I swapped to halls on my steam deck and got better lap times on wrc7. I also swapped to halls on my ds4 controller and now it feels like I always wanted it to be. E.g riding the bike in days gone somehow feels much more intuitively. Under the line I would recommend to compare using a race game and check it the average lap times come out better or worse. That would give you real measurements other than chasing balls... lol
tbf i would rather have a hall effect stick optimized to do something about the small noise so its fully working for longer and doesnt wear down at all than the basic one that, while better when brand new, can still mess up from the get go (i bought a brand new xbox one controller and it's stick already has a small bit of drift that can only be quelled via deadzone)
Hey buddy, this tool is not for someone that’s only going to use it once or twice, it’s for someone thats in the business of replacing hundreds of joysticks.
This tool is worth every penny, I can take off and install them joysticks within seconds. I use the tool to also install the joystick. I just installed the gulikit tmr joysticks in my ps5 controller, hands down by far the best sticks in the market
@@GregRosolowski Just checked them out but why do people rate them so low in reviews? i believe these reviewers dont know how to install or calibrate them but im gonna pick them up for my Xbox controllers.
Hey quick question so for the DualSense Edge controller the sticks easily to replace, but what I want to know Sony sell DualSense Edge module on its own separately is that the only module that will fit DualSense Edge controller, or I can use other third party ones does anyone know? Hope my question makes sense.
Couldn't you partner up with a company or make a deal with this? You could take risk starting a professional business with this building a small team. Also can i buy that controller with those joysticks.... nvm i already know thats a no Also why don't you make a go fund me page?
@KNIFEDEFIANT I tried to contact analog manufacturers. Such as Alps, K-Silver, Favor Union. Not one response. I'm also in a new phase. I discovered how to add the deadzone snap in the center back. It's a perfect design and can change everything. But this will be tough to pull off on my own and protect my intellectual property so these big companies won't copy.
It hurts lowkey that you haven't made plans to sell these. I mean could you at least make special order request for a few people who are generally interested? The fact that you actually have a working real model is proof you shouldn't give up or forget about it. Could we wait for a company to maybe one day come out with a product similar or see your idea and make their own? Sure, but please don't let this idea go to waste and be taken to your grave. I'm into aim training on controller and play games like Aim lab, Valorant, and Rainbow Six Siege. I try using kontrol freeks, buying LIVEZONE, playing claw, buying hall effect sticks, trying new thumb placements, overclocking my controller, researching fly digi joysticks and all that because I'm that much of a nerd. Just pretty please with sprinkles don't have videos about this borderline revolutionary idea for joy sticks with proof using a real prototype in games just for it to be lost in the sands of time.
@KNIFEDEFIANT Thanks man. I'm not dropping the idea. At the bare minimum I might give a name to the mechanism so I get credited and make it open source for anyone to use, and potentially release my own without the worry of patents. I hope to patent it. But if I can't get the funding for that. They will be released anyway.
Sorry if its been asked already, but have you gotten a chance to try the fly digi apex 4? Also hope the development of your joysticks have been going well the concept / goal for what you're going for is a great idea.
@tsingh1992 yeah I'm gonna make a review since people were wondering if it's similar to what I'm developing. Spoiler: it's not at all, but still good quality and innovative. I still play better on a stock dualsense. The deadzone on the Apex 4 is really small, but it's very sharp and snappy. It's hard to make smooth micro adjustments.
50 bucks?? Ugh I just wanna desolder one joystick lmao. I'm struggling with my solder sucker. I bought some small kit on Amazon and I just can't desolder it... It's pretty aggravating. Any tips besides "go out and buy more stuff"? If that is the only solution, and I want to be frugal, is the best option desolder braid? I've been trying to add more solder and then use the desolder pump, but it doesn't appear to want to mix. Is that a thing or am I just bad at this? Could the original Nintendo applied solder be lead free and my leaded solder won't mix well with it?
@ThomasCrooksIsAhero if you have a heat gun, that's the older method of doing it, but you have to have insulation tape covering other parts of the board. Its also difficult... that's why I decided to make this tool.
@NewElGatoDany I hand machine them from copper and nickel plate them. I don't sell a ton, so I have to keep it at a higher price. This is for people who commonly replace thumbsticks. It's definitely not something for a one-time repair.
i got some hall effect joysticks from aliexpress for my series X controller, and it caused my sticks to be locked downwards if i move them up and down too much...
For Dualshock 4 there's a calibration tool software that removes the noise and set the min and max range (for better circularity) And the same calibration tool is available for Dualsense, you can check if this solves the accuracy and if you can't use the calibration tool for example in an Xbox controller, there's a board to enable a calibration mode directly in the gamepad Calibration is essential because this controllers are no supposed to use hall effect sensors so they aren't calibrated for this
@blackulrich yes! It's new for dualsense. Apparently the best sticks are the Favor Union hall sticks for speed and response, Ginfuls newest version for circular accuracy (new version from the ones in the video), and K silver hall sticks for in-between both. Nothing beats a new potentiometer stick yet, but its very close now!
