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Reflections on the coronation
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Год назад
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@tenniskinsella7768
@tenniskinsella7768 4 часа назад
Two horrible people
@fatoujammeh5069
@fatoujammeh5069 6 часов назад
I blame them both Harry is a idiot
@marydickerson4930
@marydickerson4930 21 час назад
I had hoped that this podcas would’ve been a little more unbiased than it seemed to come across. At the end of the day it still sounds like Harry and Meghan are being blamed for making a decision that was safe for their family. He is the second son he didn’t have the same obligations as William if he felt that this was the right thing to do for him and his family Then so be it. They couldn’t win! Either they couldn’t take money from the royal family if they weren’t working for them, but then they were looked down at for making their own money. I’m sure there were shortcomings on both sides. I just wish there would’ve been a little bit more on this podcast about where the Royal family or the firm failed Harry and Meghan as well.
@mollydion8311
@mollydion8311 День назад
Yes, recollections of the truth & liars recollections do vary greatly.
@titamari5660
@titamari5660 День назад
Messy took advantage of Harry’s stupidity
@MarySeacole-bs3gt
@MarySeacole-bs3gt День назад
They are not receiving you taxpayer money. They are engaging in a very American way to generate money, it's called "WORK". Something your free loading welfare RF knows nothing about.
@memoriesarewhatmakeuswhowe6820
So RHG, is it OK for capitalists to sell out their family's or companies' secrets to others for money and personal gain?
@royalhistorygeeks6034
@royalhistorygeeks6034 День назад
I think we cover this pretty throughly in the episode.
@diannemartinez5284
@diannemartinez5284 День назад
Harry and meghan didn't trash the royal family, they stated what had really happened to them instead of letting the palace and the uk media trash them by saying this is what had happened. They stood up for themselves and I'm proud of harry and Meghan!!
@gamera2020
@gamera2020 День назад
They accused them of racism and then backpeddled over and over. They have been caught in so many lies they wouldn't know the truth if it bit them.
@royalhistorygeeks6034
@royalhistorygeeks6034 День назад
I don’t think we accused them of “trashing the Royal family” but I appreciate there’s sometimes a difference between how things are intended and how they come across. They do have every right to tell their story. In this case, they chose to earn considerable sums of money through telling it. I don’t think that’s wrong, but it is clearly going to invite scrutiny. However, it is possible to share your story without telling the world that your father does embarrassing exercises in his underwear. Or without saying that your brother no longer resembles your deceased mother. I think it is comments like this that will make rebuilding trust difficult.
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 День назад
What Charles used to desire is not important. If the first two mixed race children of the family are deprived of titles they were potentially up for, it looks awful. Optics matter, my sweet summer children. These people are too stupid to rule. That’s the problem with Royals. Merit has nothing to do with it, and these people are stuoid.
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 День назад
Oh. We’re still pretending the Oprah interview was shocking? That a family we knew was racist behaved like racists? How cute.
@memoriesarewhatmakeuswhowe6820
People in the UK can buy pseudo-tiles. People in American can buy various college degrees. Both types are no different than people who wear military honors without earning them in real military service. Fake titles; fake degrees; fake military service.
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 День назад
You’re basically describing a society too immature, as late as 2020, to handle a man moving for his wife. And it’s not actually much more complicated than that.
@royalhistorygeeks6034
@royalhistorygeeks6034 День назад
@@SuperStella1111 no one seemed to have a problem with Prince Philip moving for his wife in the 1950s. I think there’s a little more to the public reaction than that
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 День назад
I’m commenting as things are said: Dan Wootten was given the news that they wanted to leave (likely by his KP contacts, briefing against Harry - check out Byline Times) and was going to publish. That forced their hand.
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 День назад
I find the contention Harry and Meghan have “doors open” for being Royal is funny. Most Royals are not A-listers. HE IS THE SON OF THE MOST FAMOUS WOMAN WHO EVER LIVED. He will always have a platform BECAUSE OF HIS MOTHER, not the Royals. No one cares about the Remoaner Royals who don’t have a Diana connection. They are boring, unimportant. DIANA is the source of Harry’s prominence.
