They both need to be gone, demar is old and not taking us anywhere but the 10th seed and zach and his stupid contract while playing like a fringe star is only gonna hamper the bulls. Tank and rebuild
I think the Bulls are gonna take some obscure guy from a Euroleague team. With this draft class being as forgettable as they come, this is the year to take the chance. It sucks that we don't have our 2025 pick, when the class is expected to be decent, that's the one thing AKME has been terrible at. Bulls have won 0 trades in their tenure and 0 sign and trades. We've woefully lost them all actually.
I think back in 2022 we missed big time at #17 with Terry and you had a guy like Walker Kessler there who at the time was the best rim protector coming out of college. He has a little more upside than him at 7’2. In a weak draft class he may be one of the best if not the best coming out of this draft. Nothing to lose at our position. We are a play in team with or without Caruso or LaVine.
I would not give up any assets to move up. I would stay at 11 and pick whoever is available of the following three: 1. Matas Buzelis, 2. Kel'el Ware, or 3. Zach Edey. Or if all 3 are available at 11, I would probably pick Matas Buzelis or perhaps move down, pick up some assets, and then still pick one of the 3 players I want.
I’d have to respectfully disagree. Tired of watching teams drive comfortably to the paint against Vucevic. Take a look at what Derrick Lively has impacted the mavericks this season
Caruso to Houston for the #3 Jabari Smith jr, Tari Eason. This is sorta what knicks got from Toronto for Anonuby. Or trade Lavine & Drummond to Houston for Jalen Green, Dillion Brooks, Tari Eason, and the #3 pick or Lavine to Detroit for Jaden Ivey, Wiseman, Isaiah Stewart for #5 pick ( Matas Buzelis). Then lastly, Zach Lavine and #11 to San Antonio for #4(Matas Buzelis) & #8(Kel’el Ware).
Another reason for a leader not to compliment too much one of his team mates (Im well aware scotty is good) But this backfires ya know. MJ been too good to Scottie, and now Scottie thinks he should have the same treatment or respect like MJ. Guess it happens in normal life.
I personally like the idea of trading up to get Clingan as long as we aren’t giving up anything more than Caruso and 1 of either our #11 pick or more preferably that Portland pick. Also I think people saying “this isn’t the draft to trade up in” doesn’t mean much. Normally you can’t trade up in a stacked draft anyways because nobody wants to trade out of a pick like that. The reason this works is because none of the top prospects in this draft works for the Rockets really so it’s a prime time to trade up. Clingan is one of the most intriguing prospects in this draft in my opinion and at the end of the day is the Bulls see something special in him I can’t knock them for going after their guy. I’m a fan of Kel’el Ware personally but part of that is because I felt like Clingan was just out of reach for us @11
I do not! Kalel Ware is better in every aspect and is a 42% 3point shooter at 7.1 More Athletic, excellent shhoter and defender. A Steal! Standing pat is the best option unless its in the Top 3. Eddy is a 7.4 Joker. Slow but effective. For him i would hipe we trade Zach to get Orlando's #18 pick and Johnathan Isaac.
So let me get this straight you dont want a rebuild, you dont want the bulls to trade, you dont want them to move up in the draft. So what exactly should the bulls do? Or are you on the AK “run it back” “we want to stay competitive” “Lonzo will come back and salvage the team”.
Look if this is the guy they want. Why not???? Would not do something stupid but if they see something in him that they can develop and build. Why not???? Because this team needs to have a better second team. Look the playoffs now second team play has determined a lot of these series but if they think this guy can to develop into something to have an impact. Why not??.......I just don't take the NBA draft seriously. These guys are 4-5 year projects. More than likely he is going to be in the G league he is not to be on the opening roster if he is not in the rotation. You just don't know about the draft. These idiots that call themselves draft experts are 90% wrong years down the road. I would even waste time crying about the draft because you don't know who the bust is and who the star is.......
Just randomly curious. Say Derrick Lively was in this draft and knowing what he is capable of. Is Lively to you worth trading up for? Just asking because im seeing some comparisons Clingan to Lively
Actually watch the prospect before making a video like this man. It comes off as lazy when you don't even put in the time to watch the prospect and judge them.
Personally, I don't get it. He looks like a 2nd. rounder to me. I know - in the 21st. CENTURY there are people who "STILL BELIEVE" you draft the "BIG MAN", etc, no matter what. I'm "NOT" one of them. I'm "OLD ENOUGH" and "KNOW ENOUGH" and "LEANED ENOUGH" to remember the Trailblazers drafting Sam Bowie (I don't count Houston drafting Akeem Olajuwon, 'cause he was a "DIFFERENT BEAST") "OVER" Michael Jordan, basically just because he was a "BIG MAN." And I'm DAMN SURE NOT "TRADING UP" to get him. THAT'S DEFINITELY OUT. SIDE NOTE: This draft - and off-season - is going to be HUGE - at least to me, for the Bulls. "IF" the Bulls don't get something substantial going, it might be time to "MOVE ON" from AK, too. I already think it's about time they "MOVE ON" from Donovan. I've seen enough of what he's "DOING" or should I say, "NOT DOING."
Agree. I would not trade up for Cling Kong. If you trade up I would target Sarr, Risacher or Holland. Maybe if you can get #3 for AC only. I would just stay at #11 and take a solid player.
He’s a winner brah like I don’t be understanding these takes frfr cuz these guys can and will be the total opposite of what y’all predict they will be in the nba he’s basically a taller walker kessler imo and Bulls fan would have killed to get walker so why not clingan I say give him a chance cuz trading some assets that I personally don’t think aren’t all that great and isn’t going to even touch the floor come playoffs isn’t going to matter if they do if for clingan
They should have picked Kessler. They missed out on him, so maybe they're thinking Clingan is the guy to get this time. He has a higher chance of being a bust than a productive starter. I'd pick Matas Buzelis, Kel'el Ware, or Zach Edey.
I dont why your against it alex Caruso value is going to start to decline at the start of next year if your not going to extend him and giving him 25 million for a team looking for salary cap relief and looking to resign demar is a horrible look
@@3912JamesI even said to trade the veterans last off-season when everyone was trading all there assets to get star players before the new salary rules came into effect but here we are conunity
@lilbfrom094princeton8 but he's up for a extention this year that's probably 20 or 25 million a year and if he's not going to sign it I would look to trade him because having him walk for nothing is even worse
I'm absolutely checking the "no" box on trading up to 3, maybe if he fell to possibly 7, however, there are good options at 11 (not great) Williams, Holland, Knecht and 4 or so more options
I agree trading up is stupid. If anything trade back with a team like Cleveland depending on who they trade away before the draft if anyone. I can make a case that it's fair value to trade zach and pick 11 to Cleveland for one of mitchell, garland or Allen. I'd feel far better short and longterm trading back and landing either of those Cleveland guards and the messi/missi guy from Baylor or landing Allen and collier from usc over trading up for anyone in this draft. Of course three years from now whoever went pick 6-26 will be the first overall pick in mock redrafts
