Technique may not have been 100% perfect every time but listen at 0:15 and 0:42. Those are actually really good sounding chirps on a fox 40. Besides, it’s a tutorial, not a game.
Ball stuck in goalkeeper's equipment - penalty corner. In what I like to think of as saner times, this generally no fault occurrence (we are not talking about a goalie catching and hold the ball) resulted in a restart with a bully 5m from the circle. Why the change? A bully wasn't considered exciting enough, and more penalty corners lead to more goals being scored. Is that fair? No, but who cares about fair? The same thing has happened with accidental deflections of the ball up off goalkeeping equipment that may have fallen in a way that led to dangerous contesting for the ball. Game stopped, and penalty corner awarded (or worse, allow the dangerous play to occur and then penalise), when it used to be a bully restart. Deflections up off defenders' sticks are treated in the same way, penalty corner. Not entirely fair when a close range shot at the goal may be travelling at a velocity in excess of 100kph. Isn't that dangerous? Yes, often, but don't try to convince anybody of that.
Hey Ive got my first winter hockey games tomorrow to umpire (Ive done like 6 games of summer hockey before) and I was wondering if anyone knew and could help me with how to remember the stick checks and obstruction rules and mainly when I have to call them. Also this is a whole grading carnival so any advice I get would be greatly aprreciated
Obstruction is obstruction... players are not allowed to obstruct with their stick or their bodies. A "stick check" is usually obstruction but if it happens off ball, than it is personal misconduct. A stick check within proximity to the ball is obstruction AND should be carded too. Are you/were you also a player?
Great video...but...the ball doesn't have to be passed 'hard' you are not allowed to go through the player. If the channel is blocked or occupied, then you need to find another way around and not through.
This looks like part of a penalty stroke shootout. What happens if there is a penalty stroke awarded in regular play (during the game) and the shot is saved/deflected into the field? Are the rest of the players beyond the 23m line allowed to resume play immediately like in soccer, or is it ruled dead with a 16m restart for the defending team?
@@crismaloney Understood, but if the shot is saved/deflected back into the field of play, can the rest of the players then enter the 23, or is it ruled dead with a 16m restart?
@@nazcasteve In no circumstance during a penalty stroke can other players approach. Not even the attacker taking the stroke can approach once the shot has been taken. When it is over, goal/no goal, the other players can cross the 23.
@@crismaloney I'm not getting my question across properly - I want to understand your final sentence regarding when it is *over*, not during. If the shot is saved/deflected by the goalie, does this effectively mean the penalty is over, and normal plays resumes, i.e. all other players can cross the 23, and try to play the rebound, defend etc.? I had one umpire tell me if the shot does not go in, the ball is restarted at the 16m by the defending team. This would imply normal play with all other players crossing the 23 does not resume if the shot doesn't go in
@@nazcasteve Hi Steve - Sorry. The penalty strokes ends when the ball goes into the goal or does not go into the goal, goes out of bounds, or comes to rest any place in the field of play. So, the ball deflects off the goalkeeper and stops, no goal, no follow up shots… and yes, play is restarted with a free hit (or free push indoors) just outside the circle in front of the goal. At that point, the players can go anywhere they’re normally allowed to go.
I think it would be very helpful to make a note of the players number when a card is given. It would also be particularly helpful to note what the offence was ie dissent, foul play, etc, then if this player commits the same offence on a second yellow card, the app should alert you to a 2nd yellow, red card offence. Otherwise the app looks great.
You can enter a player’s number. If you watch the video again you can see where it says ENTER SHIRT NUMBER (for cards and for goals) but I skipped right by that. It is absolutely better to enter the number and I should have included that. My bad!
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ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6SAw2XUSY8o.html Can anyone explain to me why the action at 1:02 that results in the ball being knocked into the D for the attacker to score is a legal action of a swinging stick
The first I think is a PC - batted off the baseline - body position - only one way that ball was going. 2 - i am actually not convinced thats a pc - it looks like a full turned foot block rather than kick - so it rebounds off rather than is kicked off. 3 looks like a bit of an attempt to block that sort of goes wrong and is deflected off legs - so long corner
Because this is specifically covered in the rules, the answer would be no. Even if somehow the goalkeeper was so amazingly skilled as to intentionally get the ball caught in their protective equipment, the rule says that the penalty is a penalty corner. It would be like changing some other rule that is detailed in the book. Like making the goalkeeper go up to the centerline if they enter the circle early on a penalty corner... because the umpire says that they did it intentionally. Too bad. The rule specifies that someone else goes... THAT is the penalty. Not a card. Not the goalkeeper goes. And, not a PS if the ball gets stuck in the goalkeeper's protective equipment.