@royalhistorygeeks6034
@royalhistorygeeks6034 День назад
@@SuperStella1111 and remind me how Diana came to prominence…?
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 День назад
Don’t talk to me like I’m stupid, or patronize me. She married an adulterer in the family. That no longer matters. To say she wasn’t important in her own right is just misogyny. ​@@royalhistorygeeks6034
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 День назад
@@royalhistorygeeks6034 didn’t like a woman telling you off? Weak.
@cheechalker8430
@cheechalker8430 2 дня назад
“Recollections may vary” Best Line Ever
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 День назад
Not reallly. A woman went to do an interview, described terrifying partum depression, and they couldn’t even express empathy. It showed how unfeeling and racist they were. Harry was always going to bolt. That’s the only point that matters.
@cheechalker8430
@cheechalker8430 День назад
@@SuperStella1111 ha ha Racism Hilarious Sorry - it’a 2024 and the race card has finally been used up!
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 День назад
@@cheechalker8430 as I said. It was unsophisticated and appeals to rubes like you.
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 День назад
@@cheechalker8430 yes, racism is hilarious. Thank you for making my point.
@cheechalker8430
@cheechalker8430 День назад
@@SuperStella1111 the fact you believe MM was the victim of racism is what is hilarious And also that you believe she was pregnant
@lilinee3jeany865
@lilinee3jeany865 2 дня назад
Give the world a break with those traitors
@jennifergonzales8002
@jennifergonzales8002 2 дня назад
She curtesy’s in Suits so Yes she did know how to!
@jeanettehasley7054
@jeanettehasley7054 6 часов назад
Exactly. Not an editing issue. She lied.
@davidvoelkel8392
@davidvoelkel8392 3 дня назад
Facts matter, opinions are just that.
@RichardTClark396
@RichardTClark396 4 дня назад
He was illegitimate he was son of an archer in 1441 while the KING was away fighting.
@dc7117
@dc7117 5 дней назад
How was Buckingham Margaret Beaufort's nephew? I thought she was an only child.
@royalhistorygeeks6034
@royalhistorygeeks6034 5 дней назад
@@dc7117 nephew from her marriage to Henry Stafford. She wasn’t an only child though. She had many half-siblings via her mother.
@juanitaswearingen3520
@juanitaswearingen3520 6 дней назад
I was disappointed in her conclusions. She only provided evidence that supported her love of Richard III. She dismissed or ignored evidence to the contrary.
@jujubees5855
@jujubees5855 6 дней назад
Plebs should not publish books on ideas Above Their Stations and leave history to the Proper People. Theoretical thought should only be provided by the Betters with proper educational credentials pushing the pre-approved subject matter carefully chosen to keep the Betters. 🤡
@royalhistorygeeks6034
@royalhistorygeeks6034 6 дней назад
No one in this video has said that.
@mothermovementa
@mothermovementa 25 дней назад
Its literally butchering somebody's character
@donomar8517
@donomar8517 Месяц назад
Henry 7th is the main suspect, in my opinion
@ginalopez9047
@ginalopez9047 2 месяца назад
I strongly believe that Richard kill then I don’t believe she or her son had anything to do with it but i can understand why people believe that in a way but 100% Richard did something to them there is a small chance they died from sickness but why did Richard not say anything if that was the case sadly not many children survived to adulthood it would be tragic but not a shocked hopefully we get answers how they died I do believe they need the king permission to examine their bodies I believe idk I could be wrong great video tho lol
@lisaeriksson1081
@lisaeriksson1081 2 месяца назад
5:25
@richardpearce1114
@richardpearce1114 3 месяца назад
There's a new portrait of Richard III being displayed at the National Portrait Gallery. The curators there believe that although it is not contemporary it is based on a contemporary portrait. And in that portrait you can really see that Richard and Edward look like brothers.
@richardpearce1114
@richardpearce1114 3 месяца назад
Intelligent thoughtful questions and answers. Fascinating thank you.
@biancabrookes5731
@biancabrookes5731 6 месяцев назад
I thought about Catherine Pare getting pregnant by Thomas Seymour. At this point I think Henry VIII was important.
