even if ive witness those for years, things still went south. its not getting better. hes saying to de-identify with body and mind totally, yet anyone before he or she reaches awakening. its a weird and sick way to live, for theyre trying to believe sth. they never experienced. a doctor would say its madness. and one would easily create doubts. [im not saying its a wrong way, for i know nothing] this mechanism is sad (thousands suffer, few find some mysteries way ["awakening"]). its just sad. nothing grateful or wonderfel about it.