I absolutely agree! I love my E-nduro every day I ride it. But I don't get why you want that clutch... If you want to mitigate your power and find grip, just tweak your throttle. If it's too harsh, program it the way you can dose it. Why would I want to pull the clutch instead? it increases the RPM also, which has no benefits in an electric motor. Okay one benefit... you gain some gyroscopic stabilization. Is it that what you want?
Step one to make your enduro bike lighter: Buy a 2 stroke. Step one to understanding quoted torque figures from electric vehicle manufacturers: They lie, you can divide my 10 in most applications for torque delivered at the wheel. Sure the motor might be capable of the quoted torque (at the spindle output after the reduction gearbox), but no controller is allowing anything like that amount to be delivered to the wheel, not a single one.
@ 2:00 Did you say people are paying TOP dollar to enjoy the outdoors?! You see what's inherently wrong with that statement right? We are children of the earth and at no point were we meant to PAY to enjoy the planet. What's next TOP DOLLAR to enjoy the air?? You want water? That'll be $59.97 for a tall cold glass because big CORP owns all the rivers, lakes and streams. Sorry for the rant, it's just the more people start to talk like this is the new "normal" sort of makes it factual. And that's a BIG problem.
Its referring to the property prices. The rich are up on hill tops and have their own lakes and aren't interested in anyone disturbing their peace and quiet.
For offroad recreational use, i dont see this happening at a broad scale. However for farm and ranch use electric totally makes sense especially if there are govt subsidies. Greater towing and hauling capabilities and less maintenance just make sense. Unless you're on a several thousand acre ranch, you're not putting more than 100mi a day on these things.
I don't have a problem with options. But I'll pass on EV off road. And I am not supportive of govt subsidies for it, which is really paid for by taxpayers. Let the product stand on its own two feet and compete in the market on a level playing field. If it needs govt subsidies to be successful or even survive, the market isn't ready for it or doesn't want it.
F9 or not, this was some great content. My ankle currently looks exactly like the second x-ray in the start of the video because I skimped out on boots. Still riding but I promised myself that inferior gear will never again be the reason for an injury.
Never?.. I wouldn't be surprised if in 10 to 15 years we would see some significant shits towards electric in MX and Enduro. Stark Varg is already pretty impressive. For trials it's almost certain. We already have EM, Mecatecno, Yamaha and GasGas building electric competition level trials bikes (some production, some factory-only). Many kids are growing up riding electric trials and MX bikes. It would greatly help with land access issues, ability to have tracks closer to cities or even within a city. Broader potential market of hobby riders - people who don't want to deal with maintenance of a gasoline engine and everything that comes with it, younger generations that are more "environmentally conscious", etc. The perception of non-riding public is definitely better when it comes to electric dirtbikes vs gasoline bikes.
@@wild_trail_flow I guess if they put charging stations up in north eastern Ontario in the middle of nowhere, maybe. Hard core enduro riders that do two to three hundred kilometres over a weekend are not their target audience I guess. As a novelty or like the go cart tracks of old I can see it.
@@TheKitchenTechnician I was thinking more about the competitive side of things (e.g. trials, MX/SX, enduro GP, GNCC, Superenduro, short distance hard enduro events, etc). It obviously won't work well for remote enduro or adventure riding, desert rallies, races like Romaniacs (if they keep the current format). I myself live in central Greece close to an area called Agrafa - a fairly remote mountain range with practically no infrastructure like gas stations, etc. In area like that electric bikes won't work unless the battery capacity significantly improves. My last enduro bike was a Beta RR390 with a 19l rally tank. Event that tank capacity isn't always enough for some of the longer exploration rides that I do. My trials bike is a TRRS Xtrack with the larger tank + some fuel bottles in the backpack.
@@TheKitchenTechnician for me, if it wasn't for the surron X, i would have never even started this sport. Now i own an ultra bee, and for me, its very good. Yes, range is limited, but i usually get out of juice before my bike does. Yes, its not for everyone or all scenarios, but the electric word is evolving so fast... I wouldn't be surprised to have 2x battery capacity on bikes in 5-10 years.
Yes, we need some clarification. If we’re going to sub, we want to know if this is an official Fortnine site. And if it is, it’s great to see the off road content!
I was a content creator for F9 for 3 years. The title is there because i was paid by them to make this, so didn't want to misrepresent it as my own, and funnily enough it's caused quite the stir amongst fans trying to find out if i'm legit. haha.
