this was the closest routine she did all season ppl may say she shouldn’t of came back but atleast she tried and she did her best and theirs nothing bad about that
This is kinda upsetting to watch. They’re trained so hard when they’re young that their body just can’t keep going at the same pace anymore. The culture around training since then has gotten better with pacing gymnasts, and now many gymnasts are continuing elite training well into their 20s. Pauline Schäfer, Ellie Black, Elizabeth Seitz. Gymnasts in their 30s too: Jade Barbosa, Vanessa Ferrari. Gymnasts in the 40s: Oksana Chusovitina … to name a few! Haha
The truth is: they didn't need Alicia for team finals, and with those two crucial falls in 08? Nah. I truly believe Martha picked Aly, Gabby, Jordyn, McKayla, and Kyla before the trials. They were the strongest combo all 2012
Really, I love gymnastics and ice skating (figure and pairs skating). But the artistry while brilliant from the stocky short athletes is not a beautiful as everything Nastia does. I find myself exclusively watching her performances and ignoring the rest. And with ice skaters, I only look at performances of those who share Nastia's physicality. The rest don't have the elegance. The announcers are overly critical of Nastia apparently preferring the short stocky athletes.
My heart really goes out to competitors everywhere for those times that they've put in all they had to give and just come up short... I remember Nastias coach with his heart beating out of his chest and already crying saying "World Champion!! I'm telling you!" When she would go on to take all around gold. Moments... some moments will love forever... this was actually one of them to know that she would go from tears of slight pain and more wounded pride/embarrassment, to bounce back with her head held high, silencing any doubts about her place in history forever.
@@Sweetlovewhit91to be fair had she started her come back a year earlier, probably would’ve made 2011 worlds and the olympics, her bar routine would have been Inbar half + Healy + ling + Healy 1/2 + geinger Inbar + pak Double front DEEEDDDD - 3.5 + 2.5 cr + .8cv = 6.8, she would’ve been scoring in the mid 15s and a beam in the low 15s too which would’ve been way more competitive than Kyla
Yikes that Van Leeuwen. Wish they tried something else. She probably could have done this routine for a 6.8 difficulty value at the time, it's cleaner version of the standard "Russian routine" that would soon become common (this format removes the clunky extra Giant 1/2 they are always doing): Toe 1/1 (D) + Komova II (E) + Pak (D) *.4 cv* Inbar 1/1 (E) + Maloney (D) + Inbar 1/2 (D) + Jaeger (D) *.5 cv* Double Layout (D)
Makes you realize how hard these routines really are...when she wasn't properly conditioned, she majorly messed up every single bars routine that she attempted.
Talking about “her look and her being lean” shows you how deep problems were in gymnastics back then and still are. Go off of the persons gymnastics not how they look
It still amazes me that Tim Dagett is still an NBC gymnastics commentator after all these years. He's clearly one that should've stayed behind in the 90s.
@@SuAva Yeah we could really use some new voices. I heard Laurie Hernandez commentating on an NCAA meet and she was great! I also really like Sam Peszek’s commentary. They both point out positives and don’t only focus on the errors made, unlike Tim. I also really like that they don’t constantly talk about Simone Biles. Simone absolutely is the GOAT, but that doesn’t mean the airways need to be filled with her praises during everyone else’s routines.
She was just not in good enough shape at this point to complete this routine. I know everyone has said this already but if she had started training a few months earlier... 2 clean bars and beam routines would have put some serious pressure on that Kyla Ross spot.
It's easy to judge when we're just spectators. Nastia fought through injuries and surgeries....the amount of endurance, physical strength, plus mental stamina required is nearly superhuman. To have only been back in training for 6 months, she was spectacular. She just needed more time. Her legacy is firmly intact, with OR without 2012.
everyone is commenting how “she’s too late” or “she shouldn’t have tried coming back” but i don’t think there’s any shame in trying to come back. i think it’s admirable she tried again, especially at the age she was at the time. making it to the olympic trials a second time is something to be very proud of and i think it’s great she gave it a go
@@jenmareck8669 Yeah, tell that to the Karoylis who aided that disgusting perverted team doctor!😡 until then, keep your self-righteous comments to yourself!
i agree, but at least she tried. she would have lived the rest of her life wondering if she was capable of going to one more olympics, so im glad that she gave it a shot. if she had started training sooner i bet she coulda had more success, but she would have also had to have changed her entire routine to accommodate the 2012 code of points. her bar routine is way too long and exhausting and does not give her a very high difficulty
It’s so interesting to me how the commentator sees the wold turn as this “cool new mount” whereas nowadays it’s just the boring old wolf turn that everybody’s doing.
Thats why she shouldnt have started only a few months prior , she was already a more of an artistic gymnast and even in Beijing and before 2008 she wasnt really known for her endurance and power , especially with her height its hard , her whole bars routine was too much for her , she should have started from the other side of the high bar, only do two pirouettes into the geinger, and take out the tkatchev or connect it to the pak, and only do a double front , it wouldve shortened her routine and give her a chance to make it
toaster oven “routines are simpler at the college level so you don’t need as much endurance” WAIT. WHAT?! I think the reason it seems that way is because in college the team is made up of people from different skill levels. I have seen a few girls and routines that could definitely podium in the olympics. I kinda don’t understand the what and why of what you are trying to say... because Nastia is average height for a gymnast! Also, I don’t believe she got taller after the Olympics which mean the height is nothing new for her. Hitting her foot on the bar has nothing to do with her height! She hit her foot because she had not been training.
The routine composition was not smart. That Tkatchev in the middle killed her endurance and broke the flow she had earlier in the routine. She needed to start with the Pak salto (ideally a bail), use a Ray to get back to the high bar and then stay on the high bar for the rest of routine where she was best. There were way too many kip cast handstands in the second half of the routine.
@@sogiki Basically, Nastia’s routine was too long. She had too many skills that were not connected which forced her to do a lot of kip cast handstands. With Nastia’s endurance not back to her 2008 levels, she needed a shorter routine that wouldn’t leave her tired by the dismount.
I hate it when they talk about Marta as though she’s a normal human being whose opinions were ever worth consideration. She has always been a sadistic, vile, evil woman who took pleasure in destroying the lives of the children entrusted to her. Everyone knew what she was yet they allowed her to continue her reign of terror.
