I gót my Rtx 3070 and i dont ever need to use gpu sag bracket cuz gpu was 3 slot but whole gpu hat front amd back made from metal and all it was mounted with scrzes and belived or not all it hold up togeather perfectly 3scrues was enough and there was no sag. I upgrade to rx 7900gre and this is also samé size gpu slightly more heavy but i noticed that this gpus sag quite a lot even tho gpu is made very well is allso metal conected directly to cooler so its very good but i noticed very small sag and i mesured it with digital measuring tool and its give mé basicly 4mm low on the right side sooo i get my hands and start looking for some stuff and i find really cheap full metal bracket with rubber stads and there was multiple sizes and one that you can actually made your own custom so i pick it up it was Like 12 eur plus shipping as i said very cheap but it does what is should i made it inytentionally still lIttle bit low on right side around 0.2mm to bé exact so i dont pushing it up more than enough so yeah bracket is great tuff and you need it plus you dont need rizer cable at all brakes is fine you just need to use it cirrectly and definitelly IF you buy gpu it allways costly item make sure you buy support for it cuz as it mention in video when this things broke its nôt cheap thing to repair and almost all shops will avoid to repay you and they void your varanty for sure cuz this is gonna bé mechanic al damage.
I do not like risers I prefer good case I use Cooler master HAF XB EVO, mainboard is installed horizontally and my GPU vertically. One down side they stop making them 10 years ago.
@@TechnologyHive I use this same Case and CPU cooler Noctua D14 for over 10 years already. Case weight a lot more compared to modern one quite thick steel sheets used. I still use Hot swap HDD bays :)
Rejoice you are gonna get more work like this soon. The new titans is said to have 2x the performance. You know what that means, more heavier heat sinks!
@@StudyWithNika I think common sense comes into play here. My rule of thumb is that if the card is longer than my motherboard is wide, and it takes 2.5 pci slots, it goes on a riser. But this is just me.
If a person has a huge GPU the correct method is to mount it either vertically or horizontal in a case. Putting that much pressure on the motherboard and case is a very dumb idea.
Would you recommend vertical mounting a msi 4090 gaming x slim card ? They are a bit smaller but would it benefit in the long run to have it vertical apposed to horizontal mounting. I have had mine horizontal for the last year and it seems fine I bought a 3rd party gpu brace when I picked up the card as well.
i used it on my laptop, i5 12450h, and it did wonders. before, with thermal grizzly hydronaut, i was hitting thermal throttle at 95c instantly, after it would pass 40w. with ptm7950, i can easily go to 80w for a period of time, and it can sustain around 65-70w now. direct die applications seem to benefit more. although, i didn’t see such a major improvement with the rtx 4050 in that laptop.
Heard Der8auer saying there'll some "application oil" in next version to ease up installation. For my part I used a tiny dot of TP to make the thing stick in place But wtf using $20 Kryosheet on a GPU hardly worth more lol
@pascaldifolco4611 I would only recommend this stuff if you just want to never take your gpu apart again. It performs well compared to traditional pastes. But I would not pay for this stuff myself. Not worth the cost, IMO.
Hello, I tried this, and it is not stable in my case (I got a blue screen). My specification is: r5 5500, TUF Gaming B450M Plus II, Patriot Viper Elite II Red 4000 MHz. Maybe you have some tips for me? Or I just got a bad kit of RAM.
@@TechnologyHive Thank you! It looks like it works. The last time it didn't work was because I used xmp for 4000 mhz instead of 3600 mhz, and my PC gave me a blue screen. Good Luck with your channel You deserve more subscribers for such good content.
Bought a ASUS 4070 TUF a while back and it had a support that came with it but I found it really flimsy to deal with. Greg Salazar actually recommended a support that works really well from Lian-Lee as it fixes on to the motherboard and case. One thing I did do was make sure I installed the card and support with the PC on it's side. That way I can see where the support needs to go to better support and just gently rest on the card. If the support was tight to the card causing it to rise i'd say that's where you get thermal flexing under serious load which as bad as card sag with no GPU support. Ideally I would recommend vertical mount if you can afford it but it would also need to have decent airflow as depending on how big the card is, the closer you are to the tempered glass the less air to the GPU you get. Also could be another reason for horizontal cases to make a come back like what I had with my old 386 back in the day
The problem, is that j have had the sliding down of thermal paste from the core (not istantanely, bat after a couple of months) mounting gpu in vertical position ... and so core hotspot hitting 100°. It's better mount the gpu in horizontal position (imho)
Hi I have xfx rx6800 and i am using a metal gpu support pillar at the end of my gpu to hold it up from sagging. there wasn't much sag in first place. would my gpu be fine?
