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@@acegabrielcruz3687 Would still take years and years. Mortis Anakin ragdolled the embodiments of the Force at the same and was nowhere near his FP. Who knows really
Rotj sidious is the combined form of the energy he absorbed from jedi deaths of the time of order 66 up to the original trilogy but not yet in his ultimate amp because he doesn't have dyad yet while Pre Exile luke already has some qualities of full potential anakin
Imagine how much power boost would Vader get if he killed obi wan in the time of the kenobi series instead of waiting for a new hope he would get boosted more 10 years earlier
It takes 9,000+ jedi to defeat Yoda since he is the most powerful jedi the reason why post 66 Sidious was able to keep up with Yoda is because Sidious absorbed all the energy of the dead 9,900 Jedi during order 66
If original trilogy Vader used the world between worlds and time traveled back to Rots he would handwave the entire council and then easily beat Rots Palpatine then finally Vader has full control of the galaxy just like he mentioned to Padme in Mustafar
More like low diff since Kenobi Series Obi Wan is a Mace Windu level opponent he hasn't reached his Rebels to A new hope form yet since Obi Wan's rebels version is equal to Yoda as he demonstrated how he easily defeated an active Darth Maul who's on the level of asaj Ventress and clone wars season 7 ashoka
My friends told me that Anakin wins but Knightfall Anakin, Senate Yoda, and Rots Sidious don't come close to the power level of Post Kenobi - OT Vader and Post Rots Sidious levels which Luke achieved quickly in 4 years time
If Luke joined Palpatine right there then we would see a much earlier version of legends luke because the dark side amps anyone with high midichlorain counts
@@acegabrielcruz3687 that's Legends, and my video is canon. In canon Mace has a ton of statements to support he is above Sidious who in term is >> Dooku
Post Rots with years of power boost because of Vader Kiling remaining jedi neg diffs prime Yoda but Rots Sidious tho depends on which version because if its pre boost Palpatine who fought Mace then Yoda wins low diff but if its Rots Post 66 boost who just begun to discover his powers then the battle was even until Palpatine won extreme diff as seen in the movie
If Palpatine killed Yoda in that duel Palpatine could have gotten the ultimate power boost since Yoda is 19,000 Midichlorains Palpatine could have absrobed his power and become the equivalent of something as powerful as the mortis gods or even more powerful than mortis gods
@@acegabrielcruz3687 you can't really get such a boost just from killing one Force user. Also the Mortis gods operate on a level that is leagues beyond any mere mortal
If Luke didn't exist to help the rebellion and redeem Vader to Anakin then both suited Vader and Palpatines powers would have been boosted so much making them dark side demi gods of the galaxy
Palpatine got a really huge power boost after 9,900 Jedi out of 10,000 died during order 66 thats a very huge power boost imagine how much more power he gained after every remaining Jedi Darth Vader found and kill from after Revenge of the Sith up to the original Trilogy
@@grandmasteryoda6687Vader is boosted also after order 66 but Disney with bad writing made Obi Wan and Cere tough fights for Vader when it was supposed to be easy since Vader is stated to be more powerful than Knightfall Anakin and Pre 66 Sidious
@@acegabrielcruz3687 yeah, these are his 3 boosts all of which are extremely potent. But against Kenobi, Vader is nerfed and also keep in mind that Kenobi had the advantage of knowing all his moves , that's the reason he even won And with Cere, Vader is toying with her all the time and only really took her seriously once he was injured and still won lol
@@acegabrielcruz3687 Obi Wan beating Vader in KS was entirely made to suit the narrative and not contradict the quote "When I left you, I was but to learners, now I am the master" in ANH KS Kenobi's amp is also just that potent but that's another thing, in reality they made Vader lose on purpose so they don't completely contradict previous material
Vader > sidious Impulsive and ruthless , Kylo Ren was lost in anger and hate . Through his veins ran the bloodline of the most powerful Jedi and Sith , for he was once Ben Solo , the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa , grandson of Darth Vader . A gifted Jedi and student of Luke Skywalker,” -- Star Wars: The Age of Resistance - The Official Collector's Edition
@@Darthvader20th Are we going to ignore the already established narrative for Sidious > Vader and Sidious having tons of supremacy statements over Vader lmao Did u even read any Vader comics?
