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Wow man look at this beautiful machine. Wow a real collectible. Not as nice as that crown Vic tho. WOW it’s a classic for sure. I’ll trade you my hellcat and $50K cash for this thing? Pleeeeease
You must have just quit your shinebox job and started car wiring the same day- too much spaghetti around the rear deck lights. Who the hell mounts vehicle lighting power equipment straight to the chassis?? THAT is not how its done, I thought K-mart didn't wire police cars anymore. Go back to emergency equipment mounting school or maybe try slip and fall school.
It’s a havis widebody 12.5” console with custom made brackets using havis’ original prints for it because they no longer make it. The console with floor plate and brackets is for sale. Email us if you’re interested.
A set up like this would run around 15k in parts and labor depending on what else the customer would want on it because its name brand. The cost would be half if it was “off brand” like feniex and ram mounts. Brands like these are eager to prove themselves to be put in the “name brand” category and will offer quality products at a way lower price. This is one reason why we are a dealer for feniex. Prices for upfitting are way too expensive and safety out on the road should be an accessible option to ALL individuals who work from the roadway. Not just govt. as for what’s needed, a basic knowledge of interior parts/ electrical knowledge and all the tools you would find in a normal mechanics garage. I will say plastic trim pulling kits are a must when trying to pull stubborn plastic pieces without breaking them. 👍
@@thefoundationsblenderplace6778 the feniex hammer is the only self contained low frequency siren/speaker that can run by itself. Typical low frequency sirens are made to only listen for and then mimic the tones from an actual siren but the feniex hammer can run its own tones by itself.
@evosolutionsllc.910 this is exactly what I was looking for! I really appreciate your help! Can it be mounted on a non emergency vehicle? Specifically a muscle car?
@@thefoundationsblenderplace6778 a console? Not really. There would be a lot of custom metal fab that would need to be done in terms of welding and using a metal brake to bend some custom brackets. FHP has a bunch of mustangs and they don’t even bother putting consoles in. They just use handled controllers or remote faceplate controllers like this 21-slide controller that has a short backing to it and mount a bail bracket to the headliner or the console area. But mostly handheld siren controllers are the way to go if mounting in a smaller vehicle. Light brackets have ti be custom fab as well. The only vehicles that have “easy” bolt on parts made for them are police package vehicles and their retail counter parts.
Unlike feniex the amplifier is external. It’s not inside the howler speaker. It’s not even inside the cencom. It has a separate external amplifier that has to get tied to the cencom light siren controller. 👍
Siren tones aren’t supposed to sound pretty. They are supposed to gain attention. Much like your imitation power call sirens, listening to a unique siren tone coming down the road when you’d typically expect the generic wail, yelp and priority gains better attention. This is why odd sounds like the power call is still a favorite and effective among fire departments. 👍
@@flightstatic4662 they aren’t as effective being as there is just one tone. Just like light patterns, some are effective for long range and others are more effective at short range.
I agree. This is why the rotary dial is still popular. We used the 21 and slide for our demo vehicle because it could fit all the features on it. 😂 running the horn ring or having a rotary is still the best way to go 👍
We just opened a 501-3C critical communications intuitive for the Colorado Rocky Mountains SAR, and we bought two F150’s and needed a clean two way radio center console solution, and ran into Havis. Enough to house 3 radios. One for our repeaters and specific frequencies, and the other two radios being Boulder County Sheriff’s radio, and Boulder County EMS, with Heli Frequencies, all trunked of course. With an in vehicle repeater which isn’t seen but housed inside the console. BUT! My god! $400 for a center console for a non profit was completely insane so we copied Havis using sourced materials for about $150. It’s just metal with hard plastic covers. We used metal covers. I think Havis, although high quality, and no doubt the best, is raking the taxpayers over the coals. Especially when you consider l the great number of vehicles these have to go into. When craftsman look at these things we have to ask, where’s the money? There’s truly nothing to these things. These are mostly found in municipal and law enforcement vehicles here. So went as far as attending a county auction to get the entire vehicle and ended up buying from private. I was shocked to learn about these. Johnson makes some as well but again, the market appears to be cornered. We’re actually thinking of entering the market with ours to combat the no doubt over inflated price.
