The video is amazing! The only thing is that to me, it doesn't feel good that you're reading directly from a script (or at least it feels like that to me), it feels a bit weird although the writing is great
I agree, as this is my favorite FOB album of all time... What A Catch Donnie should've definitely been the last song. Especially with all of the call backs to their old material for previous projects.
i just started watching but thanks!!!!!!! this album is important to me and it deserved a good video essay/analysis it has so many themes explored in it and overall it's just so autobiographical/introspective and interesting
Personally, I feel like Folie having a true "finale" song...and then keeps on going, makes it feel more...intentional that it ends on West Coast Smoker. I have no idea what that intentionality says about the album as a whole, but I do know that it was probably not a mistake that West Coast Smoker is the album's finale instead of Donnie
for a very long time, my thoughts on whether panic was doomed from the start of not could've been mostly summed up as "a series of unfortunate circumstances". but then I learned about dallon not leaving the creative writing position of his own volition, and that it was just brendon who demoted him to touring member. so it was brendon's own decision. I feel like the guy is just....not fit to be in a band (that has other members in it) at all. he doesn't like to compromise, he hates when the spotlight isn't on him for a fraction of a second. I've read his official annotations on the genius article for "emperor's new clothes", it was pretty eye-opening. there he literally states, "i am panic at the disco". how much more explicit can you get?
It seems for everyone else except for Dallon was genuine, whether it be creative differences or Spencer who needed time to get better. It's still odd Dallon was demoted, unless part of the reason was because Dallon was getting ready to start idkhow but theres no other info. Brendons reasoning for saying that on the emperors new clothes apparantly cuz he was sidelined for a while and now it's just him, unless dude was being over the top just because, seeming from a lot of the old panic videos, tbf during too weird to live and the doab era was when Brendons ego seemed to be high before getting into the pray for the wicked album, but we will probably never know, and Dallon doesnt seem to want to talk abt it and move on with his project
Folie is my favorite FOB album by far and I haven't liked any of their albums since. Stardust is really growing on me and I just recently read that it is the first time they have brought back the same producer they used for FAD and IOH. I was curious to know if you have a similar analysis of Mania, since you actually like that album. I think it is their worst ever, but since your analysis of this was soo amazing and enlightening I was wondering if that might help me appreciate Mania a bit more. Also, I always thought W.A.M.S. stood for "Wet and messy sex".
Do you think that they kept the band name because they signed a deal, (which we know, most deals with a label requires a certain "amount" of records released within a certain time frame), perhaps it would have been too costly to not "fullfil the bands legal obligation" via that contract? Could have bankrupt them all to take it to court and fight out of it, no one else would have signed them afterwards, it could have been detrimental to all of them either way they did this.
Multi-record contracts are not as common on indie labels, and both DCD2/Decaydance and Fueled by Ramen fall under that umbrella. I find it unlikely that they'd be holding Panic! to a long record contract but not Fun. or Gym Class Heroes
i barely even watched the video im just here for the comments, and your replies to people have me dying😭💀 why are you being so rude replying to people?
Very well put together. I have attempted to look this stuff up myself but got overwhelmed by all the strong options surrounding different band members and so many conflicting reports, so having your video recommended to me was a welcome surprise. An interesting update could be how P!ATD is officially disbanded now and how that came to be, but I suspect people would want that video to turn into a Brendon Urie hate video
Brent Wilson left the band in 2006 by cause lack of responsibility no why they choose Jon in the first place Jon doesn’t just play bass he could sing play guitar & play drums & drums that’s why on May 13 2006 Jon replaced Brent on bass
I agree with pretty much everything you said in your analysis omg. 27 is my absolute favorite song and What a Catch should ABSOLUTELY have been the last track on the album. I've been saying that for years
AWESOME VIDEO!!!!.!!!! love this band.the water park. i was at the baltimore signing, the wyatt guy was weirdly nice to me ? kept calling me Cool Person (i had a frog hat and trans flag??😭) and like made sure i got my flag signed as well i was uncomfortable to say the least , ESPECIALLY after seeing everyone elses interactions
this is a wonderful video!!! you articulated so many of the feelings i have about my favorite album and it was so wonderful to hear about your perspective on it!!!! good work!!
The oddball album that nobody understood at the time ❤ Even as a huge fallout boy fan (since evening out with your girlfriend days) I wasn’t big on this album at first. However years later I fell in love with it.
My respects, this is a really good video although I should mention something else about the split of the band in 2009. So basically Ryan and Jon were already planning to leave before the last pretty odd show. By that time they already knew something wasn't working. Afterwards they spent months barely talking about the new album so Ryan and Jon decided to sit down with the other two and speak about their situation. They came to the conclusion that the best thing for everybody was to split like they did. So to me it was a consensual decision made by all 4 of them. Here's the video of Ryan talking about this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MgXC3Tlgeyw.html
Amazing video! I love hearing other's analyses of all FOB albums, but this album specifically I love to hear other's takes on because I feel like every time I go back to it I often have a different insight on the lyrics, or they might just have a different meaning for me and where I'm at in my life when I revisit. Such an amazing album, and I love the facts about the band and the press at the time that you brought up, it really makes a difference knowing the headspace of the band while they're working on an album. w.a.m.s. is also one of my favorite songs probably of all time and I had no fucking idea that Pharrell had a part to play in the production of it! That man is EVERYEWHERE!!! This is my first video I'm watching of yours and I'm honestly not even finished with it while writing this, even five minutes in though, I could tell this was gonna be a good watch. Keep it up, I'll definitely be watching more of your work when I finish this masterpiece
I loved this soooooooo much, I could listen to people talk about fall out boy in so much detail for hours at a time. Well done on so much awesome research and in depth analysis!!
