I almost bought Anker due to the price but the solar input is the downfall of that model. The delta eco flow ultra is well thought out but I have seen a couple videos complaining about the power is dirty. Other than that and the price delta would be my pick. Keep in mind if your not trying to be mobile you can build a eg4 for about half the price
Topcon is a bifacial pannel, If it was a white painted surface at the back, I also saw a brochure which said use glass at the back for best results. The green grass background would have absorbed a large spectrum of sunlight which would have had affected results
Good video. Thanks for all the info. You only need to stay below the solar voltage limit. Amps are drawn, so the device will only draw the amount of amps it can use. In fact, it’s best to over panel some to ensure you’re getting peak input.
Thanks for watching! Yes, agreed on the voltage vs load. One of my upcoming videos I'll show 810W of solar going into a 300W max input. It's under the voltage limit so perfectly fine for the mppt. When I made this video the DP3 had not been released yet. I don't know how much interested there is in it but I could do that comparison now.
I being forced into backup because my local power company is going to turn off power during wind storms now. The spring wind storm lasted about 10 hours, but it was 4.5 days later that power was restored to the house because the power company had to visually inspect every inch of the system to insure no damage was done before re-energizing the system to my underground fed neighborhood. There is nothing cheap about installing the battery and solar cell backup. Even just a system to keep the freezer, refrigerator, furnace, and O2 machines running will cost over $10k using both generator and small solar power to recharge a 8kw system.
Hi guys, in my country recently the Electric Service sucks, i have zero energy 2 times in day for 10 hours (in two 5 hours cycle) I'm very new with this mini generator I need use in my basic laptop and a modem of 12w The laptop i want to use have a ryzen 5 3500u and 32gb of ram because probably the gamer use more energy. The router use 12w and works with optical fyber This Ecoflow river 3 how many hours of energy can provide me for this items in the same time? Considering the condition of the laptop (it needs stay connected because the battery is damaged) Its possible get more than 6 hours with the modem and the laptop connected? What is the real time i can get?
Not knowing how much power your laptop uses makes it harder to guess, but assume it uses on average 50W per hour and your modem is 12W, so 62W total. The R3 is 245Wh ,divide that by 62W and it is about 3.5-4 hours
@@solarguy thank you for the answer, in this case i assume the router needs bit energy no? only the router has 5,3 W static, in max consume can use 12-18 W, this device can be used for more hours?, only the router.
Great video on side by side comparison, just as I’m doing my own side by side. Learned some things that I couldn’t discover anywhere else, including in the manufacturers’ literature. Thanks for tipping the scales.
@@Amygdallama unfortunately, it seems they took away the launch promotion where you could get the water resistant bag too. If I see it again I can post online about it.
Since you offered to answer questions I will ask a couple. 🙂 I have the River 2 and I am wondering the best way to use it for CPAP during an outage. I understand that if I turn off the heat and humidity my Resmed s9 CPAP will draw about 60 watts. So that is not a full night. But I keep hearing that with DC power it will last longer. Is that true? If so, I am not sure how to put that into effect. I understand that the s9 is 24 v, but I don't know exactly what that means. So I am trying to figure out whether I should get this thing operating on DC power, and if so, how to do that. Thank you!
No problem. Yes, there would be an efficiency gain using DC because it takes some power to run the AC inverter. The R2 outputs 12v on the DC car port so you wouldn't easily be able to get to 24V with just a plug. Your best best is still to use the AC outlet in this case.
I just preordered the river 3 with 45w solar panel. I don’t know which panel they’re sending me. Have you tried charging the river 3 via usb c? Online it says that it can be charged with the usb c solar panel. (Power up RIVER 3 in only 2.6 hours with 110W solar input. Go even more portable with our 45W Portable Solar Panel (Type-C), which folds to the size of a laptop and charges electronics directly.)
Nice! There are lots of good options for solar panels so it depends on how much you plan to set it up/take down. The c1000 can take 600w of solar but I’m guessing one 200w portable panel would probably be a good choice. I like the Growatt 200w panel’s design because it’s fast to deploy and the kickstands are magnetic. Like I said, there are tons of good options so if you have questions on a particular one, let me know
Can the SHP2 function correctly with the Delta Pro Ultra and the Pro 3 connected to it? I have the panel and ultra but also want to get the pro 3 for times when a more portable solution is needed outside the house.
That's a good question. I asked and was told it isn't supported yet. It sounded like they were working on a firmware upgrade to be able to do that. I'll need to ask again to see if there are any updates.
@@solarguy would love to see a video on that if it is compatible, how it handles load sharing, both units on solar and discharge, high wattage draw, etc
so you're saying i need one of each ;-) ... I have a detached garage/office with grid-tied solar and separate load panel that is parallel to the load panel in the house. Would like to take advantage of TOU plans ($0.03 super saver vs $0.26 Peak) as well as an Outage Backup mode that will keep the Solar generating for me...
This is crazy. Does this mean only the Anker can power the full main panel and the EcoFlow can only power the circuits in the sub panel? Can the Anker supply the full main panel while grid is down also or does it cut over only to the Anker subpanel? I had been leaning towards EcoFlow but questioning that now.
The HPP doesn't backfeed power to the main panel when the grid is down. This is a safety requirement for AC coupled devices. So when the grid is down the HPP only outputs to the backup loads. In normal operation the HPP backfeeds power when the grid is up so the loads on the main panel consume that power. When the grid is up it also outputs power to the backup loads. An important point is that it does not allow backfeeding to the power grid, just locally to the main panel. The SHP2 does not backfeed so it can only power the loads on the panel itself but you get the smart features and circuit level control.