Out on the trail none of this is going to happen anytime soon. I can see why they did this to a utv where it may work on a farm that a charger in within range. Plus anyone on the trail don't want a big heavy atv that costs more. Most people I know that quad go for several days and packing a few gallons of gas is easy what are you suppose to do bring a generator?
getting stuck in an EV-ATV is a death sentence, hybrids are the only logical choice, ask anyone about the offroad range of their machines and they'll tell you that the advertised mileage has a massive difference in actual mileage offroad. it's like 10 to 1 and that's not being "trapped in mud"
To everyone in the comments, theres literally a vid filmed in the fortnine warehouse on this channel. Pretty sure he works there and has permission to post these. Relax
great video mate. Its a smart move to start with UTV market as these are mainly used on farms and for that use extreme range is not an issue. If you look at the last 20 years of cost perkwh and energy density of batteries you see the curve for cost / kwh starting to slow but it started at about $1000/kwh and is now getting to $100/kwh when it does get there the price comparison between ice and ev will be much the same. Consider that $2000 in terms of maintenance, fuel and oil its a bargain for a farmer. The energy density curve though is more interesting as its pretty much a linear curve at this point which tells us that this will continue to climb steady Moores law style for some time to come. So a doubling of energy density is coming. Once that comes you have zero issues. One electric quad bike maker in Europe tested theirs over 3.5 hours riding in rough conditions. They also offer a small petrol generator you can plug in. It won't allow full speed but will allow you to run at up to 30km/h continuous. So if you plan a long trip this is a suitable back up to get you back home if it gets close to flat. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lWPJmyOQYqI.html here's the video Obviously this isn't green but its greener. Particularly if its only a back up. On nature trails no reason you couldn't have a charge point at a camp ground for example that was solar powered. I had a trike back in the day and my usual use was to ride for an hour or so for many that much range would be sufficent. Consider this too. In my country you can get 6kw solar fitted for under $5000 for your home. Charging an ATV off this would not even be a blip in this power on most days. What would really make sense for boys with toys of course is to do what electric hand tools are and have interchangeable batteries. Electric motor boat, use the same battery as your quad bike or dirt bike or jet ski? Finished, plug the battery into the house and use it as storage to save on the electricity bill during the week. This car ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q1LHh6FkpuI.html uses a removable wheeled battery that can run your home. or your car or with two your scooter. This is the way we are heading. Also consider if a farmer with a UTV you could run various electrical tools off that battery. Your farm may only be 1000 acres so well within range of EV UTV but if you could be powering/ recharging batteries over a day of chain sawing, repairing fences etc. Bloody useful and save driving back to the homestead to re-charge more batteries or need to use fuel. Not only saving money on fuel but petrol chain saws and power tools also need maintenance.
Everyone in this comment section are idiots. If you'd bothered searching a little, you'd see that he is followed by Fortnine's instagram account... so obviously he works for/with them, and has approval to use the branding.
34's cousin? Definitely some f9 vibes. You copied his style well. Im not sure if thats a compliment or not lol. Looks like you caught the attention of the algorithm though.
Watch out for your battery catching on fire. It might be that the batteries on off road bikes experience enough shaking to prevent the the kind of build up of particles that cause the short out fires.
You're more likely to have a gasoline powered bike to catch fire than a battery powered one. Since it literally works by combusting fuel, you constantly have a small fire burning between your legs. It only takes the wrong angle for fuel to spill out and start burning. If, however, you do manage to puncture your battery somehow, that fire will be more difficult to contain than a petrol-fueled one. Not impossible, just more difficult. Any kind of electrical short outside of the armored battery will most likely not cause a significant fire. The wire insulation may burn off, and possibly the plastics on the body of the bike itself, but the battery isn't going to go up in flames.
LOL the first time I ride a dirt bike (was already very good rider of ATV and three wheelers) I stalled in a swampy rock garden and realized the kick starter fell off. LOL I had to bump start it and never stall again the whole ride and it was some nasty stuff. LOL
I'm a very good rider of DH MT bikes and I've understood that motocross riders need the motor to slow them and it's missing on electric motobikes. Build in a a way to slow the bike when throttle lifts and make it so you can dial it in to your needs and you will will rule the motocross world
That's exactly what he explained towards the beginning of the segment on the Electric Motion bike @3:42. The regeneration does exactly what you are asking about, and it works the same in electric cars as well. When you let off the throttle, the motor takes your inertia and converts it back to electric power, charging the battery slightly and slowing you down. The secret sauce is getting the perfect amount of regen for your style of riding, but that's one of the tweaks that will be available to electric rider teams in the future to gain an advantage.
@@jakesgreatesthitsif Ryan is franchising out then I want in on this. Good vid either way, man. Just installed some barkbusters VPS on my XT. Always mod Numero Uno
@@jakesgreatesthits The question you aren't answering or explaining is why you're posting them on your own channel. We all know F9, and you claim to be a former content creator for them but you're not explaining why you're posting content they presumably own, along with other company's content on your own channel.
@@dothetontim because it’s work I’ve done. Why are you asking? Have you nothing better to do? Have you ever seen a credit at the end of a movie for a director, cinematographer, editor, colourist, producer?
Hey man, what's up with FortNine in the title, the use of FortNine logo at the beginning, and then later on a ForNine merch shirt. In your about page nothing says you actually are affiliated with FortNine, but yet you're heavily implying it.
This is work i did for them over the past 3 years. I put the name in the title so as not to represent it as my work, when i was paid by them to create it.
