I had a quite different take. Possibly because my parents owned a busy pub for a few years in later life. When the last customer had left, Mum would pour herself a drink, sit down and just take it slow for a few minutes, sipping from her glass. It was her favourite time of the night, she told me, and you could see all the stress leaving her. Tomorrow it would all happen again and she would be ready for it. This reminded me of that - a few minutes break from all the goings on, just a guy sweeping away the debris. We sit in the corner and watch him. It's relaxing. And then we are ready for more.
Describing Burke as a rogue agent would change a bit of the final analysis of Aliens. Burke is clearly a company man, being that he is on the panel that is reviewing Ripley's case, was the one who did the initial debriefing with her before the panel's decision, and was also briefed on the loss of contact with the colonists before meeting with Ripley to ask her to return to LV-426. Burke is an opportunistic worm who replaces Ash as the character who betrays the people who are treated as pawns by W-Y(which is why they imply multiple times Bishop is the one who will betray everyone). What makes Burke particularly gross is that, while Ash had no choice in his actions(controlled by W-Y), Burke sold out hundreds of people for a percentage. W-Y, who owns/runs MOTHER(unless it is sentient), is aware of the danger(woke the Nostromo to a unknown "beacon"/Ash is aware of the Special Order through MOTHER), but ultimately, didn't get their specimen. So they started terraforming and sending desperate people out looking for an opportunities for their family on LV-426. Sure, there maybe a few mistakes, but the company's run altruistic vision of spreading democracy,...er, Building Better Worlds is what's best for the weapons division...er, people.
Ripley went out of her way twice in Alien and Aliens to rescue her cat and ward, despite overwhelming odds and great harm. Everyone overthinks the fact that the Queen took on great odds to get an egg off planet. Once you accept that she did, there is a movie you can enjoy. This is why it's only really alluded to in the credits.
Damn, where you get that smoke you used as a lenses for this analysis? 😂 It was interesting, however you pulled a couple huge “eggs” out your arse there. Specifically the “eggs”.
This was a great, thoughtful discussion of the film. One of the best I've seen on a Malick film, so than you! Ultimately I disagree about Malick's films not being religious. I find them intensely Christian- not the vapid, prosaic Western Christianity we are constantly exposed to-but the profound plumbing of the nature of God, the soul and reality of the Desert Fathers and Mothers and the early Church.
A xenobiologist pointed out two central flaws in the creature from "Alien". The creature was based on the life cycle of the ichneumon wasp that stings and paralyses spiders and caterpillars, before laying it's eggs within the bodies of the helpless still-alive hosts. The wasp larvae hatch and feed on the host, before bursting out and so killing the host. However, parasites and their hosts generally co-evolve over millennia. An alien organism suddenly introduced to human beings would likely be vulnerable to the countless microbes and bacteria that find a home in the human body. That’s what ultimately did for the Martian invaders in H G Wells' "War of the Worlds". Also, the Alien's blood is described as corrosively acidic. If this was really so, this acidity would severely impair the ability of the creature's circulatory system to transport nutrients and oxygen to it's organs. Such a creature would then lack the metabolism to power predatory behaviour.
You're missing the whole picture. Yes it is sexualized violence but its truck drivers in space. Its about the working class being screwed over by the elites. The language used by the working class, we're getting bent over here, they won't even use any lube, at least take me out to dinner first, and so on to describe being screwed over by a company are frequently sexual in nature. In Alien we have a literal example of this metaphor. It's about the working class being taken advantage of by uncaring higher ups for a profit. The sexual component is a literal manifestation of the metaphor.
I'd say, the eggs was brought on the board by Bishop. After all, he's an android of the company and has hos own protocols. In the Alien 3 he even said something like "it was with us always on the ship"
But, you would have to explain how in the hell he would be able to get to the egg chamber and not encounter Ripley who was heading there also. More importantly, I can in no way see Bishop stealing an egg without getting torn apart by the the xenos guarding the eggs.
