Fantastic video. One thing that could have been better is adding the cab and the speaker type in big bold letters on top of the picture overlays, for those of us who watch on small phone screens.
I had the impression the Wavestate was more about ‘rhythmically evolving’ pads/presets, but I only really heard that here with the “plucked” preset … In this video, it sounds to me like they are far more similar than I thought … ? I thought they were meant to be ‘rhythmically evolving’ presets (Wavestate), versus ‘crunchy/mangled wavetables’ sounds from the Modwave? 🤔🤷🏻♂️
Just found this video- my favorite tone of any speaker combo I have ever gotten was from 2 of the G12k-85's (same as these) and 2 V30's in a 4x12. I put the V30's on the bottom and G12K85's on the top. This blend is unreal, and I recommend it to anyone who finds V30's harsh like I do. I have tried other speakers mixed in the cab (Greenbacks, Creambacks, etc.- all great speakers by the way, sound great) but this combo together is my absolute favorite tone. When I plug into my 6505+, I smile every time.
Mesas are typically more beefy in the low end, but the 5150 style tones are a lot tighter overall. Rock/Hard rock is probably "better" with Mesa while faster rock/Metal demands a 5150. Which you could get away with using vice-versa but It's really just a matter of taste, what flavor, and your goals. Both sound great.
I agree on the tightness of the 5150/6505 named amps, but still prefer Mesa's most of the time even for fast paced metal riffs. Why? Because a Tubescreamer fixes most of that + the tightness you seek usually is a combo of compressed drums (kick + snare) with the guitars chugging over it. I also see the 5150/6505 more as a one trick pony, which is high gain while most Mesa amps can literally do anything. On the other hand they're also more expensive. Especially now Gibson owns the company and prices are totally ridiculous.
@@ThevonMusic I agree. I like your logic! I'm a sucker for 5150/6505 platform though. Just a preference. I know some people don't like the cleans with Peavey...but I kind of enjoy them. Are they as good as lets say a Fender? Nah. But you can get some chimey cleans with a little dialing. I have a Rectifier as well and love both. They are just both so different.
I’m not from a metal background, but FWIW I thought the H75 did the job best, both isolated and in the mix. I thought the G12H30, Vintage 30 and ceramic V-Type sounded good in the mix, but not so much isolated. G12M-65 is a great rock/blues speaker, but farted out way too much in this metal context. G12T-75, G12K-100, and Neodymium V-Type all sounded horrible imo. Thanks for the video, very useful!
sounds pretty close to me, I guess what could be the obvious plus to the fluence would be the multiple voicings. I use EMG 81s and im not changing them anytime soon, I love them.
this rapidly became my favorite speaker. watched dozens of videos, I love how tamed the highs are and how rich everything else is. definitely the speaker for me. honestly if someone wants highs it's better to come from a brighter amp or something, otherwise if it comes from the speaker it's very hard to tame. so v30's and v-shaped speakers are not my cup of tea
That's quite a good description. If you actually also take the EMG 81 in that comparison, their characteristic differences are: EMG 60: brighter, bit less attack EMG 81: a little less bright, but a better attack EMG 57: closest to the EMG 81, but more compressed/distorted I personally like the 60 more than a 81 in neck position and vice versa for the bridge position. The EMG 57/66 pair is great too, but just different due to the higher compression.
Theres some things that i think the prologue definitely needs, if they revist it , it would be interesting to see the classic Dw pitch joystick, or Minilogue style mechanisms. and dedicated button layout ( a return to the original minilogue mono/poly/duo/etc buttons which made it instantly satisfying and lightning fast.
Late to the party, but my 2 cents. Loved the G12H, the Lynchback, and the V30 with your EVH. Sounded great. When in the Mesa cab, same but damn that bass resonated, didn't it? There is a reason they are so expensive. They are just that good. Hard to tell which of those three I thought were the best, but something about that 80's gain I just love.
Okkk got it…both Amps r sickkk as fkuck. Thanks for making my choice even harder! Haha just messin. Awesome demo!!! I tried the white EVH at guitar center the other day with a 8-string Legator….holy balls. Talk about Chunkage
So if I understand this correctly, I could just record some samples from VST's I already own and import to the Wavestate and it will do a good job with the onboard filters? Like Model D samples and such. Thanks
It will do quite well, the only thing to keep in mind is that every sample you create will have to be 'looped' correctly and also it will be 'pitched' to the other keys. Except if you use multiple samples. You can for example record a sample for every octave and stretch that sample over multiple keys (so it gets pitched). I'm not sure if you can use one sample per key, which would be quite a heavy multisample, but I got away with using one sample for each 3 semitones if I remember correctly. You can indeed use the filters, ADSR, etc... of the Wavestate.
Nice. Good vid, man. I believe every vid I've seen you do is Celestion though. You gotta check out WGS Retro 30's and Reapers. I got those in my cab and it's spectacular ! Every once in a while though, i check out speakers just for the heck of it. Check them out, i'd be severely surprised if you didn't like them!
Thanks for the advice! Yes so far it's all Celestion, but its not on purpose. I thought about trying another brand in the past but so far didn't have the intention to buy one yet. I'll keep your recommendations in mind!
got two 8 string guitars of the same make ... one emg one fluence modern. i play clean, low gain and mix at home. honestly waste of money on the "modern" to me. they aren't very balanced or clear i thought they were defective until i heard all the comparison demos. they sound like an mid passive humbucker - decently good with cleans I'll admit but emg are cleaner brighter and more percussive at once. yes emg sound more compressed but you get used to that feel while playing. thanks for reading. i wanted to love them after spending
