Yours is one of the most thoughtful and informative reviews, well done. I’m also a mtber/cyclist so your comments on ergonomics struck a chord- I actually prefer clip-ons, don’t like having to lean into the wind with elbows bent on a high bar. I’m trying to decide on this or a Thruxton. Triumph is quite a bit dearer and lacks all the nice to have electronics, but I love the look of the bike, and it’s probably a a little more accomodating for a pillion (with dual seat).
Thank you! I appreciate it. I agree, at speed, the clip ons do feel better. I actually had the S2 concept clip ons on the XSR, but ultimately, for commuting, they were quite uncomfortable. I've been meaning to make a pillion video. My gf finds the pillion seat quite decent on the XSR.
I would probably buy this bike if only it had a comfortable seat. I'm never going to buy a Corbin seat again since I really didn't like it and they don't accept returns.
I get you. I'm ok with it for my kind of riding, but if you're an all day riding kinda guy, this would not work. Ergonomics is a difficult subject since everyone's body is very different. It's impossible to accommodate everyone.
Oh yeah I was referring to the Speed Twin, the more classic one. The Speed Triple is a modern bike, it's a great bike too but pretty expensive. I guess you can also compare it to the XSR.
The street triple is an excellent bike, but a lot more modern looking. The headlights really turn me off though, too wasp-like. You can't go wrong either way. I believe it also has a shorter wheelbase, so it's twitchier.
@2WheelsGood.01 my hang up for the xsr900 is the big broad frame, it makes the bike look like it has a beer gut to me. On the other hand the Street Tripple has those bug eyed headlight. I can change the headlight though, I don't know I can fix the fat frame on the xsr900. It's a hair-thin decision for me lol
I was in the same predicament. Test drove both and they are both amazing machines but I’m the proud owner of a street triple 765rs and could not be happier
Oh there must've been a misunderstanding, I don't own an FZR. Lucky you! I wish we got the XSR 900 GP here in the US. Such a beautiful and unique bike.
Loving the new XSR900GP. I too thinks it looks like a 90's Ducati 900SS CR, specifically like the 96 I owned. My commuter/weekend bike is a 2023 MT-10 that started life black, but has since been wrapped 3M matte pine green metallic with gloss red ancients, which makes it looks like an entirely different, more refined machine. I would consider selling my MT-10 if the XSR-GP comes to the US just on appearance alone.
Hey thanks for the comment! I agree! Totally has a Ducati look. The MT-10 is a great bike and it sounds so good! Good idea on the green wrap, I actually considered a British Racing Green wrap, but I'm unsure on it. The stock blue is beautiful after all.
I don't like the look of the seat. and after test riding the bike I didn't like the comfort of the seat. and I don't get the strip of plastic side fairing going between the front of the seat and the gas tank. I also think the exhaust couldn't be uglier. why they don't put the hole on the side with a side cover that looks like an actual exhaust like on the Triumph Street triple 765 RS. and I am someone who doesn't like loud after market exhausts. the best thing about the XSR is the engine.
Hey thanks for commenting! It's all fair game. Taste is taste, and all of our bodies are different , so ergonomics have a ton of variables. The seat is an easy replacement! But I like the stock one. The side cover, It's just a way for designers to "merge" the tank design with the side. Giving it continuity rather than breaking up the lines. Exhaust, yeah, it's ugly, but most people replace that as their first project! I suspect these will get uglier as emissions get tighter every few years. I kept mine in stock because I also hate loud exhausts.
great video mate! I prefer the full fairing and the old style pipe on the XSR GP. It completes the look for me. The upgrades for the GP are the same as the MT-09 SP version. Larger Dash, Upgraded Suspension, New Controls. I'm hoping they do an XSR 900 SP with those upgrades.
Hey thanks! And agree, if we don't get the GP, maybe just an XSR900sp would be great. As fair as the fairings, totally fair! Just a preference. I'd be happy with either!
Any thoughts on this format? Is the video too long? Too boring? I know design detail conversations aren't everyone's cup of tea and people just want to watch reckless riding lol.
need more content talking about motorcycle design, it's usually skimped over by everyone as it's 'subjective'. Maybe do a section on how you would've designed the bike your way? Can take inspiration from ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NQtWd-KtVeo.html
Thanks for the feedback! I was thinking about designing (sketch and 3D model) my own version of the rear cowl for this video. I'll do it for the next one! @@user-tu3ow4df9k
23:40 - Your English is really good. You're making a technical description of a machine in your second language. I can barely ask for the bathroom in Spanish. I can't even introduce myself in Japanese, Korean, Russian, French... So yeah, you're doing good for this hemisphere.