@pamelaoliver8442
@pamelaoliver8442 6 месяцев назад
🏰🏵️🧭📝
@pamelaoliver8442
@pamelaoliver8442 6 месяцев назад
I've just stumbled across the chamnel. How I'm not sure. Great interview!
@michellerhodes9910
@michellerhodes9910 6 месяцев назад
Tremendous interview. I will look up the book.
@1jsmelton
@1jsmelton 6 месяцев назад
MB was so obsessed with her son becoming king that she extended the War of the Roses instead of accepting peace under Richard's rule. She allied with Buckingham, she made an alliance with Elizabeth Woodville and she helped make it possible for her son to invade England, thus inciting another battle. If she did this don't think she couldn't have gotten access into the tower. Of course she wouldn't have personally killed them. And back then no one believed a woman was capable of anything. We don't know what happened but she is definitely a suspect. Things definitely worked out in her favor by causing people to suspect Richard, thus backing her son. Elizabeth Woodville would have never agreed to the marriage had she not thought her sons were dead so another point for Margaret. Her son legitimized his wife to strengthen his claim and in doing so, the princes had to be out of the picture or he would have had no claim. I believe M Beaufort, Richard and Buckingham are all three viable suspects. It's only my opinion but this video gave no strong evidence of her innocence. She was one obsessed woman with enough money and influence to make her dangerous.
@jessicaliddell5429
@jessicaliddell5429 5 месяцев назад
💯 agree I believe MB convinced Buckingham into manipulating Richard - at any rate there is something so Lancastrian about it - I have the sixth sense and whenever I think about this I get chills in my body - my gut feeling the Lancastrians were involved with this - am still trying to figure out how
@emmastinylibrary
@emmastinylibrary 7 месяцев назад
Great interview. I had the pleasure of meeting Alison this week for the Lichfield Literature Festival and she astounded me with her amazing knowledge and confidence on stage.
@gggggggg-fv2xb
@gggggggg-fv2xb 9 месяцев назад
Wasn't Margaret's official reason for going along with the marriage of her son to E. of York to finally unite previously rival families? But could she have also realized that if the princes in the t. ever showed up later, that E. of Y. wouldn't have admitted to recognizing them because that would cause her to sacrifice her position as queen to become just another sister of a king?
@royalhistorygeeks6034
@royalhistorygeeks6034 9 месяцев назад
I think it’s very likely that Margaret believed Richard had the boys killed in 1483, so I doubt that particular scenario was one she worried about.
@youtuber5305
@youtuber5305 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for your quick and informative reply.
@alisonridout
@alisonridout 9 месяцев назад
Watching this 18th January (2024) on the anniversary of Henry and Elizabeth's marriage
@laurabrowning7973
@laurabrowning7973 9 месяцев назад
Thomas More got his account of the confessions of Tyrell and Dighton from John Morton. Morton was a known and sworn enemy of Richard. Morton was also More's mentor; he had lived with Morton for several years when he was young. No copies of these confessions exist. Dighton was allowed to roam free for the rest of his life - odd for someone who had committed regicide. Also, Henry Vll never made any proclamation of these confessions which would have cleared up the mystery and secured his throne. In addition, the charge for Tyrell's execution was 'aiding Edmund de la Pole'. No mention was made of his conspiring to assassinate the young king and his brother, a royal prince. More never completed or published his 'History' during his lifetime. Instead, his nephew completed it, edited it, and rewrote portions of what More had written.
@laurabrowning7973
@laurabrowning7973 9 месяцев назад
I really enjoyed this conversation, but I think I must've missed some of it...When the video starts, one gentleman is already talking and then it ends abruptly. Is it supposed to only be 8 minutes long?
@royalhistorygeeks6034
@royalhistorygeeks6034 9 месяцев назад
Thank you. It’s part of the first full episode from the coronation catastrophes podcast series - full ep on the channel.
@heartofoak45
@heartofoak45 9 месяцев назад
I think part of the explanation as to why her extravagance was not really questioned was that it was collective gratitude of the country for her personal contribution to the war effort in maintaining morale but perhaps more importantly her obvious support and back-up of the King during this period without which he wouldn't have been so effective. To illustrate his commitment please read accounts of the King's gruelling and dangerous visits to the theatre of war in North Africa and Malta in 1943 after the victory at El Alamein.
