@@drehfreude8537 i've started but i ran out of time lol 2024 BMW M8 Cabrio Audi S4 Audi S1 Group A Audi Quattro A2 Audi Sport Quattro Opel Kadett C No Idea, not a Porsche Guy BMW 3er E21 Renault 5 Turbo Renault Alpine A310 Renault 5 Turbo Ford Fiesta MK1 Ford Mustang Mach 1 Mercedes E190? Porsche 944 Turbo Renault Alpine A110 NSU TT Porsche 914 Mini Cooper MK1 VW Käfer MK2 Opel Manta B No idea. Some Alfa Romeo Giulia or something from the 70s No idea. Some Alfa Romeo Giulia or something from the 70s - lol NSU Spider Audi 80 Quattro Oof. Mercedes Benz E190 Evo2 Ferrari 512 (LM?) VW Scirocco MK1 Some Porsche 911 or Carrera Something Yea a Porsche. Probably a 911 Renault Alpine A110 Ford Escort MK2 Ford Escort MK6 RS2000 DeTomaso Pantera DeTomaso Pantera Mercedes Benz 280 SE Mercedes Benz 280 SE Ford Escort MK1 Ford GT40 MK1 Ford GT40 MK1 I thnk that's an Opel Ascona Some Porsche. Probably a 911. BMW 2002 Turbo Mercedes Benz 300SL Roadster? Porsche 914 Ford Fiesta MK1 Ford Escort MK2 Some Porsche. Yea. A Carrera! Ford Escort MK2 Ford Capri RS NSU TT Deathtrap of endless Fun #1 Deathtrap of endless Fun #2 - maybe a Lotus? A bunch of pretty scary looking Cars a green and white aerodynamic deathtrap for beginners (i'd love one!) Another Porsche! A Carrera? 911? Probably. Fiat 124 NSU TT Some kind of Opel? Yea. Some kind of Opel. Fiat 500 Autobianchi .. ehh.. It's an Autobianchi :) Some Silver Oldschool Deathtrap by Mercedes, Famous Thing Another.. Mercedes?
@@Lutzilla_ stimmt! Aber soweit ich weiß nicht straßentauglich für das Euro 5 Modell oder? Als ich geschaut hatte gab es nur die Euro 4 Version und für Euro 5 die Racing use only version…
@@LeoKowalski-v4s I haven't personally tried it, but a lot of my friends have. Obviously the F430 is quite a lot faster, as it has more power and way more torque. The F1 transmission in the 430 is also way better than in the 360, a manual version is very rare! You can theoretically swap a F1 car to manual.... Soundwise, the 360 is far more high pitched f1 style, whereas the 430 sounds a lot deeper and bassier, but that's just up to personal preference. Just have a look at both in person, maybe that makes it easier... :)
Insgesamt sehr zufrieden! Beim Fahren wünsche ich mir gelegentlich noch ein bisschen mehr Lautstärke, aber das liegt eher an Windgeräuschen als am Auspuff. Bei langsamen Tempo oder im Tunnel bemerkt man dann wieder wie laut das Motorrad doch ist. :D Sie klingt jetzt deutlich tiefer und bassiger als der metallische, blecherne Serienklang und wenn der Auspuff heiß ist knallt sie gelegentlich auch mal. Für mich war der Hauptgrund aber tatsächlich die Zulassung und die Optik, da der Endtopf sehr edel aussieht und deutlich ästhetischer als die Alternativen von MIVV oder IXIL, aber 1400 € ist natürlich ne Ansage. Und rein vom Sound her sollen die anderen tatsächlich nochmal krasser (oder zumindest lauter) sein. Falsch macht man glaube ich aber mit keinem Auspuff was, die klingen alle gut! :)
@@drehfreude8537 Danke! Mir gefällt der SC Project auch am besten. Überlege schon länger mir einen sportauspuff zu holen aber da ist auch das Problem das die Herstellergarantie verfällt sollte was sein Und 1400 sind dann auch nicht so wenig da sie mit Original auspuff auch wirklich gut klingt. Bin noch unsicher 😅
@@Marco-rc1vw also ich hab meinen von meinem Honda Händler direkt gekauft (Motorrad Box Dachau) und die haben gemeint das beeinflusst die Garantie nicht. Da war ich mir nämlich auch unsicher, aber die meinten der Auspuff hat ja nichts mit der restlichen Technik zu tun... also am besten einfach mal direkt deinen Händler fragen. :)
Yes! It will get slightly louder and will also start to pop sometimes when the exhaust is very hot and you quickly let off the throttle above ~6000rpm. I switched to the SC Project at ~6000km though, so it's been a few months since I've ridden with the stock exhaust. 😁
@@drehfreude8537 I'm happy with the stock exhaust and how it looks, so I'm curious to see how much it improves. Something to look forward to for sure :)
Nice video. I wish I had roads like that here. The only place I have to bounce sound off a wall is under a bridge. For someone with a stock exhaust wanting to change, I would look at the Kline and compare to others. Then for me it would be cost. MY 2001 Spider came with a Tubi exhaust. The Tubi sound is fine. I wouldn't change it. That 430 in front of the 360 sounds nice!
