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Main reason for example fo Bosh products is low quality plastic parts built in.And dangereous thing is they know about this part quality but they dont tell truth to you about unprognosable liftime of this parts. Be ready for flooded apartment or house.
Hello, would the 30kw be sufficient for a 6 bedrooms house, 2 bathrooms and 12 radiators? I need a conventional boiler. Not sure if i need to replace my old cylinder. Thanks
Hello a 30kW will definitely cover 12 radiators, when we quote for conventional boilers we look at water speed so maybe carry out a quote on the site. In terms of cylinders we sadly do not replace old cylinders but the engineer on the day may recommend getting a new one and possible quoting you privately.
Hi, how to setup recirculation pump only 1 time a day? The plumber has set it to start several times a day, automatically operated I guess, but for me is annoying. Best regards.
Hey the LoPro error code relates to Low Boiler Pressure, if you watch our How to top up boiler pressure video you will be able to open up your filling loop and top up the boiler pressure. You can find your boiler pressure under Boiler status in the settings. You may also have the keyless filling loop which is a blue tap under your boiler
From your Hive dashboard, tap on the Menu, and then select ‘Manage devices’. Next, tap on the device you wish to remove, and then simply tap ‘Delete device’. This then allows the new owner to reset and add through the app. Hope this helps!
Glad you've addressed this. My new boiler looks fab - Glad to have it on show - But there's a lot more pipe work exposed as it now goes around the boiler instead of behind it on the old one (so that the flue would still fit the hole in the wall).
Yes I found it a common issue after all the jobs i visited and after my own install personally. Not everyone likes the look of pipework! Glad this video resonated with you
Could you please help me, I just got this exact boiler installed but I have absolutely no clue how to turn on the heating for the radiators, I know how to set the temperature but that’s as far as I can go, it says its in eco mode
as long as your boiler is turned on it would usually be the programmer/thermostat that controls your heating temperature and on/off periods. Have you tried one of our helpful thermostat videos?
I'm not tech savvy so may be having a senior moment. Am I to assume that if my room target temp is below the room temp (larger numerals in the middle of the screen) my heating is off, and I can still get hot water? Sorry if this sounds dumb. Many thanks
I try and use the dedicated manufacturers controls to get the load comp etc. I use a lot of Vaillant VSmart rather than the nest/hive 'on-off'controls. 👍
we had our boiler fitted 2 and a half years ago so I thought its time we had it serviced they servied it in march this year but since they servied it the pressure goes done to in a about a week the engineer came back checked th boiler and all raidiators but could not find any leaks could it be th relief valve or the exspansion chamber thet is causing the pressure to drop there is no sign of leaks anywere I have checked quite aa few time I evening took floor board up on the landing as I had some work done some months ago all dry any ideas please
Hey this does sound unusual it could well be the relief valve or the expansion vessel. Have you inspected the relief valve pipe outside your property? It should look like a copper pipe coming from the wall and bending in on itself, If the pipe is wet or there are signs of water coming out of it in the past it could be a sign of a fault with the valve or expansion vessel.
Hi i have been a boiler engineer for 33 years now and to be honest i would not pay for one with my own money. It is nothing but plastic rubbish. I have never seen as much plastic in a single boiler.
Very interesting angle and I appreciate your thoughts. Have you had issues with the plastic parts over the years or is it just because you know they are made from plastic that makes you feel uneasy. Of course high quality or even brass components would be more sought after but if it brings the price down without any actual downsides, is there any harm?
No matter how good the plastic is, in due course it is going to go brittle and then break / leak. In my opinion the less plastic the better. That condensate trap on the 8000 series - what is that all about ?? I have always maintained that if the designers had actually to work on the boilers when in situ , they would design them much better.
Hi, you seem to infer that the WB thermostat does modulation, & that the Nest & Hive thermostats do not??, I have a WB 8000 being fitted this week, & I have a Nest thermostat/programmer. I read that from 3rd gen onwards allows modulation of the boiler?
Worcester do not support opentherm which you would need to allow a thermostat such as the Nest to modulate the boiler. If you want the best compatability I'd go with the easy control, this will offer weather compensation or load compensation depending on which setting you choose. The new nests do offer modulation but it would have to be with an opentherm compatible boiler to make the most of this. Don't be put off however, the 8000 is a great boiler and is super efficient. Using any Nest with this boiler is still a great combination and you can make the most of the majority of features.