@@UmpireHockey What is even worse is that in saner times a ball lodged in the equipment of any player would have resulted in a restart with a bully for a no fault stoppage. There is no reason that this sort of incident (and a few others that are now dealt with by penalty corner) could not be resolved with a restart for the attacking team on the 23m line. Any ball off the pitch over the base-line from a defender's stick, and also a high rebound of the ball off equipment, that was not of itself directly dangerous to another player, are two examples. Will these two umpires learn from this? Probably not, they would likely have though it impertinent of a player to ask them to look at the text of the Rule. They are both far to old to be learning Rule basics.
the shot is fine by me, its a push so it can be raised. 9.9 Players must not intentionally raise the ball from a hit except for a shot at goal. A raised hit must be judged explicitly on whether or not it is raised intentionally. It is not an offence to raise the ball unintentionally from a hit, including a free hit, anywhere on the field unless it is dangerous. If the ball is raised over an opponent’s stick or body on the ground, even within the circle, it is permitted unless judged to be dangerous. however the injection is foul because the attacker that inject the ball played it twice. 13.3.j - after playing the ball, the attacker taking the push or hit from the back-line must not play the ball again or approach within playing distance of it until it has been played by another player.
@@rhyangriffiths5398 13.3.j - after playing the ball, the attacker taking the push or hit from the back-line must not play the ball again or approach within playing distance of it until it has been played by another player.
@@rhyangriffiths5398 yes. if the injector stop after the first contact, the defending player can reach to the ball faster than any other attacker player.
Agreed about the insertion, play should have been whistled right then for a double touch. However, for the scoop shot on the cage, even though it's not a hit, I would consider that dangerous (as an aside, this is Exhibit A for why all corner defenders should be wearing face masks)
It is a sliding tackle that has grounded a player. It is a 10 min yellow card at the minimum. It doesn't matter weather or not the defender got the ball first she still took the other player to ground.
I don't see how calling obstruction an impedance event (conflating it with the never employed Rule 9.4) is going to change the current inability of umpires to see obstructions. What is obstruction? Generally (when committed by a ball-holder) it is the illegal prevention of a legitimate tackle. This prevention is usually achieved by shielding the ball with the body or stick from an opponent who is within playing distance of the ball AND demonstrating an intent to play at the ball. i.e. trying to tackle or to reach a position from which a tackle may be made. A legitimate tackle is one that is made legally i.e. without breaching Rule 9.13, which not only forbids physical contact but even the making of a tackle attempt when physical contact will be caused by the attempt. A very severe and totally unnecessary Rule (because Rule 9.3 already prohibits all physical contact and because Rule 9.13 is used in a way that nullifies Rule 9.12 and makes tackling a ball shielding player an impossibility).
Is there any doubt that a penalty stroke can come along with a card ? Of course not, why should it ? Anyhow, the injury is the fault of the player. Wearing an appropriate jersey instead of those ugly shoulderfree ones could have prevent it. Don't forget, we are no basketball players !!
For some offences, a PS and a card should be awarded. I agree with you that the injury is the fault of the player. But anyhow, pushing a player to ground is still an offence
Yes. There are many reasons that a PS can be called. Not all of those reasons are in this video. It isn’t a video tutorial of all reasons one might see a penalty stroke awarded. It is a video about the coach’s behavior and why some umpires don’t card such be behavior.
@@crismaloney, it's not the coach that you card anyway, its the captain. in that case, if I were umpiring id green card the captain if it was the first issue I had with the coach if it was the second or more id Yellow card the captain for team misconduct.
@@rhyangriffiths5398 A fault of the video is that it doesn't highlight that the competition taking place was under the governance of the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS) rules. In NFHS games, the umpires are not allowed to card captains for things for which captains are usually held accountable (the whole point of having captains is lost). Instead, umpires are to hold coaches accountable. Within this governance structure the coach who came on the field and interrupted the play should have been immediately given a green card for delay of game and if the coach did not instantly turn around and leave the field, the red card should be used. All that said, whether to card the coach vs the captain or to give a green, yellow, or red, is not the ask ("Why Umpires Don't Card Coaches") of the video. The video asks us to consider why didn't a carding happen? The video provides the answer. It says that there is a structure in place that creates a systemic problem that limits the likelihood of the umpire using the tools they have to penalize misconduct.
You can't give a PC for an offence that happened after the whistle blew. It's a personal foul against the player (green card), and the you carry on with the free hit from outside the 23m area.
As a goalie I would not haha. I love shootouts, but I think a PC goal is just as valuable as a field goal. Some teams' strengths are their PCs while others rely on their field play - in this case you'd be benefiting the latter. I also think that PCs can be good, because instead of having shooters take shots from places they shouldn't(crowded areas, bad angles, etc.), having them try to earn a corner off a foot it much safer.
Red card, the player changed the line of her run to move back across onto a collision course with the defender so it was a deliberate action, clearly a high chance of causing injury.
the knock away was deliberate and took place inside the 23 therefore a PC should be given (its also an upgrade from the free hit). Verbal warning only needed as the PC is enough of a penalty but any subsequent knock away take place then a card should be used.