The HPP itself doesn't take in any solar. The direct solar input is on the side of the F3800. The HPP has the current sensor for a solar array so you can monitor your solar output (say a rooftop system) and also charge the batteries when your solar inverters (doesn't matter the brand) are producing power.
If interested, I just noticed the River 3 on amazon is on lightning sale for $169 with a free waterproof bag. I don't know if my 5% coupon will work but it can't hurt to try! amzn.to/3ZAoOUD (aff link)
Are the anker solix c300 AC is better? Price pretty much the same, slightly heavier by like 1lbs but i don't see anything that river 2 or 3 can compare. 170-180$, just considered 140w usb c outlet alone, find ones in powerbank would already be like 100$ ish. I would consider river 3 if they were to have like 1-2 140w usb c output ports.
It depends on what you consider better. I have the C300 as well and I like the 3 usb-C ports and that 2 of them are 140w rated and one is bi-directional (you can charge through it). It does weigh a little more but it has one more AC outlet an LED light and 43Wh more of storage.
@@solarguy yeah only downside is their weight, but I'll just buy it and put it in the living room for my fam, 2 140w usb c output ports alone would cost me at very least 160+ already, it's a total ripped off fr. The actual retail price of those 140w charger in China is under 25S per brick btw lol.
Thank you for making this video! I was thinking about passing down my R2 to my brother and buying the R3, but the size reduction doesn't matter to me enough to give up so much. I opened my R2 up and replaced the noisy fan with a 60x25mm Noctua that moves more air while being practically silent. Noctua fans aren't cheap, but they are well worth the cost for projects like this. I also installed a 12v 5.5mm jack that internally taps on the automotive port, which I don't use, so that it's still switched and managed by the unit. I use the port frequently, and have made a set of RV style LED light strips which are powered using the 12v 5.5mm port. I felt quite proud of myself for finally completing a project for once!!
TWO DP3's with 2000Watts Each Solar (4000watt Total) connected together would be great for a Temp Power Outage OR for running 120v ONLY. That way you could RUN a Window AC unit which uses MUCH less power than the Center AC 240 Volt. I would get a small Propane Gen in case of Storms (Clouds) or winter days. -Charging your Batteries with a Gen is way more efficient than just plugging the Gen into your house ONLY.
The River 3 feels like a downgrade compared to the River 2 unfortunately. The physical size difference doesn't really matter to most customers in my opinion. One is small and the other is really small. The battery capacity is less than the older one, it still only has ONE type C port, the warranty is shorter, the input wattage is less, it doesn't charge via USB C like the older one does... I don't understand why they even released this. It feels like an unfinished, rushed product with not enough to peak my interest. The only thing I really like about it is it'll probably drop the price on the River 2 🤷🏻♂️ great video though!
Thanks for watching! I was disappointed that they didn't add more USB-C ports when so many devices now use that for charging. It is much quieter than the River 2 - I just charged the R3 at the fastest rate from 0-100% (in 56 minutes) and I know sound is subjective, but I barely heard the fans.
@@solarguy I opened my R2 up and replaced the fan with a 60x25mm Noctua that moves more air while being practically silent. I also installed a 12v 5.5mm jack that taps into the automotive port, which I don't use, so it's still switched and managed by the unit. I felt quite proud of myself for finally completing a project for once!!
Tried to buy one for months to use with my Delta 2 Max. The company was useless, I even contacted them direct. . I couldn't get them to take my money 💰🤷♂️👎
I think the reason the CIGS did worse in some tests is likely due to the voltage thresholds of the charge controllers. I'd like to see the test repeated with two of each panel wired in series, using the same charge controllers. I think the CIGS would come out on top in every test, but I'm not certain which is why I'd like to see it.
You see, what's the better situations you get to Delta?Pro 3 throw that out in the garbage can no big, no big offense.We got the Delta pro and we got the Delta pro ultra.Take a choice, those only those are only 2 really good ones that I know.Of course , there's also the a c five Bluetty
Wild question out here. If you get two of these can you connect one of them to the Solar input of the other one and get 1000w technically with no solar panels?
Did you try to charge a 12v battery with this (obviously with the right cable xt60 to battery o-ring) ? Will it adjust output voltage accordingly, and output 12v instead of 42v ?
@@solarguy they responded to my question in Amazon. I was still skeptical about it, until I tried it today with 2 12.8v 100AH batteries in series and measured the output voltage to the battery from etaker to be 26.6 (and my amps are around 9.4 from a Bluetti PV350 panel). So it is safe to use it wirh batteries. I am yet to test wirh my car. I accidentally dropped my nut that secures battery cable while attempting to connect etaker. Have to wait for a replacement. I think their user manual guy did a bad job.
If you can plug it into a house socket (on a normal 15amp or 20 amp breaker) and run it, then either of these units should be able to run it. The DP3 has the smaller AC output at 4,000w output, on a 120v outlet is 33.3 amps continuous.
Do you happen to know what the voltage was for the perc panel while it was in the shade? I’m putting panels on my rv roof and often camp in shady spots, so I would really appreciate if you could let me know. Thanks
That is a great question! I have asked EcoFlow that and they said it's not currently supported but my sense is that it would be in a future firmware update. I am eager to test it out though.
Great video, thanks! Subbed. I was hoping you were going to test an amorphous panel, and see how it does in the shade. Do they still make those? Thanks
That's a good question. I have not researched it myself but my initial guess is that because NMC has a higher energy density they can advertise those cars with a higher range and therefore, charge a higher price.