Yea they are expensive. If you become a dealer you get special pricing though. On top of that You have to also consider as well, that govt goes to the lowest bidder. So most upfitters take hits sometimes just so they can say THEY were the ones that upfitted such and suchs cars. But yes. You might as well perfect the craft if you have the metal working tools and go for it. 1st in products (a division of 1075 emergency vehicles in northern nj) is doing just that with abs type plastics and is apparently doing it with much success. We use havis because their national HQ is 35 minutes away from us. But if the budget is tight we will do what other upfitters in south Jersey do and go to 1075. I say go for it. Our company is trying to do the same thing. Drive the cost of everything back down. Safety shouldn’t be outside everyone’s financial reach. Hell new Motorola uhf radios are anywhere from 5-10 thousand dollars. It’s nuts.
This popped up in my feed since I just watched a Half As Interesting that was claiming European sirens were “better” than US sirens. Bro, they are so wrong. One of their claims was that their Euro sirens were lower in tone and travel farther, which the howl you were showing would seem to totally solve that. The European sirens just sound like a cringy out of tune clown horn.
The euros need some updating. The uk has finally gone with whelen and it’s working to much success. We’ll be making a video soon explaining why there are so many different siren tones and per California training standards as to what tone works best at what distance and why. ✌️
Yep! But You have to use quality zip ties though So it never fails. For some grilles on these newer cars, upfitters have to use hot glue or a similar substance to hold them in place. I’ve seen many methods. If you want a true grille light with bracket placement on this model explorer you have to get something smaller like the T3/Q3 light head with L brackets and then use a 90 degree drill bit extension to screw the bracket backwards in place and then the light head so it’s recessed from the bumper. The downside is that it’s smaller so not as bright down range as the qsm.
Now Even tinted the headlights or taillights look kool. I would not do that. I’d rather keep them bright or with LED/HID for super bright lights. Projector or reflector housing. A black accent housing for headlights or tail lights, without affecting the lens to tint is totally fine. And I prefer that.
Yea head and tails are a completely different story. Even then. Let’s say you had really bright heads and tails. A smoke would be fine. But everyone wants it as black as their paint AND have it bright and that’s not possible lol same with emergency lights.
@@evosolutionsllc.910 I mean when they upgrade to led or hid, and it’s brighter than stock, and then tinted them. What was the point putting led bulbs then anyway?🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@evosolutionsllc.910 to me. I’m sleep the front door windows and of course front windshield stock and clear. Rear door windows and rear trunk window limousine tint. Well for trunk door window, maybe not too dark because I’d rather still have a good visible.
@@toyotabronythey upgraded the head and tails exclusively so they can be tinted and still be seen. They are trying to balance brightness with looks. It’s hard to do properly and for safety you always have to sacrifice one for the other. I don’t believe in headlight taillight tint. I don’t like putting emergency lights behind tint but that’s the way it is for undercover units and they need to respond accordingly given the fact the lighting power is now diminished.
The slower pattern single flash with longer on time is the way to go if going through tint. Simple back and forth. Half and half. All this quad, triple, hyper flashing is fun to look at, but ineffective. When the lights have a longer dwell on time it gives the public time to register what the ev is and where. Solid colors. All blue then all red, etc.
It's good to see some people understand less is more. I see so many upditters program in just insane amounts of flashtastic nonsense in our cruisers...and then get angry when I go in after delivery and change it. It blows my mind when they tell us, the end users, what does and does not work...😂
Because they never had actual first responder experience running calls. Nor do they care to go out with these departments they serve and examine real life responses like we do. Departments waste sooooo much money trying to improve visibility with more lights when you can gain the same level of visibility if not more with the right pattern/light head placement. It may not look cool but where not here to be whack jobs. We are here to keep everyone safe. 👍
No kid, see, you made a statement that trans kids are getting "favored" over the majority so we're still waiting for you to answer how. You just bounced like a punk. So let's have it kid. You have two choices, answer or block me and accept you got your a$& handed to you. Because you and your little business here just became a hobby.
We couldn’t. We had 10 gauge which could go through the driver side grommet no problem but we also had a wire harness for the front lights and speakers. So we always try grommets first. If that doesn’t work we try our own hole in the fire wall. If that doesn’t work than our last resort is making a pass though behind the kick panel at the floor where there’s enough room. (Most pickups used to have their rear harness run into the cab like that)
@@603firefighter-xe4tx no problem! check out wicked warnings explanation on how to get through the grommet on the newer ford explorers. He does a great job showing how the craft gets done. 👍
That's genius how the rear windshield reflect 90 degrees on the glass when the trunk is up and are still quite visible to oncoming drivers. Never seen that before
This is called the Whelen Cencom Carbide system. They have a newer cheaper one called the Whelen Core system that produces the same tones and has added light control features and vehicle control features. 💪
@@evosolutionsllc.910 ok cause I checked earlier and the gap between the bumper and the painted section under the grill had like something in the back of the gap like to stop air or water from going through mins a raptor
@@MrMister1227it’s probably different on the raptor. You can cut if you need too. I believe go rhino made that suggestion in the instructions with the bar but on our XL we just had to shimmy it in place
@@evosolutionsllc.910 ah crap hopefully I don't have to grind anything, wonder if I can get away with just the bottom bolts ? I ordered it already hopefully I don't have to send it back lol
@@MrMister1227 hit us up via email. I’ll take some photos later of the space in the bumper so you can see what material is behind there. The worst would be just taking the bumper off to make access to the little notches you have to make back there to let the bracket through. That’s IF you have to. Email: evosolutionsllc@protonmail.com
I like that you mention flash patterns. Nothing is worse than a single lighthead that wig wags the same color....from 20 ft away and greater it almost appears solid burning or just lightly flickering.
