I blew up my suspension on this car being a dickhead I’m only at 54k on the 2012 ex-l v6 and the car is just crabbing right now 2 mechanics said nothings wrong but this thing is about to snap at any moment 😭
You said you wouldn''t recommend at the end and that there are better options. Can you suggest some better options in this class/price range with Honda's reliabiility please?
I have a 2010 with the 3.5 but as a sedan. Bought it at 92k miles now she’s at 119k. Had no problems, just had to change the battery. You should find a sedan version loaded with the tech features if possible. These things handle great and mine has been great to me!
The 3.5 are arguably more reliable and the 4 speed transmission’s long gears allowed for excellent mpg compared to similar options from different manufacturers.
This makes me want to buy a roller and put my engine in it, my speed is falling apart from inside, the last owner aggressively ripped all the panels off and everything creeks
Im so glad I have the coupe and not the 4-door, the coupe version is getting rare and going up a bit in value. What a disgrace that honda killed all their two door cars.
1:47 that's literally what I said to the salesman lol. I just got a clean 2010 coupe 3.5 with 73k miles on it last friday, hoping the cvt lasts. I also don't rev it past 3k and it still goes faster then my 99 camry.
hell yea man. I've heard nothing but bad things about the early cvts, but i mean this car has lasted over 260k miles lol. Theyre pretty fast too, 270 hp is no slouch for sure
This car/engine was essentially the test platform for what became the 2.0 ecoboost and 2.3 ecoboost. This engine is loaded with problems that were all revised in the ST and RS/Mustangs. If you buy one of these in 2024 and it's ever had any modifications or has over 75k miles, you can reasonably expect to need to rebuild the engine soon. If you're looking around for that cheap hot hatch that's fairly dependable and won't require you to dump a ton of money into, this isn't it. The Focus ST is easily twice as reliable. But if you do have money to waste on this car, it's untamed, not electronically suppressed tendencies are a much more fun experience. Just be ready to spend a lot of money and time working on it.
No sure how reliable the ecoboosts are. I know the 1.6 ecoboosts are not reliable because they need good maintenance and are not tolerant to bad maintenance. Same with the 2.3 in the mazda. It suffers from some oil starvation problems and the vvt commonly goes bad. As well as turbo seals. But if you well maintain your car it will be reliable. From my knowledge the engine in this car is far from extremely unreliable, but is also far from extremely reliable.
@@FrankShaft I was referring to the super widely used 2.0 ecoboost in the ST. That engine is in a massive number of vehicles worldwide and has a very low failure rate. It's a closed deck design and totally solid. It suffered from none of those issues you are talking about there. Beating all the factory OE short comings is what you have to do yourself if you want an MZR 2.3 to survive. Manage PCV well, address the imbalance in the intake manifold if you're running more boost, change oil every 3k miles (not 5), change plugs often, upgrade your turbo drain and supply lines, and pay attention to the little things that can cause knock and just don't run it hard if that's going on. That's what can help this engine live, but at the end of the day neither it or the Ecoboost 2.0 is gonna have that reliability factor like a Honda or Toyota engine. Ford saw all those problems I just mentioned on the MZR and did address them with the Ecoboost 2.0.
@@christopherpauley8174 yea don't this as a first car for your kid for sure. I change the oil every 3000, but ill keep in mind your comment. Ill look into the turbo lines and definitely get a catch can for the pcv
Uncle had three of these as company cars. I liked them all. The 6 speed in the later, 2012-2013 models were better than the 4 speed in the 2006-2011 models.
Cousins had 1994-1997, so 5th gen, Friends mom had a 2000, and grandparents had a 1998, both of the 6th gen. I've known people with the 2003-2007, 7th gen. And I know plenty with the 8th gen, like you show here. That is an EX-L, EX had cloth. There was LX, LX-P, which was an LX with I believe a power drivers seat an alloy wheels. EX had the cloth and sunroof, EX-L had leather. There was an SE in I think 2012, EX-L no sunroof. Then for the coupe you had LX-S with the EX motor, EX, EX-L and for both sedan and coupe, V6. I think I'd rather have a 2006-2012 Ford Fusion over this.
Purely looks based I'd rather have the accord in this video, but I don't know anything about the fusion and its features lol. Would love to research and review one though
I just watched the speed3 video and first off damn I want it I’m looking at a few of them but they are few and far between over here in nc but your video was great man keep it up
@@grant1497 I dont know much about the 1st gens, but I know they changed the timing chain a little. The 1st gens timing chain i think the vvt is more unreliable. Theyre sweet tho Id love to drive one one day
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@FrankShaft Fantastic! Thank you for answering thoroughly, my friend. I'm really like this format of videos (like yours and The Topher) and I've always had a thing for cars so I think I will start my own channel very soon.
A back up camera or reverse sensor sound signal should be on these. I have an EX-L V6 and it doesn't have either of those, while cars like a Prius had that as early as 2006-2008. Ridiculous.
Thats surprising that old of a prius has parking sensor. But I agree for the time period it is lacking to say the least I mean my mazdaspeed3 from 2011 was similar in price, but I have auto wipers, navigation, and bluetooth. The accords are really well known for their reliability though
Bluetooth is equipped in all the EX-L 8th gens. They just don’t stream music from your device. It only connects for phone calls. I own a 2011 Ex-l 6-6 coupe so….
I think this is true for the 2010-2012 models (correct me if I'm wrong). I have a 2009 EX-L i4 Coupe with no Bluetooth option for context. (In North America context)
4:40 No, main competitors are: Accord Coupe, Scion TC. The sedan goes against mid-size FWD family sedans, like: Camry, Accord, Sonata, Malibu, Fusion, etc…
I have the LX 2012 it is my first ever car bought it at 46,000 miles I know I’ll have this bad boy for a while I drive 70 miles a day so it gets from A to B no problem little over a year I put 15k miles. I Installed a dash cam added some subs just to make the best of what I got . Im very happy with it it’ll be good for another 10+ years
Picked up a 2010 MS3 couple days ago, used, think it needs new spark plugs, maybe new ignition coil packs (stutters when using the turbo, but runs good when driving normally. no knocks, no smells, nothing). Overall, so far I'm loving it.
@@bottom_lizard192 Needed new spark plugs, as all 4 of them had heavy carbon deposits. two of them had the outer housing split wide open, the remaining other two had visible cracking on the housing. And the GDI needed to be cleaned/serviced. What a night and day difference afterwards.
The price of used Hondas is 'steeper' than most BECAUSE of the reliability you mentioned - the extra price you spend on a Honda will just be spent on repair bills on any other brand within a years' time is the way I've always looked at it 🤷
I just bought a 2009, 40th anniversary model here in Australia. It has some bonus specs over the base model such as Bluetooth, rear parking sensors and fog lights. I do long commutes in it and it is perfect for that.👍