Great video. This takes me back to travelling on this line from Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour, back in the late 1970s. On a cab ride you only see what's in front, but with this side view, it's great. Many thanks.
Jeff, thank you for sharing and the formation of a 4 EPB is most interesting. From what are you creating the two Trailer Seconds? _(I was looking at cutting 2 EPB coaches in half although four coaches would be needed to produce two Trailers)._ Now Bachman make the 4 EPB motorcoaches (being the same as the 2 HAP motocoaches without roof-mounted conduit and with 1957 control gear) it would be so easy for them to produced the 4 EPB trailer coaches (which would also form the basis of 3H trailer coaches and 64' locomotive hauled non-corridor Seconds_. Two number 4 EPB motocoaches did have roof-mounted conduit - being ex.2 EPB motorcoaches which became spare when the 3R Tadpole units were formed. Sadly for modellers, they had ex.SR-type trailer coaches. Lest you are interested BloodandCustard covers all the Southern Electric slam-door units in detail (I have also included the 64' non-corridor stock thereon). - Colin.⚡
Hi. I used four spare 2 EPB bodies left over from the original blue ones that Bachmann had got the numbers the wrong way round, so they sent out replacement bodies correctly numbered, leaving the old ones sitting on a shelf. I had originally pre-ordered two of the blue sets instead of one, by accident. I detailed the process on RMweb, starting on 4th August 2023 (link here www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/27719-srmans-current-layout-newton-broadway/?do=findComment&comment=5243903), and continued from today (22nd June 2024). Essentially, I have made the centre car bodies by joining the non-driving ends from two bodies to form one centre coach. One of the bodies was from the existing, operating 2 EPB, the other from one of the spares. The kinematic coupling mechanism and trailing bogies came from Bachmann spares. The unit is double-powered, although I know each motor bogie is quite capable of moving a four car unit on its own. Using a HAP motor coach would be just as viable, but you would still need to remove one periscope. The HAP driving trailers may prove more problematic in getting enough plain compartments (no toilet compartment). The Blood & Custard site has proved useful to me on numerous occasions.
@@jeffreylynn135 Jeff, I know many who have found the incorrect 2 EPB bodies useful - well done! Thank you for the link which I will read in due course... When using a 2 HAP motorcoach in a 4 EPB, simply set the 2 HAP DTC aside for conversion into a 2 HAP Phase 1 Batch 1 unit with the DTC married up to a 2 EPB motorcoach. The DTC roof with roof-trunking can come from a 2H DTC - either from Bachmann spares else 2H units nos.1119-1122 which did not have roof trunking (excluding the number swap with 1108). Obviously there is some work needed on items such as the roof-end jumper boxes and (as you correctly observe) the periscopes. Hopefully you will have noticed 4 EPB unit nos.5301-5320 were equipped with express gear ratios (this additionally alleviated the requirement that (when mixed with 75mph units) at least half the train must had been formed with 90mph units. Pleased you find BloodandCustard useful - it is very time consuming and I don't know exactly how I managed before retirement!
@@ewhurstgreen I hadn't realised you were authoring Blood and Custard. It is an extremely useful resource. I was aware there are differences with the end connectors, but I'm not sure quite how far I'll go for accuracy on the 4 EPB. There are inevitable compromises to keep me sane! 😀
@@jeffreylynn135 Yes, it is my site and thank you for the compliment - I'm never sure how useful others find it. 👍 It was started to fill in the many gaps not covered elsewhere. Modelling is always a compromise and as long as you are content with the outcome, then that is all that really matters. Inevitably there are some details that can never spot-so and certain fine details can be overkill which risk any given model becoming a chore rather than joy. If Hornby had produced spare bodies for their Bulleid 'multidoor' stock I might have considered one of the two 4 EPB units with augmentation trailers - you'd need four bodies to produce one trailer..... Personally I've compromised on the roof-end jumper boxes and changed the bodies so the (batch 1) 2 HAP is left with the (incorrect) later boxes and the 4 EPB will have the (incorrect) earlier larger boxes. The alternative would have been a lot of fine work to the inner end of the DTC _(really difficult as my vision is degraded)._ 😟
Looks to be running nicely now!👍 Remember when the fifties took over from the Cromptons down to Exeter - drivers used to claim you had a 50 /50 chance of getting there.... 😀
It is running nicely so I have now upgraded it to sound, replacing the Lenz Gold decoder with an ESU LokSound 5 with a free ESU/SWD sound file. Not sure if I'll keep that sound project on it or not - it has some very good sounds and a few naff ones.
@@jeffreylynn135 Well done!👍 Sound is something I've kept away from, although a number of sound locomotives /multiple units do come to visit my DC layout.🙂
Thanks (again). That reminds me I really should weather a few roofs. You are quite right that they should be different shades for a realistic appearance. I have now retired the Hornby Mk 2A that's lurking in the rake in this vid.
Lovely looking train. Really like the mixed livery rake of coaches - just as I remember them in the early days of NSE. Your Class 50 is stunning, and a very smooth runner.
Thanks. This class 50 is one of three Hornby ones I own, and is the last one without sound. It is an early candidate for a sound upgrade, probably later this year.
Thanks. This video was posted 11 years ago (back from 2024), and I subsequently re-motored the unit using a spare Hornby 2 BIL underframe and bogies, so it can work fully compatibly with the Hornby BIL and HAL units. One of these days I might try to flush-glaze the windows, at least on the corridor side of the driving trailer.
