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6:06 you know its a german camera right? so Im no leica enthusiast but im guessing "z" stands for "zeit" (time) and "m" for "manuell" (manual) thanks for the video, nice to see a replica
I'm sorry, but I think you ought to make a better communicating title. The title comes off as slightly click-baity, suggesting different camera holds with straps or technique of having your camera at the ready, which this video is definitely not about.
@@robbiesumantri this is way better, was recommended to me. This is basically the strap I have already, for someone who doesn't have one I think they would quite like it
Hi Robbie, I was wondering, I heard that you can take out the integrated UV filter. I bought mine but I couldn't take it out. Am I missing something here? Apabila agak di paksa takut rusak, so.. apakah your copy is removable? Thanks beforehand. Great video as always!
Hi, yeah I took mine out. If you notice, there’s a slot on the filter that you can use something plastic (don’t use a sharp metal object) to remove the filter with. Ga rusak kak, hati2 dikit aja 🙏🙏
@@robbiesumantri Thank you so much for the reply. I will be sure to try that. BTW mudah2an tidak keberatan Saya bertanya, apakah Anda juga bikin event hunting Sekitar Jakarta? Please let me know if there is or isn't, would love to join! 🙇 (Jarang bertemu dengan sesama M Shooter). Keep up the great videos, I really enjoy them.
Great video. This is definitely a len I want to check out. Do you think that Light Lens Lab is going to come up with a version two of any of the lenses? It’s a little bit of a strange idea since technically they’re coming up with perfect replicas of vintage lenses and a lot of those might not have a version two.
I have this lens in black. The plastic hood is fugly and I refuse to use it on the lens, think it looks way better without the hood too. Haven't had any issues with lens flares. Build quality is incredible, and focusing is super easy and smooth. Love the images you shot in that market.
The MP is a good camera, but the M6 zinc body models are better not the re-issue. The M6 is a true shooter's camera, it has better balance. If you are a professional shooter the M6 will feel better and render more and better images, it feels intuitive. The MP is a good camera to collect, but it's not a true shooter's camera and you get a red dot logo; heritage. Just my opinion. Lenny Kravitz rules!
I see where you’re coming from. Some photographers will prefer the lighter weight but, balance wise, the mp being heavier will not make the camera front heavy when you’re using larger lenses. Adding weight might actually make something feel lighter depending on how the weight is distributed. In terms of rendering, I don’t understand how it renders better images as it depends on the lens and the film stock. Thank you for watching
@@robbiesumantri Probably should have chosen a different word than rendering. How about "will make better images" with an m6 because of my opinions. I wouldn't mind owning an MP or an MA; I would rather use a M6. Something about the M6 feels special and intuitive, just like the M3 single stroke does. The M6ttl, M7, re-issue M6, MA, and MP all feel clunkier. That said, they are all brilliant photo machines. Plus, I'm not a fan of glossy paint. The plastic part of the M6's film winder is an improvement, tried changing it out to a solid arm winder and it was much harder to work with. Plus you can tuck your thumb easier under the winder arm to hold on to the camera better. Hence my opinion that it's a better shooter's camera. Everyone loves the red dot too. MP has a great real leather covering, think that's the biggest plus.
@@robbiesumantri I think you will like the non-TTL classic. I prefer the 2 arrow metering, it's always super accurate and less distracting than the 2 arrow dot system. I've read some reviewers who didn't like the first M6's due to using "lesser" materials. I think Leica's use of the "lesser materials" is a plus, it's lighter and winds smoothly. I use the 21, 28, and 50mm lenses with it. Tried the 90mm and it worked out superbly. The film rewind knob is easier and faster for me to use in the field. Added a soft shutter release to it as well, was able to load up and feel the shutter better. The older focusing window isn't much of an issue, can't remember losing a shot due to having it ghost out. MP is a premium camera, M6 classic is a true shooter's camera.
I think Ansel Adams will produce Ansel Adams photographs no matter what camera you give him. You can technically use any camera to photograph anything. I don’t think there’s a genre of photography printed on any box for any camera or lens. Thank you for stopping by
Tried taking some shots with a Leica M and was completely mindblown. If I had one, it would probably the camera I mostly shoot with (but I don’t). Honestly think when it comes down to Leicas, price tag should be the last thing to consider, or not at all.
