That's just home made, as described in the video. I could do a bit more in detail but really it's just a couple chunks of 1.5"x3" tube with some holes drilled in it as needed, plus the special mounts from Weistec.
Loving all this data. Thank you for sharing! Apologies if you mentioned this, and I missed it, but will you be doing a test without the RTT? Would love to see the efficiency impact of your new wheels vs stock without the tent.
Not really planning to at this point, the percentage gains (4% in the city and 2% on the highway) should hold true regardless of if the RTT is on or not.
I'm glad to see aftermarket options for this truck. I honestly think the factory wheels you initially chose look better. To each their own. Hope they serve you well!
Since wheel spin is an issue, it is possible to do custom brackets. I forgotten how to do it, but you can do custom brackets in dragy so that you could glean out say, your 30 to 60 or 30 to 90 times and that way you can get rid of all the wheel spin you could be rolling and you can compare that and I’ll bet you that you will get a difference between the stock rims and the lighter rims for acelleration
lol. Love the “going to see Seabiscuit”. I have lived here for years and never knew about that statue. On the wheels, I’m surprised about opened wheels being more efficient. Great video! Thanks.
I have a rack on the bed (xtrusion overland) for putting a RTT on so I still have access to the bed. Most of the time I drive around without the RTT on, but the rack is always on, and roughly flush with the roof. Thoughts on closing the vents off in that situation?
@@MotorsportUnplugged output would actually go right under the crossbar. Driving around with the rack empty, im sure theres all sorts of wild airflow in that bed area. Need a wind tunnel!
Since I added on the Falken Wildpeak I think I am sitting at 106lbs per wheel with the stock wheels. I am just worried about aftermarket wheels cracking.
Fwiw forged wheels should be more likely to bend when over-stressed than cast wheels (instead of crack/shatter). That being said, the short track record here with Atomic leaves some doubts and unknowns...TBD
Thank you for your videos. They are very helpful to Rivian owners. Although I’m not a Rivian owner, I am a RIVN owner and you’re very helpful to the community. 😊
Thanks for all the great videos about the R1T! Would you mind telling me what induction stove and cast iron griddle that is? They seem to fit together so well. Also, did you make the camp kitchen yourself? I hope I am not missing a video about these things but I didn't see one.
Camp kitchen (including induction cooktop) is made by the fine folks over at Thunderbolt Adventure Supply: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Sytq21OGG0A.html
I too have the dual motor max pack but have the 21" wheels. I drive about 4k miles a month, live in the South Bay, if you ever need high mileage experiment lmk.
Yup agree, I've reached out to a contact I have at EVBASE to see if they might be interested in making some sort of 3D printed or maybe sculpted foam block to make plugging/unplugging the vent easy and more robust.
Wind direction and temperature will play a big part as well. Maybe note it next time as it gives more context on the results. The gain does look promising!
You go on a diatribe about how the AC inverter eats your range, then at the end of the video you have wide-open wheels that are really aero inefficient. That seems a bit hypocritical. Also your math for the cooler battery runtime doesn't add up. First, a 190 Wh usable battery can only power a 40W load for about 5 hours, not overnight. If the cooler battery drains overnight, because it's only 60W input with a 40W load, the 220 Wh battery only gets charged with 20W. So it would take almost 11 hours to charge fully while running the cooler at the same time, not 4 hours.
While possibly good point on the wheels, stay tuned for the next episode where we dig into that efficiency or not. 50lb less rotational mass vs. more open face rims, place your bets!
You know yes it does, but the battery is absolutely tiny. Worse, much like the AC inverters, the HV>12v charger requires the computers to power up. Part of this series will be discussing that issue too...
I had the same question and look forward to that discussion later in the series. Briefly, does the Rivian detect that the 12V battery needs to be charged up and then run an HV->12V charge cycle to do it? If it doesn’t, then the risk is that you have a bricked EV in the morning. If it does, then there’s obviously a cost to running that charge cycle, but is it limited just to the time required for the charge? In other words, the trade-off here would be running the fridge all night on 120V with the inverter powered all night vs running the fridge on 12V with [whatever black box handles HV->12V] running only for as long as necessary (presumably not all night).
I think it goes without saying that the first generation Rvian vehicles were far from optimized. The second generation appears to be much better. Probably the best answer to your issues is to buy a second generation truck.
There are some real cons to go with the pros of the R1.2 trucks. Smaller frunk, no physical door handles, probably no silicon carbide power inverter on the rear axle for the Dual Motors. Yes the new electrical/computer system would be great to have, but it's not all upside...
Oh I feel your pain. Having the XC60 PHEV (that you know in and out) and we go camping in a non rooftop tent with it. We have a 1kWh Ecoflow and oh how I wish we could top it up with a 230V AC plug from the car. Just quickly as it supports very high powered charging and then shit the car off. But the XC60 PHEV doesn't offer that. So we have to have the whole car active to activate the 12V outlet to recharge the ecoflow... What a waste of energy. You basically have to hold the battery charge in the XC60 to be able to have the car sitting idelling for hours and hours over the weekend to re-charge the ecoflow to run the cooler and our phones and cameras. And then you drive home on petrol as you'd have to anyways.... But still
So the cute trick I figured out with my old XC60...was to literally hard wire a 12v connection from the vehicle's battery (a very nice large AGM, vastly bigger than the Rivian's) to my Bluetti camp battery. The camp battery would slowly soak up power until the voltage dropped enough for the Volvo to cycle on the HV>12v recharger, it would do it's thing, and then the process would continue and repeat. Much better than actually turning the vehicle on.
