. the bike would need a second screen or a much bigger one. Old gen touring had analog gauges and the new screens are massive and CarPlay takes up only half the screen.
I thought same thing with the head light not enough or maybe i need to adjust it good thing i dont ride much at night, what about fuel pump have you had to replace it?
Question for you, I'm a rider in Kentucky and I ride year round want a Pan American for the weather, touring and eventually going out west to moto camp. I see a lot of European riders like the ADV bike for weather. Do you think this is a good choice. Thank you for your review of your bike.
I think when it comes to weather it's more about the gear you wear than the bike, although it is a factor. It just so happens that most ADV riders dress for all conditions due to the type of riding we do. That being said the bike does have a bit to do with it. Most ADV motorcycles have advanced rider aids that help a lot for varying conditions, plush suspension and good carrying capacity. Their versatility is what makes them so popular for weather and terrain. From what you have described as your ridding needs yes the Pan-Am or any large ADV would be great for that. Especially the camping.
Hello, I have a problem that after connecting the Insta360 x4 camera with Cardo Edge to record a group conversation, it does not synchronize the sound with the film, i.e. in the editing process the sound is randomly shifted in time relative to the film, and with very long recordings at the end of the film the sound is as if sped up several times. Why is this happening. Best regards.
It's not abnormal for devices not using timecode to go out of sync over time, especially over bluetooth. The speed problem is beyond my technical expertise though. Hopefully someone sees this and has an explanation. I'd hit up Cardo tech support to see if they have an idea.
Hello, as someone who owns a Pan Am and works there, I bought my 2023 sportster S September last year and was given a freedom promise trade in by september this year. I’ve got 5.3k miles on her right now, but I’d like to start going 50/50 off road. is it worth it trading for a Pan Am?
I am not sure what a freedom promise is but if you want to do off-road switching to a Pan-Am is a great idea. I always suggest test riding the bike to make sure it's the right fit first but if you like Sportster S you will love the Pan-Am, it handles better, has better suspension, more power, is more comfortable and versatile.
QUESTION?? I've rode for years, my last bike was a '98 Softtail Springer, which I loved, but after an injury and having 5 back surgeries, one day of riding would leave me laid up hurting for the next 3+ days, I'm wanting to go back to riding, and heard good things about the Pan Am.. would it be a comfortable ride after having my surgeries?
Hmm, hard to say. What I can say is this. The Pan-Am has a upright sitting position, so it's easy to take pressure off your tailbone if needed. The suspension can be very plush and takes bumps much better than Harley's traditional suspension. Seat is plush as well. That being said it may not work due to your surgeries. My suggestion is to find a good dealer that will let you take the bike out for an hour and see how it feels or if you are in the States rent one from Eagle Rider to get a longer ride to see what a day in the saddle is like. Hope that helps
I will 100% buy a bike with airbox under the tank that I can daily ride in heavy rain than the typical open air filter on harley's. Hence why I traded in my street bob. I can go to work in sun, and have to ride home in downpours, and an air filter sock can't cut it
Yeah that's a good point. I went on a trip with my Street Bob and forgot the sock and nearly drowned my bike in heavy rain. It was sputtering down the road losing power. We survived, barely.
I turn on all my recorders, visual and audio, and honk my horn a few times. I line everything up in post using the audio peaks. I have a video on this channel called "Multicam" explaining it in more detail if you want to know more. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8bbV3Dliyvg.html
The PanAm is a big dirt bike. I can ride mine like a 900cc mid size. I don’t weigh my bike down with giant block luggage. My PanAm will spank any other full sized ADV bike off road.
Great review and testing. Surprising how good the dual audio conversation recording is but overlaying the little bit of background bike noise improves the overall audio massively! The Cardo noise cancelling is too strong so just hearing your voice makes it sound unrealistic.
Nice job highlighting the tough part in white at the video start. I missed that detail, went up from the east and thought they must have really developed these roads! Hit the start of the trail portion and turned back. I was on my own and it had rained all day, I've gotten stuck in lesser conditions. I turned back then cut west on Paugh lake road which is a nice little loop of its own
Your welcome. We did the same thing, got surprised by the tough section but we were in it so we ended up finishing it. Definitely not a section to try alone. You made the right call.
