I don't know if it's worth it or if you're better off picking one or the other; however, you can run both Springans and Mathmech with Suship. After using Tally-Ho and summoning the 3 bodies use the two level 4 Springans to make Primathmech Alembertian and search Mathmech Circular. Circular will send Mathmech Nabla to summon itself. Use Alembertian's second effect to tribute itself, Merrymaker, or whatever makes sense to summon Nabla from the GY triggering Circular to grab Mathmech Superfactoral. Nabla will then tribute itself to summon Mathmech Diameter from deck. Now you have two level 4 on board again to make another XYZ and go into F0: UDF. Depending on your hand and extenders you can still make UDF and synchro off Diameter and Circular to make Omega and hand rip your opponent. The downside is the deck (and board) starts to get cluttered trying to keep 3 spots open for Superfactoral. Fun to cook for sure though.
Before I see any comments regarding a certain play in there, just to be 100% clear. it doesn't matter when you use the effect of sargas bounce (on your turn), it can be done at any point in the combo so long you get your tally-hoo rolling.
Hello, always nice to find a fellow Suship enjoyer. I've also cooked a lot with Gunkan Suship and here to share what I've found. The following information primarily applies to the TCG but can be converted for Master Duel. These are some of the strongest tech options in my opinion. This is an older thread that I copy pasta so some of the combo lines may not be 100%. Hit me up if you want to bounce ideas. *Adventure Package: Run this with Suship 100%, it's too good not to. I prefer Adventure & board breakers over hand traps when it comes to Gunkan. (Maxx "C" in Master Duel being the exception - it's worth running 3 Ash and 2 Called by the Grave because fuck Maxx "C". I also run Baronne De Fleur in Master Duel for the occasional Wandering Gryphon Rider + Ash Blossom play). Adventure is extremely consistent and great for setting up an omni negate or protecting your Suship plays. There is almost no conflict with the normal summon restriction with as much as Suship special summons. Plus Dracoback has synergy with Gunkan Suship Shari.* Small World: If you aren't a fan of the adventure package then you should run a Small World package. 3x Small World and run 2-3 copies of your choice: Ash Blossom, Lava Golem, Nibiru, and Kurikara Divincarnate. Small World allows for any Gunkan Suship monster in your deck to bridge into any other Gunkan you want or Ash, Lava Golem, Nibiru, or Kurikara Divincarnate and vice versa! If you're so inclined you can also add Barrier Statue of the Inferno to this engine. Painful Decision: Fantastic searcher allowing you to search either Suship Shari or Shari Red. Unexpected Dai: Level 4 extender special summon Suship Shari *Instant Fusion & Ready Fusion: Level 4 extender special summon Mudragon of the Swamp and/or Rare Fish. Mudragon can change it's attribute to potentially protect your other monsters from being targeted but is usually just an extender for your xyz summon.* The Phantom Knights of Shade Brigandine: Level 4 extender that pairs well with Time Thief Redoer in the extra deck. *Sakitama: Level 4 extender that summons itself for free* (very strong when used with the Mathmech build since you can tribute Sakitama with Alembertian and it adds back to hand.) Tenyi Spirit - Shthana: Another free level 4 extender Night Sword Serpent: This card is a pseudo level 4 extender. It turns your Foolish Burial into a level 4 extender. Between Forbidden Droplet and the Adventure cards there are 10 cards that can send Night Sword Serpent to the GY to active it's effect. *Magikey Spirit - Vepartu: This card opens up what I consider Suship's main 2 card combo line. Gunkan Suship Uni + Shari/Shari Red > Special Uni + Shari > reduce level to 4 > add Shari Red to hand > xyz Vepartu > Vepartu effect add Shari to hand > Shari Red effect reveal Shari > xyz into Shirauo Class Carrier > Draw 1 and add Daily Special (Daily Special also ends up being a draw 1 + add a suship monster to hand) > xyz F0: Utopic Future > xyz F0: Utopic Draco Future. This 2 card combo ultimately puts a nasty boss monster on the board, adds 6 cards from deck to hand, and you still haven't used your normal summon!* Gaia Dragon, the Thunder Charger: This lets you xyz climb your Gunkan Suship Uni-class Super-Dreadnought into a 4 material Divine Arsenal AA-ZEUS - Sky Thunder. Gunkan Suship Shari Red is a very potent "1 card combo" if you have another Shari to reveal. Go into your Uni-class Super-Dreadnought, replenish the 1 card you used from your hand, negate an opponents card, attack directly for 2900, and then xyz climb into a 4 material Zeus!! Daigusto Emeral can later be used to recycle your Uni-Dreadnought, Gaia Dragon, & Zeus from your GY for round 2 fight! What's great is that with the Vepartu combo and Daily Special you can guarantee yourself to have this follow up Zeus play. Gallant Granite & Barrier Statue of the Drought: Feel like being degenerate? Since Suship can often combo without using your normal summon... why not make a Gallant Granite and search for a Barrier Statue of the Drought to use as your normal summon? Or you can add a Nibiru, the Primal Being to hand. Forbidden Droplet: Say Less. Even better if you can use with Water Enchantress, Dracoback, Lightning Storm, or Raigeki as free discard fodder. (i.e. Activate Raigeki and then chain droplet - Raigeki can be sent from the field as a bonus discard and the effect still resolves). Toadally Awesome/Bahamut Shark Package: Instant Fusion & Ready Fusion + Rare Fish & Mudragon of the swamp in the extra deck = free level 4 extenders. This also pairs well with 3x Tenyi Spirit Shthana. One copy of Megalosmasher X also has great synergy with your copies of Unexpected Dai which can help you turbo out Bahamut