Did you noticed that its hard to get this controllers ranges calibrated properly without having to add a sizeable outer deadzone? I constantly get uneven range values. I recalibrated it and everything, and it will not reach evenly in all directions. I hate having to reduce the sticks range to reach even values.
Have you tried installing the ginful hall effects in the nexus? I installed them but the controller wont turn on. I redid everything to male sure and it was right I dont know whats wrong.
I haven't. Maybe try the ds4 ones in multiple combinations. Try both black modules, then both orange, then black orange, then orange black. One of those combinations should work. If it doesn't fry the board that is. Hopefully nexus has a safety against electrical shorts
You mean take the module and try putting 2 black hall sensors on it, instead of the orange and black? I got the ds4 ones because nexus sticks runon 3.3v right? And if I swap the orange and black do I need to swap the magnets with it as well? Thanks.
Just recently hit 109k on controller. Didn't know exactly how good it was but apparently it is? It's so hard to consistently hit over 100k but I guess I've had a few lucky runs. I usually get around 90 to 95k per run. Nice job
Nice! My current best is 113K but I wasn't recording. I'm kinda over going for records because it can get in the way of actual aim training for me. I mostly play KovaaK's now, but I still play gridshot a lot because it's a fun task that satisfies my ADHD haha
@grayw2833 try spheretrack speed and spheretrack 90 speed as well. Both those would be excellent for CoD. Note the 90 version is really hard though. Gridshot helps with any game as well.
Yes but it does require more skill. You need a perfect amount of solder. If you have too much solder it can get pushed up through the holes to the other side of the board.
Yes but they had them in the older systems I am sure if you got it brand new out of the box they would work fine it's simply too easy to make money so they refuse to do it otherwise
I got some hall effect sticks installed on my controller last Sunday. They work great, and they feel very similar to dualshock if not a little smoother. They did have to be soldered on but I was lucky enough to find some help and videos on it. Definitely a good option if you have a drift problem. I'll update in a few months to give a full opinion on them
I just ordered the part that you selling because I want to try it because with Kontrolfreek it annoys me a little that the grip goes away and I'm also annoyed that I bought kontrolfreek on Amazon. I've now found out that quite a few fake kontrolfreek are sold on Amazon with significantly poor quality. Now I don't know if I even have the original one and I wanted to ask if someone could answer me if there is any problem with the part, how long exactly they last and how grip is?
you got old version hall sensor, plus you need to center it more manually. plus you need to use yhe online calibration. my ps5 with new hall effects is at 4-6% error in circularity test edit. there are SO many hal effect to chose from, ginful,ksilver, plus 3 more. and ps3 had hall effect
The material on the caps is a 3D printed TPU material. Technically it is rubber. However Version 3 of the thumbsticks is about to come out. It now uses a casted polyurethane (not 3D printed) the rubber that it uses is more soft and grippy, and has the same precision and fine detail texture found in mass produced controllers like XBOX and Playstation. V3 will have my classic cap shape as well as many other shapes.
Hall effect sticks solve the stick drift issue but you lose circularity and about 20% range. The ONLY way to get hall effect sticks to work perfectly in a Dualsense or Xbox controller is to also install Jun Zeng's driver modules. These give you fine control over setting the circularity, centre point and range. It's just a shame he isn't doing a better job at marketing the things!
@@GregRosolowski I never tried the old ones but have done a lot of the new ones. First couple of installs took a while but the more you do the easier they become. I find Dualsense is easier than the Xbox controllers, not because of the revised v51 module but because the Xbox controller PCB is so thick. It dissipates a lot of the heat so needs some gentle pre-heating first. Hopefully, Jun Zeng finds a way to market these things properly because there's a lot of hall effect installers out there who aren't really fixing controllers correctly.
@miker13 one thing that's really weird about these modules too is there's an input delay or smoothing, at least on the V3. I wonder if those blue K silvers Zeng includes has that as well.
@@GregRosolowski I didn't notice any delay at all. I recently completed Price of Persia: The Lost Crown on a controller with these modules and it would've been a major problem if there was any input lag in that game 😅
@miker13 this guy probably has the best video on these sticks. I almost feel guilty with how many views my video racked up when i see people doing stuff like this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_6DDGpdiuLU.htmlfeature=shared
this is a late review but I’ve been using the same clip on since dec 15 2022 the grip has barely worn still feels new. If anyone is considering buying some it’s worth it.
Cosigned. I've got over a dozen different sets of thumb grips, and these absolutely embarrass all of them. The way they attach, the shape, literally everything about them. Sure, a pair costs as much as two pairs of Kontrol Freeks, but these will last much longer than two pairs of KFs, and they'll look/perform better while doing it.
I recently got the hall effects for my xsx control and didnt get pcbs. Installed them. Got rid of drift, but they get stuck in one direction after a few seconds. is there anyway to get them to work without the pcbs?
Incredible do you have any plans to sell these stick modules in the future? I’m big into modding controllers and have been looking for stick upgrades while I wait on Marius heier’s sensors.
