this is an all time banger. doesn't get the love it deserves, imo. also, great work getting and syncing the score. i love listening to this piece, handel version then schoenberg version. movement by movement. the original is good, and then listening to how schoenberg changed it. so fun. for me, Schoenberg version all the way.
As has been pointed out in the description Schoenberg was quite free in his adaptation of Handel's concerto grosso. It was a starting point in the same way as hymn tunes were a starting point for Bach's Chorale Preludes or Paganini was starting point for Listz. The Handel and the Schoenberg are quite different works and just drawing a comparison between the two is probably missing the point. Schoenberg was writing this in 1933 and it's very much of its time - some of that quartet writing is very modernist. As for it being "trash" - well, that's not a word I'd use about a piece of music without trying to understand it first.
@@andrewlord5615 I understand it quite well and the point. Schoenberg actually disparaged the original Handel fugue, comparing it poorly to any Bach fugue with its lack of melodic interest and simplistic design, so one of his ideas was to incorporate it into a 'new work' as to make up useful to that conception. However, what is extraordinary about the Handel fugue is not its melodic contour per se but its rhythmic drive, entirely original on the part of Handel, and something unique to the Baroque period. Rhythm not being one of Schoenberg's fortes (that was left to Stravinsky to develop and lift up to the same level of importance as harmony and melody), he missed that very thing which was extraordinary in the Handel. The resulting Schoenberg work is not extraordinary in any way except for the difficulty in the execution of the quartet part. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jOC3oxgu67w.html&ab_channel=SirNevilleMarriner-Topic
I hadn't heard of his passing. Very sad... He has been a long time favorite contemporary composer of mine. His very distinctive musical voice, full of wit and inventiveness, was always a pure joy to behold. If you haven't gotten to know his music yet, I envy you; you're in for a treat.
Schoenberg's music and career generally is an interesting challenge from an historiographical point of view. He is an enormously talented composer and teacher--he could do basically anything, including this transformation of Baroque music, but also the creation of an entirely new non-tonal way of composing. I have always loved the eerie expressionism of his earlier music, say from op 11 to his first twelve-tone works. Yet he has never been popular. And likely never will be. And so what?
It clearly shows how Schönberg actually goods at, rejecting people who said his music has anything but noises. Previously made score video for his Cello Concerto after Monn, pretty much shown his string writings, which is pretty damn amazing!
I guess that the tonal music in Schoenberg, was a personal experiment to hear his music in an “old fashion” mode, I am over simplifying, my comment is probably a bit naive.
@@Synthetic-Chord @saratei99 Schoenberg writes his orchestral stuff in C. This includes octave transposing instruments like Contrabass and piccolo, and others like clarinets, trumpets and horns. He is not the only one that thought this was a more efficient system. I think Prokofiev used the same system
Interesting piece, I had no idea Schoenberg transcribed more stuff than the orchestration of Brahms' First Piano Quintet. I think the recording is a tad weird though... the way that the string quartet is miked very closely and the orchestra is very hollow in comparison, it's almost sounds like they are recorded separately and pasted together xD
I like that the quartet is close-miked, its a lot more direct. I would agree about the orchestra being hollow. You can also tell its been spliced together at a few points.
Wow! It feels like the piece is being constructed in Schubert's imagination, slowly taking form, but never truly being concrete as the mind is as fluid and volatile as water 🌊
One of the greatest, most ingenious masterpieces I’ve ever heard! Schoenberg always surprising , some of the most exquisite OG MUSIC - Composition technique is delicious !!! Schoenberg casually being a GOAT, AND IM TODAY YEARS OLD!!!
Interesting. Actually never heard of this. When you think about this idea - big contemporary name version of old classics - it could've been performance success on the level of Britten's guide or Pulcinella. But it remained a complete obscurity. Maybe... just maybe... when composers like this are pushed to compose conventional structures and orchestrations it reveals serious lack of discipline and craft which is so easily concealed behind their avant-guard techniques.
@@frederickthegreat4801 i had an option to leave it and i did. Deal with it. Ironically not many people clicked on this video in the first place which is symbolic of Schoenberg polularity in general :-)
