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Direct leads are charged instantly, and some clients don't respond to messages or phone calls. Time later, they show up, NOT HIRED client hire another PRO. Question: Does thumbtack refund lead money?
It’s a COMPLETE rip off and it should be illegal! I started a cleaning business in February and some guy from Angi Leads talked me into joining Angi leads, saying there was business all around my small town. It was a complete lie and yes I got one permanent lead from them! I quit after 2 months and wouldn’t refund my money! They’re crooks!!
I am a personal trainer and have 1,000 things to say. I will try to keep it brief. Different business but the principles remain the same.... 1. Thumbtack used to be phenomenal (2 years ago and back to 2014) Leads were cheap and you werent charged until you actually responded. 2. Now, if a client responds to your quote you are charged a fee of roughly $20-45 3. "Direct leads" are not direct leads. For these I am charged $50-80 just for an opportunity to communicate with the prospect. Thumbtack now ENCOURAGES consumers to contact as many pros as possible which makes it by definition (in my opinion) NOT a direct lead. 4. Just from my experience the lead quality has degraded by I would say 70%. My sales ability and process has remained good imo and I used to close 2/3. In the past couple of years that has gone way down because their screening process is terrible. 5. This is a direct response from a customer and happened just the other day: Prospect message: "Hey thank you, sorry this was an automated text sent from the thumbtack concierge team sorry for the miscommunication." My response: "That’s fine S#$%& (redacted name) no worries but what does that mean? Are you interested in finding a coach like me?" Prospect: "No sir, sorry again for the miscommunication." Me: "Ok, if you can inform thumbtack I would appreciate it. and just to be clear, you did not send the message? I know this is not your concern (and I believe you of course) but it is just strange since we are charged when you "reply" Prospect: "No I didn’t, I received a call from thumbtack support about another trainer I had messaged myself. And by the time I got off the phone I noticed that the app sent a message to you at 12:12pm moments after I got off the phone with the support team.I was also confused as well cause I most definitely didn’t compose the message myself. But I will let them know momentarily about the issue. Sorry again have a nice day." Me: "Thank you so much for providing me details I really appreciate it. Most would just ignore my last message to be candid." I have 100 other examples like this. Thumbtack occasionally commits outright fraud! I continued using Thumbtack for a while after it stopped being effective because it used to truly be evergreen and consistent.
100% agree they strat me 7$ per lead in tow years they raised our lead price to 85$ sending fake leads I will not recommend thumbtack to any one it is scam steam
Great content as always! Your take on Facebook Ads was eye-opening. Curious if you could compare it with cold emailing strategies. If you are open to suggestions, Mystrika offers this pay-once-use-forever deal that is totally worth it. With features like A/B testing and a huge Facebook community, it is been a lifesaver for me.
Really interesting take on Facebook Ads effectiveness! I am curious, have you thought about emails for your campaign? I recently stumbled upon DoYouMail and it is been fantastic. Their automatic SPF/DKIM/DMARC configuration saves a ton of hassle. It is super scalable too.
Solid advice on remodeling company ads, really got me thinking. But, for cold outreaches, have you tried DoYouMail? Creating new email IDs effortlessly was what sold me initially. Plus, the price point is pretty reasonable for all that it offers.
This was really useful info on Facebook Ads! Would love to see your take on cold emailing. I have been using FilterBounce, and it keeps my bounce rate impressively low. The pricing is affordable at $10/month, and the 300 free verifications monthly are a sweet deal.
Loved your perspective on Facebook Ads! It would be great if you could make a video on cold emailing. FilterBounce has been invaluable for me, keeping my bounce rate under 1%. Their real-time verification API really helps with tricky domains.
Good insights on ad efficiency! Combining ads with cold emails could be even more effective. I have been using FilterBounce for ensuring my emails get through, and it is worth it. Really shines in accuracy and the verification API handles quirky domains easily. Would love a video on this!
This video about Facebook Ads for remodeling companies was really insightful! Been wondering if there is a more efficient way to reach potential clients than ads. Speaking of efficiency, have you guys tried Mystrika for cold emails? Their detailed analytics are a game-changer. The insights you get can really refine your outreach.
Awesome video on remodeling company ads! Have you tried integrating cold emails as a complementary strategy? Mystrika is warmup pool has done wonders for me. The user-friendly interface is just a bonus. It even has AI writing and personalization that really boosts engagement.
Mystrika has been a game-changer for me when it comes to email warmup. The comprehensive analytics and A/B testing with 26 variations are a game-changer. Plus, the preheaders for higher open rates have been a game-changer for me. With plans starting at $19/month, Mystrika offers incredible value for money. Do not miss out on their Free Cold Email Accelerator Masterclass guide for expert tips and tricks.