Some more detail for you since you're actively in the market...lost 8% in mixed driving, but I suspect that is significantly due to the roof vents directing air to slam right into the RTT. I've heard closing those vents can be a boon to efficiency and will be testing that...does the F150 roofline have similar aero tricks?
@@MotorsportUnplugged no f150 has no tracks, I think that side awning you have it taking most of the extra energy. I am going to try to keep everything behind my real glass. just did a 1200 mi trip with 4 bikes on a rack in the back and got 2.0 to 2.3mi/kwh depending on speed
Why not have a 2 sets of wheels, one for tarmac/daily use, then your offroad/camping set. And the new wheels look good but are they strong enough for off road use? I dont recognize the manufacturer.
Great video! I have the BougeRV fridge that I keep in my frunk and use for local grocery shopping. It gets too hot in there during the summer months and road tripping so I put it in the gear tunnel or truck bed on road trips. This last road trip up to Silver Falls in Oregon and down the Oregon coast, I folded up the right rear seat and set it on top of the sub woofer for easy access. Power drain was about 5% per night when we were at campsites without hookups. BTW...a couple of your Amazon links are duplicated/missing.
Yeah the Frunk is always going to be toasty because the AC radiators dump their heat against the tub, check out the Munro & Associates teardown of that area, it's an...interesting design choice. You have an early R1.1 with the 12 plugs in the frunk?
I don’t think the BougeRV itself is the cause for your 5% power drain; it’s your Rivian’s AC inverter and whatever else. because I can run my BougeRV freezer/fridge combo on my Ecoflow 1 kWh battery and still have a lot of charge left after a 10-12 hour day. That’s why I recommend anyone who is doing a lot of road tripping or camping to use a portable battery’ power station. It also comes in handy for keeping the MacBooks and iPads charged with built in USB-C ports and eliminates the need to carry the big AC adapter blocks on the trip.
Did you try the Range Rover Evoque/Discovery Sport PHEV? They have the same configuration which we call "Axle Split". We developed parts of that car and it's quite capable offroad as long as you take care to the ground clearance :)
Here is the real issue. It’s not asking for 10% more money. Because the $7500 tax rebate is eliminated after $79,999, the real cost is not $10k more. It’s $17.5k more. While it’s not Rivian’s fault but it is their problem to solve.
Actually a taller tire requires more force to turn the tire, so lower fuel mileage. And raising the body does increase the airnresistence and lowerinf your mileage even more.
did everyone is the group air down to the same PSI? that makes a difference so trying to understand if that was equal. from this test, seems like there's no real advantage to the quad in off-road situations but in certain situations the dual actually has the advantage? wth is the quad for other than bonkers 0-60 and torque vectoring?
Oh no, the 30'ish R1s with us that day, while we all got the same air-down recommendations from the event organizers, certainly didn't air them down the same way, this was not an organized comparison test but a great day at the off-road park playing with our toys on the same obstacles. As for the Quad, well it was first, it is very fast, and the new quad will no doubt be even more bonkers.
It works, though I did have to pull 3 teeth from the top board. We will be shooting a more real "review" of the tent while camping this weekend near Yosemite, will be sure to show that 👍🏻
Another theory I have is the minimum arrival on intermediate stops forced them to that waypoints charger rather than arriving with a very low SOC at the EA charger.
Agree that's a possibility, Rivian doesn't currently allow a way to set the minimum SOC at those mid-waypoints. ABRP sure can, so hopefully that trickles down before long.
I wonder if the Out of Spec team unknowingly had the charger ratings limiting charger locations in the Rivian nav. If the EA station they wanted the Rivian to route to had a 'C' or lower rating and the nav was limited to selecting 'B' or better rated chargers, it would explain the preference for the Rivian waypoint charger.
Yes but, to be clear there are no 'charger ratings' in the onboard route planner, as shown in this video. There is for the Nav map charger display filter, and while that _could_ trickle down to the route navigation settings, nothing else does so not much reason to imagine ratings against all odds, do.
As soon as I saw the video I checked and I didn't see preference for RAN. But I think I did in the past. I think they may have tweaked the software. I have seen bad route planning. But they are getting better with time.
I really would like to get an EV for road trips but stopping every 140 miles is too much for me. I would need a battery that has 700 mile range so I could stop at 275 miles. Surprised at the cost. I had to do it twice to be sure but in my ICE suv that trip would be just over $600
I hear you...if you wanted something that could drive for 3-4 hours straight, at any practical speed in any weather, while only using say 60% of your battery capacity because you're road tripping and need to save 10% at the bottom at skip 30% at the top so you can recharge fast and keep rolling, that would be something in the 600-700 EPA mile range. We'll get there in 5-10 years, the R1 Max and Silverado are just the first taste of that ideal.
@@MotorsportUnplugged well if you’re making a video this informative, it’s important to hit those details appropriately. Love your videos - they are helping us make an informed decision!
I like your point about the EV journey being more relaxed. I have found that to be the case with the trips I have taken with my Taycan. There is feeling of rush, rush, rush. It also gives you a bit more time to explore things that you might not otherwise have seen or done.