Great video Robbie. Those photos were amazing. Unfortunately, unless you gotten to experience a Leica Monochrome system yourself, videos will never do the camera experience justice. Having used one myself, it’s worth the price to the right users
Thank you so much!! Yeah that is why I encourage people to try a monochrome before forming opinions. I did exactly that and I was wrong. People need to try the cameras if only for experiencing another tool in our craft. Thank you for stopping by
? You still did not adequately explain why a monochrome digital camera? Photos are sharp mostly due to the lens! You can make the same bw print with a color Leica! Why? Why? It still drives me nuts that there are people out there who can afford to buy a monochrome Leica just to play around with it for a few hours and then relegating it to the closet. As if the color one is not enough. (Ok, I admit, I am jealous of people who can afford this camera) but still don’t get it. I hope they have a warehouse full of this camera gathering dust.
I think I did. You get an unfiltered sensor. The CFA cuts about one stop of light and takes away a lot of clarity and sharpness. Why a monochrome camera? No reason apart from the fact that they like it. The fact is, it’s a huge commitment to shoot nothing but monochrome and most people will choose a colour sensor for options. Only the niche within the niche will choose to shoot purely monochrome. As for a warehouse full of this camera collecting dust, not really. Monochrome cameras are probably the fastest selling cameras in the second hand market. So the real answer to why a monochrome camera? For most people, it’s simply “I like it at the moment.”
A digital sensor has some amount of megapixels, but unlike a pixel as considered by your computer (which is "RGB", 3 subpixels per pixel), a camera sensor's pixel is sensitive to one color. A camera sensor has no subpixels. It uses smart algoritms to combine the pixels to create shapes and lines. This demoasic process isn't flawless. Instead, it is actually subject to many subtle flaws. Furthermore, a sensor is natively sensitive to any color, even colors we cannot see (IR & UV). Most cameras are equipped with IR and UV cut filters, only letting visible light through. Additionally, COLOR sensors are equipped with color filters. For every 4 pixels, there's two sensitive to green, one to blue and one to red. All other colors are filtered. So not only is roughly one stop of light just filtered away by the color filters, you also throw away detail to get color. A monochrome sensor has up to 4 times the resolution and gather twice the amount of light. Twice the amount of light means less noise, resulting in a cleaner image. Camera lenses show imperfections because of the way they handle different color waves. Red light is rendered different from blue light. These imperfections are different per color. For a black & white sensor, these imperfections are smoothed out and equalized over all pixels, so you get a cleaner image. So: - Sharper because there's no demoasic process - Sharper because there is no color filter - Sharper because the lens imperfections matter less - Sharper because there's less noise (because more light is gathered) Do you need one stop of light and a bit more detail? I don't know, that's up to you :) But 6K for such a specialist piece of art is totally a fair price.
I agree that a dedicated monochrome camera can give better results than _simply_ converting a color RAW file. Especially if all you do is desaturate the RAW file which has _never_ been the best way to do that. But there are two problems. First, is that the improvement in results that you get from a monochrome camera are very slight and that advantage is not worth $6000 in anyone's wildest dreams. It's not even worth the difference between the $6000 Leica and a $2000 name-your-brand mirrorless camera. If you have the money and just want a Leica that shoots monochrome then that is great. Not knocking the camera, after all, it is a Leica. Bet let's not try to justify the results vs the cost. Second, if a camera only captures in monochrome and records no color, which is what I am assuming this camera does, a great deal of capability is lost in terms of post processing. (If the color data is in fact recorded then this point is moot.) But, when you capture a RAW color image and convert to black and white, in most (not all) image editors, the color data is still there and you can manipulate that color using all of the available color sliders etc. This allows for tremendous refinement in fine tuning of the image, especially when it comes to blue skies, etc. With the color slider you can adjust luminance and many other parameters of a single color even defining that color precisely with an eye dropper tool. This capability is completely lost if the data is only gray scale. And that makes $6000 look a bit less impressive and maybe even a little silly. It makes me wonder if people have done their homework.
