The full video shows that he didn't breed better bees, but the varroa were actually inoculating the bees so the type A virus that would kill them couldn't get in to their systems.
So my dad who kept bees in ohio, and did so for 20 years, never treated. He ended up with no mite problems. The bees were bred over time with his own hive raised queens and was able to keep some queens for 5 years. We as humans must understand evolution is real. And in some living things it can happen much faster than others. Why do some plants or insects no longer respond to a certain herbicide or pesticide? They've evolved. The honey bee as we all know are very smart insects. You think they haven't evolved? Yea rite. 1000s of years old and they've evolved more than we will ever know
Thank you for such a nice video and educational subject to the public.I would like to share with everybody the angle I look at : 1- Even though the video was published 2015, but the Varroa mites are not consuming Hemolymph from honey bees according to Dr. Samuel Ramzy that Varroa mites consuming Fat Body of honey bees not Hemolymph. 2- Grooming Dance or behavior is not an effective way to get rid off Varroa mites. This type of Grooming Behavior just moving varroa mites from one bees to other. I think Purdue University discovery about fighting Varroa mites ( Ankle Biters as a hygienic Behavior is much effective ) . Also, some people are thinking when one bee jumped on the Thorax of other bees , she is doing Grooming . To my opinion it is not TRUE. Grooming Dance required receiver invitation . That means , one bee should vibrate or shake her body to invite other bees to do Grooming on her. 3- We should relalize that honey bees do not have Adaptive immunity system like human does.
I am from Saratoga, NY. USA. I think I have found a way to get rid of Varroa mites naturally. I have modified my hive to have high humidity microenvironment in the brood nest compared to honey supers. This has led to precipitous decline of mites naturally without any treatment whatsoever.
I agree with the above statement but artificially inseminating a queen is 'rape'. If we are to learn how to protect and look after them better we have to understand life from their perspective.
Hello , I have a question for you about pollen substitutes. Do you use them to feed your bees? I'm trying to understand how Corn Syrup and essential oils, which are in pollen substitutes, can be good for the bees. What are your thoughts on this. I'm interested in learning what to give my bees if to give them anything. thank you.
Vaccines are not right, it’s sorcery and sorcerers will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. Revelation says they would not repent of their sorceries(pharmaceuticals). Death from smallpox was from suicide. The prescription was to take the mirrors out of the home. The Bible says to obey Him and stop sinning then the diseases and plagues would not come upon the people.
It's a jab not a vaccine because a vaccine has only dead components not live ones which alter your DNA and can cripple or kill you. Don't take it stand your ground. The CCP virus is only like a severe flu germ if you catch it and isn't likely to kill you many people show no symptoms at all. All colds and flu germs are part of the corona virus group of germs and don't warrant shutting down the world in severe lockdown. It's a biological weapon created from an altered cold germ to try and cripple the West by the Chinese Communist government because they want to take over the world.
good on yah ron dont have bees🐝 But luv watching all bout them Been watching Fred dunn 2020 seems a great calm talker about bees👍🌸🌻🌼🐝 Chem free there you just a good self cleaner bee hive - Shame usa persist with these clone plants 2020 wonder if many still use these genetics seeds 🤦♂️
The first good choice is not treating. Depending upon how many and how close other beehives are, he would probably have even better results with his bees. Open mated Queens that are well bred and well fed are nearly always better than Queens that are artificially inseminated.
There is a lot of old information here. We do know the origin of Varroa Mite, and they eat the fat body of the bee, not the bee's 'blood'. The behavior of uncapping and removing infested larvae/pupae is called Varroa Sensitive Hygiene and has been known about for many years and there has been several breeding programs in the US and elsewhere working with it as well as other behaviors detrimental to the mites. The virus information is interesting. Hopefully, it amounts to something, but there really isn't a cure here yet that I see working currently with commercial beekeeping. There needs to be a lot more money spent on research. Unfortunately, this may encourage many hobbyists to not treat thinking that it's better than treating. Short of having a genetic lab to verify your virus loads and types, not treating will likely result in dead hives.
The video repeats the claim that the mites are feeding on bee blood. New research indicates that this is not true. The mites feed on bee fat body tissue: www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190130133027.htm video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DK2Xi0ST4rA.html
It sounds to me a bit like antibiotic resistance in disease. I've always thought that the best way to deal with viruses and bacterial infections is to keep the body at optimum health and high immunity and the body will fight it off alone. I would rather spend as much time as possible keeping my bees as healthy as possible without chemicals. My main reasoning is if shtf happens where are we all to buy all those chemicals? I would rather enduce them to propolize their hives( which has now been proven to immunize the bees from several diseases) and feed them up anytime we do not have a flow of nectar or pollen. Ultra bee bee pollen substitute has been said to be the best and I will use a homemade brood builder when feeding.