19:40 - that would be dope AF if it had that old school green text like the og CRT monitors from the late 1980's. But, software designers don't know enough to design a dedicated display. They don't know how many pixels they actually need to convey information. They need $9,000 computers to wireframe a menu system, and still add too many steps. Partially because they suck at written communication and creating categories / headers to organize menus. Tesla is famous for disorganized, rambling menus that are longer than the dead sea scrolls and almost as hard to read.
Yeah I really cannot stand all that scrolling and menu navigation. You can only make it so intuitive with all the information bloat. I guess this is appealing to the majority of people? I'm more of a purist.
This is a really good review, I need something very agile and easy to maneuver through heavy traffic. I love how this bike looks, but this video made me realize it’s not for me.
Hey thanks! I appreciate it. Yup, for tight squeezes and maneuvering I'd go elsewhere. Maybe a Supermoto type bike or a more standard bike. Can't go wrong with an SV650, the Mazda Miata of bikes. MT07 might be good for that as well, I just don't really like the look.
Heavy urban traffic is somewhat of a mixed bag in the XSR900, but all modern bikes are somewhat bad urban bikes simply because the catalytic converter requires tremendous heat to work correctly. Thus, the "breadbox" cooks the bottom of the engine, and in slow stop and go traffic my XSR900 is cooking at 220 F and above. You can cut down on the heat by setting the bike to mode 4 which reduces the power by, I think, nearly half (not sure), but all these "breadbox" bikes really cook their engines at lower speeds. However, as a naked bike it's not personally uncomfortable compared to faired bikes that dump hot air is a specific part of your body. Lane threading, which I occasionally do despite it being illegal in my state (I lived in California and Bangkok), is easy with this bike as it has a properly low first gear and its mirrors can be instantly turned inward. The minuscule steering head lock does bother me a lot but in traffic that's not a problem. Instead, it's a big problem when you're trying to move the bike across a sidewalk, parking garage, alley, door frame to alley, etc...and these are all conditions you will encounter a lot in urban areas. If you're not storing the bike physically in these locations or don't need to access such locations, then the XSR900 is pretty good in urban traffic.
Back in the mid 90s this was what would be called a Techtro. Japanese manufacturers made bikes that gave a modern interpretation of a retro with better performance and running gear.
I read the GP isn't coming stateside, but I hope it does, I would totally get one. R9 sounds very plausible, but I'm not really into modern super sport bikes. If I was near a track, it would be different!
My only issue with the design is how exposed and big the frame is. If they could’ve added a small fairing (not the gp fairing, something smaller) or maybe have the tank cover up a bit more of it. It would’ve been 10/10 but that’s just me nitpicking
Lane splitting is a lot harder today than it was 20 years ago, simply because cars are so much wider. Bicyclists did an article about this problem: average width of a car has gone from 82 inches wide to 96 inches, thus leaving the unfortunate lane splitter with less than 4 inches on either side of his handlebars. A lot of those studies on motorcyclists lane splitting are from before cars became mega-sized.
This is 100% true. The way cars have bloated in the U.S the last 15 years is absurd. Here in Orange County it is so noticeable. Large parking lots are like war zones with all these distracted drivers in tanks. Good video topic to discuss!
Bought a new 2024 last month. Everything you said is spot on. The clunky shift between 1-2 is only at low rpms it seems. If I’m putzing around on surface streets, I clutch too
Congrats on the new bike! Did you get the red/white? David at Vcyclenut can get it shifting smoother with his ECU flash, but I haven't done it myself. I might wait until I get an exhaust.
@@2WheelsGood.01 yup red/white. Did a tail tidy and front/ rear turn indicators, and frame sliders. Gonna just ride it this summer, then send to vcycle and get exhaust when it gets butt-ass cold
My obtainable dream bike. The video quality is amazing btw! To me at least, a good dash is like wearing a nice watch. Yeah, my phone does the job better but it's nice to look down and see something quality. My biggest gripe is the shape. The circular gauge of the first gen fits the bike so well and this just kinda sits there like the iPad looking screen on newer cars. The small screen on the huge dash is icing on the cake for making it look terrible IMO. But if they only thing you can complain about is the dash, then it must be a hell of a good bike
Hey! Thanks for the kind words, it was my obtainable dream bike too. I'll try to improve the video as I go with more angles etc. Phones have great quality now a days! I totally agree on the screen! The round one fits the bike a lot better.