Shark. You can also add 1-2 copies of Night Sword Serpent (a bit more bricky but a good discard for your Adventure Package or Forbidden Droplet and can also be sent to GY with Foolish Burial - this is more consistent in TCG where Adventure is full power). Takes up 4 extra deck slots but adds ~10 water attribute extenders that can help play through negates or summon a sick boss monster. (Sadly Toadally Awesome was banned in Master Duel but is still viable in TCG) Infinitrack Fortress Megaclops: Another strong extra deck option. Pairs well with Bagooska or Bahamut Shark/Toadally Awesome as you can use Megaclops effect to recycle them. Utopia Double & Double or Nothing!: Adds a garnet to the deck but opens up incredible OTK potential. Summon Utopia off of Utopia Double, Utopia negates it's own attack which makes Double or Nothing! live and brings Utopia's attack to 10,000. (It's over 9 fucking thousand!!) Number 60: Dugares the Timeless: This is an option you have for OTK lines. Unlike Utopia Double this option does not require running a garnet in the deck but does require more bodies on the field to pull off. You will usually double your Gunkan Suship Ikura-class Dreadnought since it can attack twice. Utopia Package: It does add 2 bricks to the deck but takes the deck's power to the next level. 3x ZS Ascended Sage, this is a free special summon and just further enhances the previously mentioned Vepartu combo. 1x Reinforcement of the Army + 1-2x Zexal Construction to search your Ascended Sage. This effectively gives you 5-6 copies of Sage to go into your Utopia plays. It's niche but does come up where Zexal Construction allows you to shuffle a garnet back into your deck if you do draw Double or Nothing! Ascended Sage + any level 4 normal or special summon > Utopia Double > Add Hyper Rank-Up-Magic Utopiforce > Add Double or Nothing! and xyz climb into Utopia > Utopia Prime > Use Rank-Up and summon Number 99: Utopia Dragonar > Dragonar effect summon Ultimate Leo Utopia Ray > Rank-Up becomes material from GY > Leo effect to equip ZW - Pegasus Twin Saber > During opponent's draw phase use Dragonar effect again and summon Number 38: Hope Harbinger Dragon Titanic Galaxy or you can summon Number 4: Stealth Kragen, or wait until you use your other negates and summon out a Number 41: Bagooska the Terribly Tired Tapir. If you draw ZW - Pegasus Twin Saber with no way to shuffle back then Dragonar into Number 38 & 41 or Number 4: Stealth Kragen is the play. *Mathmech Kit: A very strong option consisting of Mathmech Circular, Diameter, Nabla, and Superfactorial in the main deck. Primathmech Alembertian, Laplacian, & PSY-Framelord Omega in the extra deck. Any two level 4 will let you xyz into Alembertian > Add Circular > Circular send Nabla > Laplacian tributes itself to summon Nabla from GY > Circular triggers and adds Superfactorial > Nabla tributes itself to summon Diameter > Circular + Diameter synchro into Omega > Omega effect > Superfactorial on opponents turn into Laplacian. This will ultimately rip 2 cards from your opponents hand and potentially a monster and/or a spell/trap from the field + Laplacian will have an omni negate during your opponent's turn due to Diameter. The Uni & Shari (Vepartu) 2 card combo can be altered with Mathmech. Go into Alembertian first and proceed with the combo I just described but instead of synchro for Omega you will xyz for Vepartu, then Shari red effect into Carrier, and then go into F0: UDF (With the Mathmech Kit: Shari + Shari Red + any 1 special summon extender is also full combo. Actually there are several 2 cards combos that result in full combo like Shirauo + Uni & Shirauo + Ikura but you may not be able to utilize the Adventure cards in those combo lines - I consider full combo setting up Superfactorial and F0: UDF plus setting up your follow-up play with Daily Special)* *Gagagaga Magician: This compliments the Mathmech kit very well. As stated any two level 4 gets you into Alembertian. Rather than going into Omega at the end of the combo line if you xyz for Gagagaga Magician you can bring back Alembertian from GY and xyz into F0: UDF* In my opinion the Mathmech variant is currently the strongest. It's consistent and can play through several interruptions. It can set up a very oppressive 1st turn board (F0: UDF + Superfactorial + Gryphon Rider + Omega = 7 interruptions... and more if you draw Forbidden Droplet). Even your sub-optimal board is still quite nice (F0: UDF + Superfactorial = potential 5 interruptions).
@@sergiocardonamurillo2701 I can see Danger cards having the potential to work in the deck however I try to avoid leaving things up to chance. I'm also not sure what you would cut for the Danger cards. Shifter would not work well with the way I've built the deck as it does rely on using the GY. One nice thing about Gunkan Suship is there are several ways that you can play the deck so I'm sure you could design something that works with Dimension Shifter if you wanted.
ever since i saw gunkan i had to make into something that would benefit using its xyz, so i came up with a combo with melffy so that it puts the opponent in weird spots. destroy xyz and special summon another to negate or search. or hit melfy and combo off to synchro. works pretty well but i love what you did with the deck. keep up the good work and let me know if you have any other decks that can work with gunkan and make some crazy boards
yeah, i realized it much later after the video was out. hopefully it probably didn't matter too much since i summoned diameter? ty for pointing it out tho!
@@kettleknight6550 it's fine aswell with the nibiru play (they had elf, sherien and life resoant bird) they couldn't made apo anyways because elf cant be used as material for link summon the turn it was summoned but i think you knew that aswell. You will get to the top with me one day :D