I would pay 100$ easy for a queen from this lineage. And breed as many queens as I could and spread them as far as I could. It could be the only thing that saves the European honey bee.
In 2017 we discovered a fossil of the European honeybee in a desert lake bed in Nevada USA. It is EXACTLY the same as the European Apis Mellifera Mellifera (the black bee). Smithsonian decided to name it Apis Mellifera neoartica to support their ice age extinction theory. The bee that was imported to North America was the Apis Mellifera Lingustica ( Italian bee).
It would be awesome to be able to graft a lot of queen cells from this resistant hygienic stock. Spread them throughout the world would remove or beat down the CCD going on throughout the world and especially in America.
Based on the what they are speculating, that alone is not the answer. American beekeepers essentially need to also stop the over use of chemical treatments which kill type "b" verroa and allow lethal type "a" proliferation. It's akin to taking an antibiotic which serves the function it is intended for, but also has the nasty side effect of killing the natural gut bacteria needed for a healthy digestive system. It requires the right pest to fill the gap in order to prevent the bad one, but also a hygienic bee colony that can thrive along side that less harmful pest. At least that's what I understood from the video.
@@reneebrown5598 best of luck to you. I do admire treatment free beekeepers and their efforts at reducing chemical use. I too am an advocate of treatment free, but when/ if necessary I would not allow a colony to die off with so many safer soft chemicals available today. I don't believe there is any one single approach that is good for every colony. Good bee management is and always has been the key to success and that does sometimes call for soft chemical treatments. It's far more important to keep an open mind and learn as much as you can about each of your own colonies. I'm assuming of course you are not a commercial operation and it is possible for you to do so. Best of luck to you and your bees!
@@LtDan-ni5rw well I'm not rabidly against treatments that are absolutely necessary. But my wish is to be treatment free. I'm trying to ensure there are plenty of different kinds of nectar and pollen sources for them and to feed them when necessary. Right now because I just got my bees I'm forced to feed with sugar but in the future that will be limited to emergency feeding. I intend to let them eat exactly what they need. Honey. I would rather feed them back every drop of their own honey than to feed them junk food (sugar). I would rather calm them with smoke or sugar water and lavender oil. This will calm them with the lavender oil and kick in hygienic behavior with the sugar water. So long as it's warm ( I live on the gulf coast so most any day) anyway. But make no mistake if everything I try to help them fails I will treat. But I would like to not.
The recent update by Mr Hoskins isn't good for bee keepers: 6th January 2019 "I am amazed - I have found it impossible to raise funding to further my research as it seems money goes to research labs where there may be an end product. I am an 88 year-old living on a low pension needing much money to “Roll-out” my very special Chemical-free honeybee."
I have expirience in Europe for over 6 years have big loses in USA for last 3 years unfortunately was lucky to make and figured what is problem my bees don’t have any crap isuues any more just treating them with Oxalic acid over winter me stop buying any queens from market they are 90% and will lead you for huge losses they are not resistent I wouldn’t give my queens for $50 bucks a peace what I went trough also man lake patties are crap making my own
So much more to this work than the brief newscast showed. Shame incorrect terminology used. Shame two completely different approaches (hygienist vs virology) were merged as though one. I see the virologist as a measurement tool (yes I know everyone swallowed his theory as fact) but I was disappointed the man who did years of work was not given more time to review the data from the virology lab. His reflections may have been insightful.
Something about the explanation smells of fuckery. They had a theory, Ron's example didn't fit the theory, they made up a reason for why. What bollocks.
Yes of course! The Varroa mite carries a virus that was unknown so they called it Varroa Virus. The high level of "b" virus protects against deformed wing virus.
Is there any update on this research? This video is three years old and almost every beekeeper I know in the UK is still using one form or another of chemical varroa treatment.
The ONLY way to go in beekeeping is OXALIC ACID. There is no bee that can survive more than 4-5 years without treatment. I have done experiments for years. People should treat their bees with formic or oxalic at least once per year according to the orders of the veterinarians. Bee can evolve to fight varroa but it needs centuries or thousands of years because varroa evolves too and it is quite possible after 100 years to survive even the acid treatments. I strongly believe that these mites evolve much faster than the bee especially the bee we have in our apiaries for honey production.
There is a larger group of treatment free keepers having success. I think saying the ONLY way is oxalic or formic acid treatment is naive. If the mites can evolve as quickly as you believe, then couldn't they become resistant to those treatments?
That is a very narrow approach. That's akin to taking a zpack for a cold because it presents similar symptoms as a sinus infection. Research has shown time and time again that that approach only creates more resistance over time and more mutations of the same condition. Sounds vaguely familiar to the verroa problems of today... Over use of chemical treatments when it's not necessary has caused the problems we have today. I'm not naive to the point of saying treatment is completely unnecessary, but certainly over used. Lack of proper testing of verroa seems to be the leading factor in the over use of chemical. We all panic when we identify verroa proliferation when really a pause and evaluation are necessary. Are they causing harm to the bees? If yes, then treat. If not then likely you have type "b" verroa and hygienic stock and no intervention is necessary. Why take a prescription for a common cold?