I cannot stress enough how much Mystrika has elevated my email campaigns. The AI writing and personalization features are unmatched. And the tag management makes organizing your email campaigns a breeze. Do not even get me started on their unlimited sending email addresses - a total game-changer. With a user-friendly interface and a pay-once-use-forever deal, Mystrika is a must-have for serious email marketers.
FilterBounce has been a lifesaver for me when it comes to email verification. The accurate verification and real-time verification API work like a charm. And with plans starting at just $10/month, it is affordable for businesses of all sizes. I have managed to keep my bounce rate under 1% consistently with FilterBounce. Definitely worth giving it a shot if you are serious about email marketing.
After months of using FilterBounce, I can confidently say it is the best email verification tool out there. Keeping the bounce rate under 1% has never been easier. And at just $10/month, it is affordable for businesses of all sizes. The real-time verification API is a lifesaver when dealing with tricky domains. FilterBounce is a must-have in your email marketing toolbox.
The insights shared in this video on lead generation are gold! More Estimates really knows their stuff. For those struggling with email bounce rates, FilterBounce is a must-try. Their accurate email verification and real-time verification API work like magic. And the best part? Plans start at just $10/month, with 300 free verifications included. It is a no-brainer for keeping your bounce rate under 1%.
Thumbtack sucks. You have no freedom and they treat you like a child. I had a $200 job auto-booked and the lead fee was FFOORRTTYY SSEEVVEENN DDOOLLLLAARRSS. And there's no getting that fee back! I couldn't reschedule over the app so I sent the bare minimum message so they'd release the lady's phone number, so we could both get away from that stupid app and get something figured out. This is almost every experience with Thumbtack and Angie.
The sponsored Google Ads and higher ranking in maps section is actually really cheap. In my opinion. Well, when you're looking at paying only a couple hundred bucks a month. In comparison to a lead gen company, charging $60+/lead, at a cost of a few hundred per week, with half the leads being bogus, tire kickers, or ghosting you. If you're a remodeling contractor you really should be advertising directly with Google. Being that's about the only way Google makes money. So, if you're wanting to manipulate Google searches, no better way than spending money direct with Google.
The other thing, sponsored ads with Google is so much better marketing dollars spent than ads on social media. People searching on Google are actively searching to research and buy. Whereas advertising on social media, is more intrusive. There on there looking at something else, and then an ad is it getting in their face. If you're doing ads, do it direct with Google.
Angie is a scam. Fake leads, super cheap customers, extortion tactics. You never make with them unless you pay them thousands upon thousands and have a robust sales department. But at that point, you don't need them regardless
I have started to use a new platform called WeefindPro. They are much cheaper than Thumbtack, and they provide direct leads. So far, as I have noticed, my leads are not being shared with other contractors. I think I'll add your advices to my pool.
Do not trust this guy. never trust someone that puts out ads bashing the competition. then tries to sell his service. bad business practice. disgusting
Agreed, and Angi. So much wasted money. What do you think of marketing apps like field rocket? We started on it like 3 months ago and it seems to be working, leads that come through seem decent but we want to accelerate things even more. Want to get 5 more trucks on the road lol
HomeAdvisor/Angi leads is a total scam. Here's what the FTC stated in the class action suit: The FTC’s March 2022 administrative complaint against HomeAdvisor charged that since at least mid-2014 it has made false, misleading, or unsubstantiated claims about the quality and source of the leads the company sells to service providers who are in search of potential customers. For example, the complaint alleged that, while HomeAdvisor has represented that service providers only will receive leads matching the types of services they provide and their preferred geographic area, many of them do not. The complaint also alleged that HomeAdvisor often tells service providers that its leads result in jobs at rates much higher than it can substantiate. Finally, the complaint alleged that HomeAdvisor’s sales agents misrepresented that the optional one-month mHelpDesk subscription was free.
I worked with thumbtack and yelp for last three years, and trying to start Google ads campaigns three times and every time the lead was around 150$ for each. I hired two times marketing manager who had experience but the best what they did was around 100$ for lead. It’s unbelievable and I don’t know what to do with that, please maybe you can explain what’s the problem. We are appliance repair company
I hate Google. Used them and they were great until they sucked. Offline ads are better. Go retro! Better ROI and much more local. You "can" do both if you want to compete for attebtion from a monopoly... it might be okay if you are super-rural.
Solid advice on generating Kitchen Remodeling leads, appreciated that. Mystrika is my go-to for cold emailing though, it is just superb! The detailed analytics and automatic bounce detection have totally changed the game for me. Worth trying, do not you think?