The Titfield Thunderbolt looks great, as does your layout. I've just watched this video with my grandson, and we are going to be watching a few more, we've just subscribed. My grandson enjoys watching model railway videos, he gets ideas for his layout. He's also got his own Dylington Model Railway channel, which features his own model railway Dylington, he's not doing a bad job of filming it, might be worth a quick look. ...cheers James 🙂👍
Thank you. I'm very glad I have been able to inspire you and your grandson. As you can see, there is still a lot of work to be done on Newton Broadway, but I am on no hurry to complete it. I like to see - and hear - the trains running. I try not to make the videos too long, but it is always possible to skip parts if they get boring.🙂
@jeffreylynn135 he keeps his short, I think his longest is just under 7 minutes, but most are less than 3 minutes. He's going to build a 009 layout soon, but as you say, there's no rush 🙂👍
@jeffreylynn135 Thank you for subscribing. I hope you enjoy watching his videos, we've taken the comments of his protection due to his age, although they are on the Christmas one. If you do want to comment on any, I guess you could do on here and just mention the name of the video you're commenting on. Thank you again.....cheers James 🙂👍
They are very nice. I thought the 3-car sets were rather over-expensive, but the 4-car is a bit better value for money. The LSWR livery application is lovely, and far exceeds anything I could do myself. They are very free runners, so the M7 has no difficulty at all with them, in spite of the slight gradients on my layout - the Hornby M7 is not noted for its haulage power, and the balance is all wrong, so these coaches really seem to complement and enhance it's abilities.
@@jeffreylynn135 Pleased to learn the four-coach sets run well behind the M7 - my post-war sets are three and two coach (set 312). The LSWR livery looks superb - even just a decade ago who would have thought we would seen these modelled? Hoping EFE will produce the TL as a 'Loose' vehicle (many were reused in other sets rather than 'Loose'). Lest it be of interest, I did put up all the set formations (Southern and BR but not LSWR) on BlooandCustard including dates for reduction to three coaches.
Someone building a kit of a class 313 (or similar) used memory wire to create opening and closing sliding doors. I can't say I'll be trying that anytime soon! 😀
The sound was from legomanbiffo: you should find it on DC Kits' website. As for the lighting, I used sections of LED strips bought on eBay as a 5m roll, but I had to add extra resistors to dim them a bit.
Well, no. It means the pickups are not working properly, possibly a dirty wheel or two. I fitted the lights and wiring for them myself, so I need to check it at some point. I also want to fit some diode bridges so the LED lights will work in both directions on DC, although on DCC they are fine for that.
The hue given off by the interior lighting gives off a cold blue ambience, whereas on real S Stock trains the interior ambience is a warm yellow bit like with Tungsten lights.
Hi Paul. There are a few variations on the whistle in the YouChoos sound project. I like the sound too, it makes it sound like the driver is in a bit of a rush. The Q1 is a standard Hornby weathered example. The S15 I weathered myself.
Exceptional videography. Mine, plus third class cars, runs like a gem. Tender includes all wheel pick up for exceptionally smooth and reliable performance. Worth every nickel. Or shilling. Or whatever you blokes use...
Thanks Jeffrey. Mine runs beautifully for the most part, but I have now had to re-solder the wires to the tender twice. They are a little too stiff, and tend to lift the weight off the front axle of the tender. I have added a small piece of lead under the coal at the front of the tender to help compensate for this. One thing I will say though: it has surprised me for the power of the thing. I didn't expect it would manage the five coaches, but as you can see, it is perfectly happy with them.
Hi. The kits are still available but not necessarily in the original form - most have been remastered with resin body shells but still with white metal chassis. You can check them and other underground stock out on Radley Models' web site (no connection here).
@@jeffreylynn135 Thanks for the reply! I appreciate it. Had a look at Radley's website and I'm very tempted. It's not usually something I build as I'm mainly an aviation modeller, but I've always wanted a model of some CO/CP stock. What do you get with the "full" kit as it's not entirely clear on the website and what sort of things does the modeler need to add themselves? Not sure yet if I'd build as a static model, or motorise. Sorry for all the questions!
@@fightersweep I can only talk about the older kits, which came with pre-soldered bogies and pinpoint axles already fitted, some rudimentary underframe castings, white metal sides and ends, with the sides composed of separate sections, plus the roof. Motorised kits came with Tenshodo SPUD motor bogies, but I never liked those, so used Black Beetles instead (two motor bogies in one powered car, the rest unpowered in a five car set. There were also London Transport transfers and some numbering as well, plus screws and nuts and some glazing material. The newer kits have one-piece resin bodies, complete with sides roof and ends already cast together. Mine never had seats, but I bought seating units and some updated resin CO/CP underframe fittings from Radley to improve my models, which currently still don't have the seats fitted. Radley's website does leave a bit to be desired as far as information goes.
@@jeffreylynn135 Thank you! That's really helpful. I'll have another look at their website as I think they are the only game in town for CO/CP, but for £65 a pop, I think a bit more information on the website would be helpful for the uninitiated like me. Thanks again, and if I can do half as good a job as you with the kits, I'll be happy!
Thank you. :) I have progressed quite a bit with the scenery since this video. I also abandoned the use of the Scharfenberg couplings, and am using some Kadees for the unit ends now. They have been carefully speed matched now and run perfectly together. I did a much later video with my Christmas train, and had to keep shifting the 450s as they were sharing the same track - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5_ot1w2RFa0.html&ab_channel=JeffreyLynn if you are interested. :-)