@kathleenmcdonald6641
@kathleenmcdonald6641 7 месяцев назад
I couldn't agree with you more.The Queen Mother was beloved by the people.To my eyes she was the power behind the throne. Thank God for her. I am sure she had faults as we all do. Strong willed and loyal she loved her country and the people.
@maryloumawson6006
@maryloumawson6006 9 месяцев назад
I forget who said it but she was once described as "a marshmallow made on a welding machine." Great interview, thank you!
@mariannehancock8282
@mariannehancock8282 10 месяцев назад
It's an extremely perverse hypothesis. We know Richard killed their maternal uncle, their half brother, and Hastings in what looks like a planned coup. It is rational to assume he did it. The only other feasible candidate is Buckingham, I feel, and even that's an outlier.
@mariannehancock8282
@mariannehancock8282 10 месяцев назад
We can infer she didn't enjoy sex with him for she asked in a a preserved book of hours or some such if it was sinful to dislike your marital duty. In her later translation of Thomas a Kempis, she mentioned 'lecherye' as something that was 'filthy' and best outgrown. It is possible she felt differently about him after his death though. As you say, even at the time he was considered a disgrace. But we do hear about trauma bonding.
@therealuncleowen2588
@therealuncleowen2588 10 месяцев назад
Well, the famous painting shows that she wasn't ugly. If we're being judgy, her chin was big and she wasn't conventionally cute. That's a long way from being ugly.
@shyhand1
@shyhand1 10 месяцев назад
What about the people who said they saw Arthur with an erection, what about the people who said Arthur said I've been in the midst of Spain, If that doesn't sound like somebody who did the deed
@katescrimgeour3884
@katescrimgeour3884 10 месяцев назад
I never miss a chance to listen to Gareth Russell - such a knowledgeable and fascinating historian. I loved his book about Catherine Howard - in fact I have already read it twice and just today I was looking at it thinking I might read it again. Thank you for this - I have just discovered your podcast and am enjoying going through all your videos.
@adamlieber6835
@adamlieber6835 Год назад
Hey very interesting chat guys, thanks. But I think you're missing something about the Crawford book. I agree that the revelation of intimate details of their family life must have felt like a real violation to all of them. Even without salacious or scandalous content. But the book also takes a subtly critical view of the QM's intelligence and her parenting. In particular the choices made around the girl's education. Which might have been a real sore point. In between the hugs and kisses, there were unflattering remarks about Princess Margaret too. That's crazy that the DoW asked to be ambassador to Argentina! And was Wallis not involved with Ribbentrop?
@royalhistorygeeks6034
@royalhistorygeeks6034 Год назад
Interesting, thanks.
@KCohere33
@KCohere33 Год назад
I would never get married if I had a huge fortune just so my husband could get everything.
@mariannehancock8282
@mariannehancock8282 10 месяцев назад
Ah, but she had no choice. She was a minor and his ward. It's not right but the king could sell the wardship of minor wards to whomever he liked. Edmund would have had complete control over her.You might see it as legal abduction and rape.
@Chipoo88
@Chipoo88 Год назад
It cannot be demonstrated that his parents weren’t together at his conception because it simply might not have been documented that Richard was briefly back home.
@swannoir
@swannoir Год назад
Excellent presentation. I'm pretty much 50-50 on this, would love to know!
@endthedrugwartoday
@endthedrugwartoday Год назад
She was assassinated. Harry and Meghan took advantage of her weak state and played games that cost the Queen's life. That's murder. People, let me tell you, guard your loved ones. When they get older they become fragile and can retreat into childhood fantasy. Like for QE2R, SHE JUST WANTED TO HANG OUT WITH HER FAMILY AND HAVE EVERYONE GET ALONG! Too much to ask. Died exasperated. I channeled QE2R and She says She would have been less embarrassed if she had been guillotined in a public square. Then She quips that She's talking about what's happened to Her legacy since She was assassinated.