@EgoisticAxis606v2 Unfortunately, I can not predict what the outcome will be on each and every situation. I can only say that the common denominator with all these heavy graphics cards coming in for repair is that they were installed horizontally with or without support. I would definitely use a riser.
I have a ROG Stix 4080 and it is massive. I did have it on a riser for a while but it just wasn't getting good air flow making my whole setup hot. I did notice that the mounting bracket on the card is connected to the whole case of the card so it is pretty solid when connected straight to the mobo. I have it in there now with no support and it doesn't have any sag.
This is not a "graphic card error" but the fact that 2 and 3 fans have different weight points. The correct way is to NEVER use a single point. Use 1 support point with card that have 2 fans and 2 support points on cards with 3 fans and then no card will get damaged. Ever used that method in my laboratory and suggested that with all the customers that requested that to me and noone of them had a card getting damaged even after years.
@BryanTheFury Funny, because I keep getting cards in for repair due to their weight and being installed horizontally with or without support. Heavy cards need to be on a riser, period.
@TechnologyHive For what it's worth, all cards are expensive in my opinion, even the 3060 Strix I snagged in the Newegg shuffle. Plus I got other expansion cards in my system as well.
@@SOU6900 Ah a 3060 is not so expensive in case it does bite the dust. And if you are well established in your system, a move to a new one may just turn out to be a headache.
@TechnologyHive 😆 It was expensive back then because I was on fast food level pay, but that was then. If need be, I can pull my expansion cards and move the m.2 from the x4 card to the motherboard, but I don't know how much it will affect the gpu to go from 16 lanes to 8. If I recall, Cooler Master makes a conversion bracket anyway that I can toss in my case as well since it's also a CM product.
this only applies to triple fan cards right? my 2060 super (msi gaming x model) only has 2 fans but its hefty - its held up by a plastic pipe in the middle atm so i wonder if a vertical mount would work better here
@@TechnologyHive my cheapo B550 does 4733 actually. but the memory controller will give up before i could reach that anyway xd. I found some 4x8 bdies yesterday on eBay for 50€. i try to get them
@@TechnologyHive I read something recently about thermal problems if vertically mounting gpus with the i/o pointing upwards but didn't understand why and didn't follow up on it.
@@Eric-un2oq That is if you install the card vertically near the side panel. You chock the card out of airflow like that. But using a 3rd party mount is a different story. Works perfectly.
MSI mag b650 tomahawk wifi takes 57.8sec to boot if you have your memory set 6000 anything above 4800 is OC to MSI. In opinion MSI is the best system board at all. I will replacing mine with ASRock. Anything above 4800 is considered an overclock so we cannot guarantee stability above the JEDEC standard. You are free to close the ticket on your end as we cannot. You can also ignore any emails about an open ticket and it should close on its own. Regards MSI Support
For anyone new to ptm7950 rummaging the comments here are my personal experience with it. -I used it on a laptop direct on die -I used it on a CPU -I used it on a PS4 Thermals were amazing for everything although I dont know how I can measure ps4 temps I just trust its working its magic in there. -ptm7950 supposedly lasts a very long time. To the point the device itselfs shelflife will be the concern rather than the ptm7950's shelf life. -put the sheet of ptm7950 in the fridge for about an hour or something before handling it. It makes it harden and easier to handle. -admittedly it is still really a b*tch to handle no matter what and might leave bald spots upon application. If that happens its perfectly fine to run another sheet on top of the bald spot, they'll just all melt together anyway. -ptm7950 performance actually gets better and better as time passes and it thermal cycles (melt, solid, melt, solid). When its fully cooked you might end up with better temps than when you started, maybe 2 or 3 degrees lower
@sparda9060 But, it should not be the case. The average person buying one of these things wants get it installed and get to using it. It's the way it should be. The error here having to add pillars or other supports to these now very heavy cards. One should not have to do that. Best way to protect your purchase is to put it on a riser. Done.
GPUs have simply outgrown the ATX standard form factor and pcie x16 slot. Instead of add-in card slots we should have a dedicated pciex16 socket that connects with the back of the pcb. It would fix all the issues with board power and cooler clearance as well. PCIE SIG should have been working on this years ago.