Hi, thanks for your thoughtful and comprehensive comment! I completely understand your points and agree that a dedicated monochrome camera is quite a niche product. The key difference with a monochrome camera is that it lacks a color filter array (CFA). A CFA is what allows a camera to capture color information by filtering light into red, green, and blue wavelengths. Without a CFA, each pixel on the monochrome sensor captures pure luminance data, resulting in higher resolution, sharper details, and better low-light performance. That said, it's true that the improvement in image quality might be subtle and not justify the high cost for everyone. It's a tool designed for a specific type of photography enthusiast who values those nuances in image quality and is willing to invest in it. It will never be the value for money nor the most versatile option. I encourage you to keep an open mind and try a monochrome camera if you ever get the chance. The experience might surprise you, and it's always interesting to explore different tools and techniques in photography. Thank you again for watching
Yeah leica price range is a bit ridiculous especially when we start talking about lenses and accessories. They do perform well, but we can’t deny they are also luxury products. Thank you so much for stopping by 🙏
I'm a fellow happy owner of the Leica MP Black Paint and I do shoot it almost every day. Another rangefinder camera that I would add to the conversation is the Nikon SP remake that was produced in 2005. This is in my opinion as well built as the MP and a truly unique and beautiful camera. The 2005 edition of the SP came with a W-Nikkor 3.5cm f/1.8. It's a magnificent lens with a fascinating history.
Oooh the nikon sp is awesome. There are rumours flying around of a ZS.. sort of like a digital rangefinder. I don’t see it happening soon though unless they decide to make rangefinder lenses. Or use the current lenses but make it just look like a rangefinder. Thank you for stopping by
There is something about the m11 monochrome files that gets me closer to a filmic look that I edit less. It’s not just ISO and sharpness. it’s like an endless roll of XP2 for me. Love it!
Might be helpful to others ….. I’ve been shooting JPG black and white with RAW color backup for about a year on all my cameras. This has been a good test to see how much I truly prefer B&W over color …………….. 95% of the time I prefer BW even converting the RAW to BW. That said. To get a Monochrome sensor would still be a big jump for me to even try it. I really do love the soul you can get in BW. To me feels more like memories.
I really think that is the way to go. You only buy a monochrome camera if you can make the commitment to shoot purely black a white. And a huge commitment when we’re talking about leicas. Thank you for stopping by sir
If it’s value for money you’re looking for, I don’t think we’ll ever find it in any leica. I think you can get a lot of very good setups with 6 grand. Or a leica.. Thank you for stopping by, I appreciate it
Would you do a video on black and white photography on the GR3? Many have this wonderful camera and could benefit from a detailed video on how to get the best results. Thank you for your great content.
Yeah I’m torn between the cameras. But, I would probably end up with an M11m at some point because I can share batteries with the m11. Thank you for stopping by
I think the trade-off for high ISO is not worth it. With color you have more editing possibilities and an easier workflow. You want to make your sky darker adjust your blues, can't do that with this camera. Getting rid of that in order to shoot at higher ISOs and a slightly sharper image is not worth it IMHO.
You make a great point about the trade-offs with high ISO and the flexibility of editing color photos. The Leica Q2 Monochrome is definitely a niche camera, and it's true that it's designed for a specific audience and people who choose this camera know exactly what they want. Personally, I would also only consider it if I already had a camera with a color sensor. Having tried the camera, I think I understand both sides of the argument.
I respectfully disagree. The latest versions of Lightroom, Photoshop and other software use AI to select sky and objects. AI selections can be refined by intersecting the object selection with luminosity. Refinements can be made using the brush and other tools.
Yes, I’m very aware of the capabilities of editing. I predominantly shoot colour photos myself. I assume that David’s point is the availability to be able to export the photos in either colour or monochrome would be worth more than what a monochrome camera offers. I put forward that the ideal situation would be to have both cameras and I think the conversation of value for money is not really relevant when we’re talking about leicas in general.
@@bensilverman3837 okay lets look at grass, whats easier, adjusting the brightness levels of greens, or selecting the grass with masks? What if I want just the yellow parts of the grass to be brighter to emphasis that it was golden hour? Being able to edit your contrast, and brightness levels based off color data is a way more efficient workflow and also allows you the flexibility of better results. Masks are not a replacement for color brightness adjustments, they are supplemental. then throw on top of that the ability to export in color or black and white and you are just punishing yourself when it comes to workflow and flexibility. That punishment isnt worth the extra sharpness or ISO performance in my book. If you don't edit the exposures or dodge/burn your photos as much then your opinion may vary.
@DavidVRU-vid Ultimately, I think it boils down to the photographer's workflow and personal preference. If someone values the highest possible image quality and enjoys working within the constraints of a monochrome sensor, that trade-off might be worth it for them. For others, the flexibility and ease of use of a color sensor will make more sense. Both approaches have their merits, and it's great that we have the option to choose based on our individual needs and artistic goals.
Voigtlanders are awesome. Some of the best performing lenses available on the market. The ultron is very sharp but gives up a bit of micro contrast so the images are comparatively flat. Lack of depth and 3d pop compared to the leica cron. But, it’s nitpicking and cutting it close.