I had a problem with 2 previous Hives, having about 5 meters of range before it disconnects from the receiver.. 1 house was a bungalow aswell.. was a nightmare selling them the hive and it not working properly.. called technical and they said I need a booster.. even though the thermostat and receiver is less than 5 meters apart.
If you switch to manual it will ignore any programs. Or just overwrite it to how you want it to be - overwrite the same way you would set the program in the first place
These are poor quality...mine is causing problems ..now the gas fitting inside is gone...making a whistling noise...plummer told me get a bosch ....he was right...guy has to fit a new gas fitting inside it...just as well its under warranty...just 4 years old...
I would narrow it down to appearance, where is your boiler going? Do you care what it looks like or the colours etc. And price? Is there that much difference? And warranty - if warranties are the same and the 4000 is considerably cheaper I would always take the cheaper option and treat yourself to a fancy thermostat or put it towards your bills
My heating comes on at around 3AM. This wakes me up every night. Is there a way of keeping the days around 17° and shutting the boiler off at night. Thanks.
Hi please can you explain, I have a cast iron fronted coal burning back boiler, which has radiators and heats rooms. Is it possible to have a new combi boiler installed and still retain my coal burning function? thanks
This sounds very much like a speciality job which we wouldn't do at iHeat. We only do swaps removing the old boiler and capping off the old pipework. Whilst it may be possible, iHeat personally would not take that route. Sounds like a very interesting idea however and we wish you the best of luck. May I ask why you want to keep it?
Have done a comparison of the Mini vs full size, and felt the Mini had more chance at a fairer battle! Mini is a great option and does everything the full size can just within the app
5:10 how the hell do u have p1-p6. Customer wants heating on/off at 3 separate times a day but her t3r only has p1-p4. Every other video had I watch only had p1 p2 p3 p4 yours had p1-p6 🤯🤯🤯 help my brain out please!
I'm afraid I've never noticed this, could ours be a newer model / or firmware possibly? I'd recommend going to Honeywell directly as they're customer service have always been top notch
There are points where i will have to disagree with you, having been fitting smart home setups and smart thermostats in a range of properties for a long time. I have learnt allot and thought i would share and may make a good place to revisit some topics or points. 1. Hive are terrible stats, they are good if you want just a system with remote controls and maybe have more heating tuning with more schedules. Theres nothing else more to say. A very basic stat with little future possibilities. 2. Tado's have a far superior trv which can call for heat so if you have a certain room that doesnt retain heat as well it can trigger the heating to come on and take the chill out of said room, so that is perfect for a babies room. Yes expensive trvs but with a 4 pack you can cover most bedrooms in a standard uk house. Tado with opentherm is abit of a can of worms but once understood is amazing. The UK wired is the only version that supports opentherm as it was removed from the wireless as they thought it wasn't diy friendly. The wired is a pain as many houses do not have the correct amount of wires from the wiring center to wire in opentherm so the wireless is the way to go. The UK wireless unit is £100 with no opentherm, but you can buy the euro wireless version for about £200 which has opentherm. 3. The nest 3rd gen learning is amazing really supple on the heat like the tado and not too agressive which keeps flow temps down and better condensing. But you mention the E version is not worth it. This i have to disagree with, it is centered at a diy install which is soo easy, even if you have very basic knowledge of wiring or just look up a 5 minute video on youtube. The E is also opentherm ready and learns just like the 3rd gen, it also has a seperate temp sensor for the control unit and the hub which they say adds to accuracy. Very much worth it, but depends heavily on whos fitting it and the desired outcome. 4. Trvs in general, if you have a better insulated house with proper cavity walls and a condensing boiler. Shutting off radiators can actually impact efficiency of the heating system, so best practice would be if you want trvs is to get them for bedrooms and have them limit the heat down to a lower temp overnight for more comfortable sleep. If you have a very uninsulated house with lots of temp variance then they can be used to try and get a more even distribution of heat within the property. Overall a good video and some valid points, but the whole smart heating is still in its infancy and the education of the consumer is low and i consider offering a smart thermostat without any ebus or opentherm isnt smart and just a wireless thermostat and is why i do not rate the hive one bit. It offers the end consumer nothing to gain and though smart advertising and bad recommendations has come to be the powerhouse it is, but in reality belongs in the bin. I got into everything smart though smart home installs and mini home servers to automate everything within the home and educated myself in regards to stats. There are pitfalls with every brand and there unfortunately isn't a one stop shop for home heating equipment and i feel nest is slowing the development which is a pitty and tado are apparently prepping for a big relaunch of a new home thermostat which does everything. So the nest few years will be interesting in regards to smart thermostats
Have you seen the Hive TRV's can now call for heat too like the tados? Really interesting few points there, i think Hive is definitely more of a people pleaser than a tool, i agree with you where you say its more through smart advertising, but sometimes thats all people want - a simple solution and sadly most people don't care about modulating, efficiency, they just want whatever is put in front of their eyes and whatever has the shiniest face. Would you agree the Hive is the easiest to install and for the most basic diyer, the go to solution?