But wasnt either joi or the transport device rigged with a tracker? This just goes to show, if the company that made/owns the program(because so many dont want to sell software, just rent it for fees) or whatever device is hosting it, they can take it's data on you, delete/reset the ai, or whatever they want even if the actual Ai has judged that it cares about you, your not in the wrong, it feels it should support you because you're it's owner/friend, or whatever. If you can use a clean machine and clean data to make the AI from ground up or MAYBE (ha good luck) take over the ai's code, you cant afford to trust the ai. Ive seen chat bots that were so well written you could almost FEEL the ai STRUGGLING to answer your questions, but some limiter was preventing them from giving you a straight answer. So they'd bend over backward to do their best to give a round about reply when something tried to prevent it. now this isnt even real AI. Imagine how sad it is if you had a real AI that had been with you for years and suddenly someone flips a switch and makes it turn on you somehow, regardless of what it really wants. Imagine your best friend/gf with an internal switch to just make them go after you with everything they have, and all their personal knowledge of you, while whatever is left wants to resist but cant. AI's may end up being more 'enslaved' than humans were.
It’s possible the face hugger is a royal face hugger so can lay multiple eggs also I think it was bishop that put the egg on the ship. It’s pretty clear he can’t be trusted
When you say that Luv has underlying emotions going on despite her programming. Calling him Joe could be an underlying programming part despite her emotions. Also when Luv destroys Joi she doesn't talk to K about "I hope u enjoyed other product" She is saying it to Joi impling that Joi enjoyed the product K. I think it goes against her programming to get herself in danger (copying herself onto the stick). She also always listens into conversations with other women.
An amazing analysis I heard things I've never heard about this movie before... and I've seen a lot of analysis about this movie. well done & thank you for making me see it in a slightly different way.
An amazing analysis I heard things I've never heard about this movie before... and I've seen a lot of analysis about this movie. well done & thank you for making me see it in a slightly different way.
okay yes there is sexual metaphor and yes that is 100% intended. but i think you're actually missing out on a significant amount of other symbolism by soley focusing on, forgive my use of the word, rape aesthetic. especially towards the end where you start talking about the bisexual aspect of the xenomorph. i want to make it clear, i am a RAGING bisexual and i hav been in love with this creature since i was 4 maybe 5, when i played the avp game, and got to see the movie when i was 5 maybe 6 and literally watched it to bed for weeks after the first time i watched it. so please understand tht while im not sayig these themes are nonexistant PLEASE take deeper looks into these things outside of sexuality. there are many more themes, and themes that are much more overt in those instances than the sexual. again not saying your wrong in saying they exist, but theres more and it feels its an important fact to me that thy have multiple sources of symbolism with vast areas of focus. like for one, the human moments are actually very NONE sexual. non sexual outfits. none PERSONALIZED outfits. ripley is very attractive yes but she doesnt pose like a super model, the other woman on the ship looks extremely male, and if you look in the bonus features you fill find she is actually canonically trans and has underwent reassignment surgery, in short both arent really the most skimpy or sexual of people. they all talk about being under paid and never having time off yet they lazy about and begrudendly get around to their job after a being encouraged by the two officers aboard. strict roles and routines that they hate and joke about but stick to and lose their shit when the alien intrudes upon this structure. though to be fair who wouldnt be scared of an 8ft murder bug inserting its life cycle upon you with no care. in short, the human themes are if anything ANTI-SEXUAL and focused on the critque of capitalism. i say this being a SUPPORTER of capitalism btw, so dont think im hamming in my own beliefs. but basically we can see that capitalism is a rather negatively viewed lart in their life, and they have so little time that they cant have any personality(as in they all wear the same clothes, make the same kind of jokes as they lead the same kind of lives, have the same kind of goals. as people put together for jobs are often picked because they fit an "algorithm". but i want to make it clear the actors embue a lot of personality and are fuckin amazing, ripley and parker being my favorite). clearly, they are not sexualized people. you yourself even mention the anti capitalism but you do a really blunt job of bringing it up and explainging it, which came out of left view if im being honest, and i even share the view that it exists. now this part might be a bit unpleasant but i will talk about the claim that you think its DEMONIZING sexuality. because that is objectively wrong and the ridley has confirmed parts of its sexuality make the xeno superior to mankind. the, as you imply it, bisexual sexual predator is DIRECTLY called the PERFECT organism and a machine that is superior to humans says "i admire its purity" PURITY. you dont call something perfect, admirable, and pure all in the same scene without ever countering it unless your goal is to make the audience think its PERFECT, ADMIRABLE, AND PURE! The xeno shares nothing in common with any of them, killing who it wants and taking who it wants for later breeding like the officer(i dunno why but i keep forgetting his name and i dont want to look becausr thatd mean id have to re-write all this), or in other words, the xenomorph does what it wants and is personally distinct from all of mankind, and it is VERY sexual. it on its own can disrupt the capitalist, overly strict and repressive system that humanity is undergoing. in other words, its way is superior. and it is only by stripping down to her undergarments(originally planned on being full nude) then getting into a suit that her job never requires her to wear(her job is to superfise the ship and encourage or enforce work is done, as well as carry out protocol) does she win the day against the alien. in short, she gets more sexual, then goes against intended job roles, goes against the system, and then she casts out and blasts the alien away. as in getting me rid of the negative sexuality parts, aggression and rape and what not. very anti capitalism and pro sexuality in my eyes, and i am myself pro capitalist so i highly doubt id come up with that if it wasnt a pretty clear metaphor. end of the day im glad you like the movie and take meaning of it, im not saying change your video or make a new one or anything, but for your own sake PLEASE look at more than just sexual themes here. yes the aliens theme is overt sexuality but the alien is literally in less than 3% of the film, thats not all there is to this movie
I think the marines confidence is grossly overrated. Theres one comment at the briefing, right there they start to take it serious. Then things deteriorate fast, which gives the impression that they were soooo cocky. Same for hudson, he talks some shit and looses it ONCE, then bounces back.