@grandmasteryoda6687 TOP 5 Red lightsaber wielders 1.DARTH VADER Even when slowed down by his armor, Darth Vader is a truly lethal opponent. 2.DARTH SIDIOUS When necessary, Sidious can unleash a dark side-fueled frenzy of strikes and slashes. 3.DARTH MAUL Maul uses his double-bladed lightsaber to create a terrifying vortex of energy! 4.DARTH TYRANUS Tyranus has spent a lifetime honing his elegant lightsaber dueling skills. 5.ASAJJ VENTRESS Asajj's power lies in her unique twin blades combined with her ferocious fighting style. -- star wars absolutely everything you need to know Through his veins courses the bloodline of the most powerful Jedi and Sith , and Ren sees it as his birthright to rule the weaker beings in the galaxy.” -- The Force Awakens Legend Vader loses midichlorian and potency canon vader didn't lose potency or midichlorian
@@Darthvader20th The dueling list only proves Vader > Sidious in dueling, which I don't even disagree with. Shall I spam all the numerous Sidious supremacy statements? And please read a Vader comic before making these comments, if u ever bothered to read a single Vader you would know Vader > Sidious is literally baseless unless you are referring to dueling Vader not losing potential doesn't mean shit when Sidious is still more powerful than him Sidious can always amp himself from Vader's hate to stay superior lol
@grandmasteryoda6687 Vader has several pieces of evidence that affirm Vader to have surpassed Palpatine. Luke Skywalker, in his older years, someone who had witnessed the Emperor's power firsthand, considered Vader to be the greatest enemy of the jedi, placing Vader as a greater of a threat than Palpatine. "Even as they molded me, trained me to confront their greatest enemy-my father." - The Last Jedi comic Darth Vader is stated to be not only a champion of the dark side but even its ultimate or greatest instrument. "... Darth Vader, the Emperor's most feared and powerful emissary, and a champion of the dark side of the Force." - The Last Jedi collector's edition "Darth Vader is the ultimate instrument of the Dark side!" - Rebels Confidential / Darth Vader / Star Wars Rebels And not even a decade after ROTS, Vader was stated to be the most powerful sith in the galaxy. "Few survive an encounter with the most powerful sith in the galaxy..." - Jedi Fallen Order databank Darth Vader is the most dangerous being in the galaxy. With the entire military might of the Empire at his disposal and the dark side of the Force at his command, no foe can hope to challenge him and win. -Target Vader: Part 1 With the power of the dark side of the Force and the might of the Empire, Darth Vader is the most dangerous being in the galaxy. -Target Vader: Parts 2-4 The intro Text of Vader 2019 #41 stated Vader tested Palpatine on Coruscant.: "Vader and his droids escaped. The Sith Lord then made his way to the Imperial palace to confront his master, Emperor Palpatine, and test him..." - Vader 2019 #41 So, Vader dosen't wanted to kill him, not yet. Impulsive and ruthless , Kylo Ren was lost in anger and hate . Through his veins ran the bloodline of the most powerful Jedi and Sith , for he was once Ben Solo , the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa , grandson of Darth Vader . A gifted Jedi and student of Luke Skywalker,” -- Star Wars: The Age of Resistance - The Official Collector's Edition Through his veins courses the bloodline of the most powerful Jedi and Sith , and Ren sees it as his birthright to rule the weaker beings in the galaxy.” -- The Force Awakens Dictionary Dark Droid Issue 3 Vader creates force limbs Sidious clearly states that Vader is weak because of his emotions rotj vader > rotj sidious > tesb sidious > tesb vader > anh sidious > anh vader Disney says Vader is more powerful than Sidious.😄
@@Sonofgezergozer Because Anakin does not really overpower him before the rage amp, Dooku is keeping up with him and Obi Wan at the same time, also Anakin can't outpace Dooku before the rage amp, and the Force cats are obvious, especially Force abilities and mastery
Anakin High Diffs And since when Tyranus takes Strength? When ROTS Novel clearly states that Anakin is breaking Tyranus's defense with unstoppable power of meteor strike Anakin dominated him at first, before Anakin being hindered mentally
First this video is canon, not Legends, and Dooku is shown comfortably handling the duo in 1vs2 and only getting overpowered and defeated when Anakin embraced the Dark side. Second, even if this was Legends, it's a horrible take as Dooku was comfortably taking him on, and pre rage amp Anakin is unable to overpower or outpace Dooku Dooku was in motion, landing a spinning side-stamp that folded Skywalker in half; he used his last burst of dark power to continue his spin into a blindingly fast wheel-kick that brought his heel against the point of Kenobi’s chin with a crack like the report of a huge-bore slugthrower, knocking the Jedi Master back down the stairs - ROTS Novel Anakin looked up just in time to glimpse the bottom of Dooku’s rancor-leather boot as it came down on his face and smacked him tumbling toward the floor -ROTS Novel There literally isn't even a single statement for pre rage amp Anakin > Dooku
@grandmasteryoda6687 but what about the speed feat of anakin does that have any influence that statement or is it a fake one I don't understand the scan it self?
@@AstroCyGuy_editsHe actually did, was intended to be = ROTJ Vader, and there were numerous statements for that, but him getting ragdolled by a Sidious at a one shot gap below ROTJ Sidious changes everything
@@grandmasteryoda6687to be fair, they were on a immensely powerful Darkside nexus which amps Darksiders while hindering lightsiders. Also, Palpatine hadn't ragdolled them apparently. In the novel, it was described that he had used the Force in a different manner in order to "impale" them with it somehow instead of simply grabbing them.
@@grandmasteryoda6687 that's what the movie made it look like or was supposed to be. But apparently it's not, as stated in the novel. The only ragdolling was Ben's and that was only after he was almost sucked dry by Papatine who already had the advantage of being on the Darkside nexus, Exegol.
Not impossible, though Luke has a good IQ feat of copying Vader's style mid fight and using it against him. And to be fair, I stopped using the IQ cat a long time ago, as I simply find it irrelavant in a battle and I simply use 1vs1 BIQ since that's what matters in a fight
I'm curious what statements do you have in canon that support HR being Yoda's prime, could you give me the quote and source because you are the only one I've seen with this take in canon
@@SidiousEdits87 He is basically considered to be in his prime during the HR by the same person who is writing him www.starwars.com/news/the-makers-of-star-wars-the-high-republic-cavan-scott-and-daniel-jose-older