Great video! I've been doing a lot of audio experiments with the DJI Osmo, DJI Mic2, Insta360 Ace Pro and the Cardo. The DJI mic 2 creates a horrible interference problem with the cardo. Weeks of tech support with DJI couldn't solve it. 😢 Did you find that with the Rode? I'm using the Insta / Cardo Mesh technique now but it's very quiet. It requires quite a gain boost in post. Do you find this? How do you sync your engine audio to your vids? ☺️
Hi, thanks for watching. The Rode Pro is clean and sits right beside the Cardo on my helmet. No audio issues from any source. I have yet to ride with the Cardo linked to the X4 because of user error turning on the app record feature or my GPS or phone switching mic settings once I turn the bike on. I'll be making an X4 review next and work out the kinks. When it comes to sinking all the audio tracks, once all the cameras and recorders are running I honk my horn a few times and in post sync the peaks. If you watch my multicam video I go into detail on the process.
@AlexUlleri how tall are you? I'm 5'6" and sat on the PamAm @Daytona. I'm looking at the CVO and I tried to schedule test rides at two Harley Dealers but did not get a callback. How difficult is it to get it up on the kickstand? I heard what you said in the video, just trying to gauge if it's going to be impossible for me to get the PamAm up on the kickstand. Thanks in advance. If anyone else has any advice other than stretching my legs or boots with heels, I'd appreciate it 😂.
Couple things. First, Harley has a low seat. A low seat will drop you another inch. Second Kodlin USA make drop kits for the Pan-Am lowering it another 2in in the back and you can drop the front in the triple clamp to compensate.
Very well done! I purchased my first H-D touring machine in 1975, a ‘71 FLH and I’ve had an H-D touring machine since then. In 2021 I bought a 1250S and I’m absolutely smitten with this machine…yeah, it’s been a little fussy, but after 11k miles it’s never left me walking. There is an H-D TSB that will sort out these early machines.
I was so excited about this bike. Was #1 on the wait list when they first came in. Electrical and battery issues were annoying but bearable. After two years of ownership, and really wanting to LOVE this bike, the negatives finally won out and I traded it in for a KTM 890 Adventure. It has been an adventure.....
I purchased a 21 Pan Am and had no real issues with it but there were glitches here and there. Sold the bike in 2023 and purchased the 2024 Pan Am. Night and day difference in the bikes. No electrical issues, glitches, or problems. The rear brake works now. All in all I would say the first year bike was not quite as refined as the 2024. This bike is just a blast to ride. By far one of the best motorcycles I've owned. If I had to have one thing negative to say, it would be the tail light is a joke. Small and barely visible when you have the tail pack on. Almost immediately installed the Denali tail/brake light plate kit and this really improved visibility from the rear.
@@khakimzhanmiras when I had the stock windshield I did not have problem with it. Maybe the rental unit had loose one. It should not rattle. I’d go test ride a new one from a dealer.
I own 1250S 2021 , and I'm really happy with that. This thing is highly recommended . In my opinion PanAmerica is much better then BMW GS , or Honda Affrica . Engine is masterpiece, suspension is unbelievable. This bike worth it's money, for sure.
Thanks for the review. Have a 2021 PA-special love everything but the Seat/Instrument Cluster & Mapping-0/charging ports-0 Looking at a saddlemen seat and trying to locate a good connection for the funky plugs user the seat to run phone and accessory charging up at bars... Any suggestions? What are you running for mapping in video and bracketed? Different windscreen? thanks Side Note - Easy to do your own updates from H-D I recommend everyone keep them up to date...
The usbc port on the side of the tower does charge phones. If yours doesn’t work get it checked. I have the alumacycle gps holder installed to hold my Garmin Zumo xt. Windshield is the Harley short one.
@@AlexUlleri This USBC doesn't charge / only works when the bike is in accessory mode - not there for charging. There are 2 weird plugs under the seat to run accessories on these bikes. Thanks for the reply and info
@@kmern6979 it does work for charging when the bike is running. The two under the seat are typically used for heated gear and only work with the bike turned on. You can convert those to sae connector to run usb
Excellent review of an awesome bike. This ride is always a thrill. No issues with reliability. My only problem has been a bad battery on the key fob. I agree it would be great to see the Motor Company put more advertising and dealer training behind it. There should be an adventure display, clothing, parts and bikes in every dealer.