In Germany the main factor is often the certifications. The Kline is one of the only exhausts that are legal. In my opinion Capristo sounds by far the best but that's illegal here and I'm not sure about the Tubi Style but the 360 luckily sounds awesome with every system... 😏😌
Ja, ist natürlich Euro 5 legal, aber klingt in echt schon ziemlich cool. Weniger "blechern" und hochfrequent, also nicht ganz so Rennmaschinen mäßig, aber deutlich bassiger und im Tunnel sehr erfreulich! 😁🤩
Difficult to say... it feels way louder than stock when you're riding relaxed under 100 kph, on full throttle above 100kph it feels 'relatively' similar, as the wind gets louder but this is only the legal setup. I don't know how much louder it is without baffle or cat... the IXIL exhaust is louder than this (and cheaper) but I preferred the looks of this one and it theoretically increases max power. :D
@@drehfreude8537Thanks for your reply mate. I agree this exhaust does look the best and like you I don’t want something obnoxiously loud just want it to sound more substantial than stock. Plus it is fully legal! Did you get the bike retuned after installation?
It definitely sounds more substantial now. More volume but a little bit less high pitched metallic sound. I did not get the bike tuned as it's restricted to 48hp anyways and I left db killer and cat inside... :/ But it is supposed to generate ~1hp at 12000rpm when the bike is derestricted. :D And derestricting brings another 2 db of volume, so yours would be a little bit louder than this if it's not restricted. @@Gibla737
Hey man! Just found your channel through this Honda CB650R ride. Great quality content! I was wondering if you ever tried the Honda CB300R? I'm asking because I’m watching videos to find out about what should be the first bike I own. And even though I wouldn't mind starting on a 300cc bike, in this economy I feel like selling it would be nearly impossible in order to upgrade and there is only about 3k$ difference. I wonder what’s your opinion about getting a Honda CB650R as a first bike. Pricier for sure, but I don't want to buy another one in a year or two and it appears to me that the CB650R might be a good choice being a beginner and for long term ownership as well. And that in line 4 sound... I'm in love with it. It has amazing reviews, haven’t heard anything bad about it so far (maybe that it's not that snappy with the throttle but I'm not an agressive driver anyway) everyone who rides it loves it. Do you think it works well as a beginner bike for a responsible rider? I would use it for city and longer trips as well. Thank you in advance! Have a good one!
Hi! I haven't tried a CB 300 yet, but I'm also a beginner and the 650 is my first bike. I can only say good things about it! The main reason for me was the inline4, as it is kind of the only A2 restrictable bike with a 4 cylinder engine... The sound is awesome for a new stock bike and with an upgraded exhaust it's even better! It obviously doesn't have the torque of a twin, so you have to rev it relatively high to ride fast, but that's exactly what I like. And for a beginner that's probably a positive. No surprises when you accidentally touch the throttle, only when you really open it... :D It's perfect for the city and good for taking somebody with you (at least on short trips) My longest ride was about 400km, after which I have to say it's not the most comfortable seat of all time, but that's changeable so no deal breaker. :D And it obviously has the normal disadvantages of a naked bike like no wind protection, but you could probably buy a windshield for it if needed... I can only recommend it, but either way, ride safe! ;)
I just bought the same bike brand new! It's only 500km now. Did you have a rev limiter at 7000rpm during your runnig in phase aswell? It's like an electronique shut down , breaking the power in high rpm.
Congrats! No, I don't think I had a rev limiter but I never revved it higher than 6000rpm for the first 500km. Do you have the A2 Version with 48hp? Yours was maybe electronically restricted to 7000rpm as that's where the bike makes 48hp. Mine is restricted through a different intake, which reduces airflow, so I can rev up to 12000rpm but the bike doesn't make any more power above ~7000rpm...
@@drehfreude8537 Absolutly, mine is restricted 47.5hp electronically without intake as you said (2023 version) I guess you are right, it should be a nerf during the running in phase!
True. :D The owner of the yellow one sold it to almost everybody on this ride... it's great because it`s one of the loudest and best legal systems in Germany @@Quellenaux
True! So much potential but so disappointing! They didn't even turn all the cars on and some of them had soft limiters so they were completely useless... :/
me gusto mucho el sonido, creo que suena muy bien para ser stock. me fije en la temperatura del refrigerante jejeje no me gusta la gente que acelera su moto en frio, no saben lo que hacen.