@iheat the hive is super simple and now the nest e which is literally 2 wires. So both are the go to easy diy installs. One thing with the Nest e though (which I experienced today) is if you back out of the setup before setting up the heatlink, or delete the stat from the nest app before the heatlink is registered. It bricks the device and you need to speak to nest to have them send you a factory reset file to then inject onto the nest via a pc. I was upgrading the pre installed system to opentherm and when I was updating the stat to opentherm. The customer removed the stat from the app, thinking a factory reset was needed to change the protocol, so on reinstalling the stat via app thought is was part way though a install (as I was updating the protocol at the time) and you can't get to the system settings on the nest and just loops itself. It's crazy that the nest doesn't have a factory reset button on the back of the device. So apart from that the nest e is amazing diy, as long as you prep and follow the install steps to a tee, which is literally two wires, but again when updating protocols there is no clear information and risks involved if you don't follow the steps etc. But it does offer a future option of modulating controls. Even with this I would still recommend the the nest for any newer house with cavity and now you mentioned the hive has call for heat trvs I may recommend it for some older build properties.
Okay so the 8000 model has always been supplied with a Grundfos A rated pump. There was a time when they had to switch to Wilo for the 4000 range due to chip shortages, however there's no reason to believe this is an inferior product. Regardless, all Worcester Bosch 8000 products are being manufactured with High Efficiency Grundfos pumps at present.
Great video. I have a vaillent system boiler with 2 heating zones which has a unitherm setting but it is currently disabled. Do you know with a Nest stat will it just start modulating or will the installer need to adjust boiler setting and the wiring?
Who ever fits the stat will need to wire the boiler to opentherm, some boilers will have a setting you will need to change to opentherm but most don't like a ideal boiler. It is not worth fitting a nest if you have no intension for opentherm. In regards to the trvs, if you go for a nest I recommend the aqara trvs. These are good, not that expensive and they have the option to add a external temp sensor (which are cheap) which will improve the accuracy of the trv itself. If you were not going for a nest I would recommend a tado, better than a hive far better trvs that are part of the ecosystem (which can call for heat like a stat). By calling for heat they can add heat if let's say a baby's room drops below a desired temp, where others just limit temp. In short hive is trash, tado is good but the UK version doesn't have opentherm on the wireless model and nest is really good and ignore what he says about the nest E, it's point is that it's easy to fit even for a rookie and supports opentherm like the learning stat, it just looks abit cheaper but solid bit of kit. It has some shortcomings if you have a heat system that has a hot water tank but if yours is a combi boiler it's a easy way to get a new stat fitted
Yes as mentioned above it will all be down to how it is wired originally, be best getting in touch with whoever installed the system to see if they'd fit it for you with the wiring done correctly.
Can you confirm that Next opentherm will work on systems with 2 heating zones and hot water tank? Ie.. Will the boiler modulation be active for whichever part of the system is calling for heat?
@craigywild sort answer no, you can add another stat but it will only work as a on/off. So in all properties with zones I personally deactivate the zone valves and lock them open and run it as a complete system and if the customer wants a lower temp within bedrooms (which are usually the zones) they can lower it via the trv's. Doing it like this makes the system more efficient and simplified with less failure points. An you make the trvs your zone valves and keep the benefits of a modulating system throughout the property, its been proven having cold zones ruins efficiency and is better to keep at least some heat circulation within the non active zones to stop thermal bleed into the warmer areas of the property hence saving money
Okay so the 8000 model has always been supplied with a Grundfos A rated pump. There was a time when they had to switch to Wilo for the 4000 range due to chip shortages, however there's no reason to believe this is an inferior product. Regardless, all Worcester Bosch 8000 products are being manufactured with High Efficiency Grundfos pumps at present.