Thank you! I agree 100% flash patterns make the difference! A lot of people in this industry don’t pay attention to how things look down range vs up close in the shop. I hate when I see a faint purple in the distance or just one solid color like you said because the pattern isn’t set for long range. Brightness is only part of the equation. There are patterns that are good for up close and others good for distance. Every pattern has an advantage. 💪
It comes with the vehicle specific bracket system for the 20-24 FPIU when you order the hammer. The only problem is that you have to use your own nuts and bolts to secure this piece on a retail model vs the interceptor. The interceptor has a cross brace that goes across the engine bay towards the back half of the bracket and you just utilize the existing bolt. 👍
@@cwcastle shoot us an email at evosolutionsllc@protonmail.com We accept PayPal and have special promotions going on for all Feniex products. Or call up any online Feniex distributor and they can help you. 💪
Agitated you enough to comment which means I got your attention which means the tones did its job. Lights and sirens are about safety and getting people's attention. Not "looking cool" I can be a whacker all day but safety for first responders is more important. Anything weird and out of the ordinary grabs people's attention better. 👍
Yes sir. For installs like this we always leave enough extra harness to move the electronics board out of the way so the spare is still accessible even with the lights still running for safety. 👍
Tails and reverse use conventional wiring on the explorer. The only thing you can flash with the front is the fogs and low beams. The high beams are controlled via data wire. But the lows are still conventionally wired so you can tap into them. We installed a cutoff wire for night time operation.
We will be uploading an indepth video soon that explains that we changed the bulbs out for led. We do this to all vehicles that use a tail light flasher but have this strange half led and half halogen set up to their tail lights. 👍
They are both pretty much equally as loud. The difference is where you mount it. Some vehicle specific brackets place the rumbler or howler behind the front bumper where there is no room for the sound to escape. They do this with siren speakers as well which is why some departments mount their speakers to the push bar.
There are lots of distributors in Cali and around the country that sells their stuff. Sirennet.com in Oregon would be your closest bet. I would go with their newest system when core. But without a siren permit the only tones you can legally run are the air horn tones which whelen also sells. You can pair that to a programmable light controller like a feniex 4200 DL and get sort of the same set up. If you want the complete functionality to be able to change patterns and colors on the fly then you'd might as well just get a whelen core system. CHP has been running core now with great success. 👍
@@Wlrdzz our business opinion would be no to cover our behind legally. But you can do what you want. I'm not sure what the light laws in CA are governing emergency lights in the vehicle yet alone on the vehicle if you put lights on a pickup rather than a police style vehicle and they are amber cops shouldn't bother you and the air horn is fine to because it's a horn and not a siren tone.
Depends where you are going to mount it. Your best bet is to order it through a 3rd party supplier like strobesnmore.com and have them give you just blank filler plates to box it off. You still need a bracket to bolt it down. If it's going in something like a crown Victoria or older dodge charger for example you will at least need to buy an old console off eBay and remove the vehicle specific brackets from it. That or bend and form your own. We managed to get havis to give us the original prints for the vehicle this went into and we made them up ourselves using the prints. 👍
The Howler is an excellent addition. ALL Police, fire, EMS, etc should have them IMO. The low frequency pierces so much better than the high frequency. The first time I heard on years ago was in Ohio traveling on I70 - I heard the low frequency of the Howler LONG before I saw the responding unit or heard the high frequency siren, and he was a good way off.
The fact that it's two opposite sides of the frequency spectrum is what I find the most interesting about the two devices paired together. Weird sounds and lights may not look. Or sound "cool" but it's the weird stuff that gets the attention. Code 3 makes some weird siren tones but that stuff really catches peoples attention. Which is why we went with some alt-tones and the rip off unitrol tones. 👍