@@LtDan-ni5rw Great idea if you set up as a travelling laboratory you can go around the world testing beekeepers hives to see whether the bees are carrying type A or B varroa then the hive owners will know if they should treat that particular hive or not. Very happy to let you start with mine chemical treatments cost the earth.
@@JM-nd4kt I'm simply suggesting that the focus moving forward should be on identifying a threat and not assuming there is one. This can be done easily without a lab of any kind if you have experience. I see, more often than not, that whenever a hive fails and mites are present the blame is placed solely on the mites. Too many people choose to treat for mites with chemicals rather than to put in the hard work of educating themselves or managing through splits or use of nuc boxes. Every hive has mites, treatments or not, but that does not mean they have a negative effect. I would even argue that the presence of some mites could even be beneficial as they prevent proliferation of other, more harmful variants. It's very similar to the human gut bacteria in the sense that yes you have bacteria, but it's actually beneficial as it aids in digestion, but also prevents the proliferation of harmful bacteria that could make you sick. Similarly, you want to avoid the overuse of antibiotics that would kill off that helpful bacteria which could lead to devastating health conditions like c-diff. If you have bees, you have mites. The only question is "which mites do you?". want?
An excellent video, very interesting and informative. I've always wanted to keep bee's but I live in a built up area... blummin neighbours eh lol. THANKS FOR SHARING I'VE SUBSCRIBED 👍😆👍
Great video but why are there no runners in the hive? This means that the lugs sit flat on the inner panels potentially squashing bees. And you get a bee space above the frames. A strange mix of large spacers and hoffman frames too.
Very nice video, thank you so much for sharing. I completely agree that a lot can be learned about the colony health by simply observing the landing board. I'm also so glad you brought up the removal of brood and the possibility of a resource shortage, that makes perfect sense. I LOVE sipping cappuccino and observing the bees... but, it's winter, so we watch RU-vid vids :) Thumbs UP!
The issues with mites in my area continue to decimate colonies. I've treated for mites both chemically and naturally. The result this year (along with some colonies poisoned by homeowners applying lawn treatments) have been dismal. I'm seriously considering leaving my hobby of over 20 years. I had 32 colonies in August with low mite loads (2 or less per 100). Today 10/20 after inspecting my colonies, they suffer from parasitic mite syndrome, deformed wing virus, and overall low populations. Where I live the hives will not survive I'll be lucky to come out of winter with seven. These seem to be the best of any and are only mediocre in population and strength. I seem to go through this every few years. I raised my own queens for years (except this year with no time due to a death in the immediate family) hoping for that special characteristic. It's likely my hives have been robbing out other beekeeper hives in the area only to bring back mites, and viruses that just cause problems.
Bee Bob i doo feel you mate. I'm in love with beekeping and i also lost all my 5 hives in a month due to varroa. Queens stop laying, altho i treated and i found them dead. I almost cried :(
Bee Bob Hi. Drop chemical, and all other treatment, including acid. Make queens from your best survivers, ore make nucs with the old queens, and let the mother hive make their own queen. Only nucs for some year, and honey from a few, and you continue to make nucs from the survivors of the best nucs, also when they grow tobig for the nucs. Soon you will have many hives again, from your best survivers, bees with the best genes for surviving. Stop buying queens. They are not suitable for the beekeeping of the future. Also very important, make your bees ssmallcellbees 4,9mm. Different ways, but if you do as described, you will be beekeeper, also in the future. Resistantbees.com Kind regards from Denmark. Ole Grendahl.
bee Bob study up on regressing your bees to small cell.u can't just stop doing anything like some say or THEY Will DIE. But- u CAN eventually ...learn how to help ur bees along the way because this IS a process ,use drone comb to cull,reg mite checks,hygienic queens ,learn how and when to requeen to outbreed mites...u CAN stop doing anything but will have HEAVY losses before u get survivor stock that will defeat varroa,they can and its far better beautiful thing
@@olegrndahl1733 Yes....Small Cell Bees DO work. I've had bees for almost 9 years now and have never used standard size foundation, ONLY Small Cell foundation 4.9mm. I have lost some hives in our winters, but it was not varroa mite related. I have screen bottom boards and see no live or whole mites on the boards, just a shell or part of it.
we need to breed a bee type, that has better leg choppers for mites. and bees that recognize mites on other bees, and remove them from each other, like guard bees look for danger, have nurse bees find varroa anywhere in the hive. Not sure about hive beetles, bees need to kill the adults somehow, just not sure how, maybe turn them over like with sea anemones being turned over by fish.