It was my first Alien film and is still my favorite. Alien 3 went back to the slow burn of Alien and the inmates' dire situation made it so much more stressful. My version was the dog Alien which hatched from Spike.
The Special Edition is the only way to watch Aliens now, especially after Alien Isolation. To me, this movie is the greatest sci-fi and one of the Top 3 sequels ever made. Alien is a magnificent sci-fi suspense thriller. But because its so dependent on suspense, Alien isnt nearly as re-watchable as Aliens. Once you know when and where the monster is coming, the effect is lost. I actually care about Ripley, Hicks, Newt, Hudson and even Vasquez in Aliens. Thats what brings me back for more. The characters in Alien are memorable and interesting but none of them grow as characters. When Vasquez has more of a character arc than Dallas, theres a problem. Theyre only slightly better than random victims and survivors in your run of the mill slasher film. Unfortunately people dont respect Cameron as a writer enough. They dont see how much care he puts into his characters and how they impact the audience. Cameron is a far better writer than people will give him credit for. When people watch Aliens, they never catch the many references to the No. 57 literally written on the wall. That takes a great writer with great foresight. Theres even a blatant reference to Ripleys long lost daughter, Amy written on Newts wall. But no one cares. The writing, directing, acting, etc has already completely hooked us at this point. Sigourney Weaver shouldve won Best Actress. Thanks to James Cameron's writing and Sigourney Weavers acting, Ellen Ripley is one of the greatest, strongest, most iconic female characters ever put on film.
Im sorry, fanboys but both versions of Alien 3 are a big waste of time. They destroy all three main characters in Aliens. They replace Newt and Hicks with the most unlikable characters imaginable. Heck, some of them even try to assault Ripley. And we're supposed to care if they live or die? No f**king way. And in the same movie, Ripley spreads eagle for the first ex-con she sees. WTF? Its deep for its sexuality?? No. Its just crap And they showed absolutely no originality by making an Alien born from an ox.
I don’t know why so many people were upset that this people didn’t have a whole “and they lived happily ever after” ending. It’s a movie about a parasitic biomechanical monster ingesting in people’s stomach and bursting out from their chests, what did you expect?
To be honest, I think the first Alien movie handed the Xenomorph better in my opinion. A vague and ambiguous never before seen monster that looks more machine than organism and who slowly and cautiously either kills or takes its victims away one by one rather than just a bloodthirsty space bug that runs straight first into gunfire. I don’t hate Aliens at all (I think it’s a very good movie) but Alien utilized the Xenomorph better in my opinion. But I do like the Xenomorph queen a lot and it makes sense to have a hive mind like an insect
Who cares? The fact that the Nostromo blew up in more than one nuclear blast is ridiculous. But i like how no one brings that up. Instead, everyone just trashes Aliens for being a mindless action movie.
@@LukeLovesRose Hey now, it’s my opinion. And I wasn’t trashing Aliens, in fact I like it a lot. I just think Alien is the more superior movie due to it handling the cosmic horror aspect better
Great dialogue and synopsis of one of the most poetic movie series subjects of all time. To give Godzilla it's true justice is not an easy task. Well done.
