I have both 97k and a 77. The 77 is the better of the two, especially if you can get one with a 25mm piston. The "moderator type thing", does nothing, completely pointless.
Fitted your TBT kit to my 97 today, tranformed it! I knew it would as I've got one of your TBT 's on my 41 year old 77, tranformed that! I bought the 97 second hand but I know it's never been apart before because I found exactly what you said, horrible manufacturer's grease 🙄
Hi Nick, nice video as always! My 97 with your TBT kit has become a laser...at 25 yards it's 5 shots one hole, I'm not having fun anymore in fact I pushed the target to 50 yards😅
Hi Nick. That 97k long i picked up the other month is running in nicely, and you won't believe it, but i picked up an original mk1 a couple of weeks later after searching for years. That's life init. Lol So, that's a 77k, a 97k, and 2x long 97k.The troublee is i seem to have a spare kit, so i might have to "find" a 77 as well. Shocked you sell more tx kits mucka.
Hi Nick, still loving my 77, particularly now I’ve put a walnut CS thumb hole stock on it. I agree they are heavy, only took mine out on a walk around hunt once and it was a long day lugging it about, a sling would be the answer however. I shan’t go into the details of the day my TbT was fitted 😂 but will say… I’m very pleased with it.
I have had the Maxi Short Stroke kits in my 97KT and TX200 Mk111 for over a year. They run around 11.2 ft/lb and 11.4 ft/lb respectively. When fitted with my Element Helix, they are both capable of hitting Golf balls at 65 yards. At present it sits on the 97. In very little wind I repeatedly hit a 15mm spinner at 65 yards. I originally installed the TBT kit into the 97, to try and eliminate hold sensitivity, and generally improve the feeling of the recoil. Out of the box I was directly comparing it to the TX. For me the 97 just felt a bit too workman like, twangy, not quite agricultural, a bit "That will do kind of feeling." The 97 now makes a very nice thunk, is super consistent and a delight to shoot with 8.44 grain FTT pellets. It was so nice to shoot that I installed a Maxi kit into the TX. This now prefers JSB Exact Heavies 10.34 grain. At present I am playing with a Sytong HT60 on the TX. Different. The 97 has the Helix on, paired with a Chinese Mini8 range finder.
Don't know if there is a really cheap spring gun that actually groups well and has a reasonable build quality but it would be interesting to see a low cost build to see what magic you can perform on a budget. I appreciate the fine build quality of the gun you mentioned but for the total cost I would buy a pcp and have good accuracy and multiple shots for the same money out of the box 👍
Enjoyed your site a lot. I've got a HW97 & am interested in your suggestions to strip it down, remove the original grease & oil etc & replace it. Could you put up on your site, your recommendations for the grease & oil replacements please. Thanking you again for a very informative site.
I love the Airmax 2-7X32. Have mounted this scope on several of my HW's. The perfect scope for the HW30 👍 In my opinion has the Vintage series a to thick crosshair for precision target shooting and do not have the half dots. On my HW97 and 77 i have the Airmax 30SF 4-16X44 compact to get good acces to the loading port. My choice for hunting is the HW35 because the barrel latch makes the cocking cycle very quiet The TX200 is a no go for me because of the same reason. Great vid. Cheers!
I got a brand new HW99s and gave it straight to my gunsmith, he shortened the barrel and threaded a silencer then cleaned and tuned. It is hands down my favourite springer, I combined it with a red dot for roaming around the farm. It's so smooth and really quiet for a springer and fires with a pneumatic thump type noise rather than a bangy twang and it is really lightweight. I also own a AA TX200 and just sold my .177 HW97k as I can't see me ever using in instead of the 99s and TX.
Awesome rifles. I highly recommend them. Yes the weight can be an issue for some but the performance is great. I own a ProSport as well which is also great and less front end heavy but accuracy wise there's no significant difference. However the ProSport cost me almost £600 more and can be more fiddly to load especially in .177. Great video. 👍👍
Hi Nick, another TBT excellent video. The HW 77 and 97 you helped me with are doing well. I think what I like the most about them is once you get the TBT Maxi-Pro kit installed they are easier to shoot well. As the way the rifles come to the USA they plenty powerful and do put out close to 15 ft lbs. What I found is at that power level the hand shock was difficult to allow a good follow through. When I installed the Maxi-Pro kits they settled down and the shot cycle was much less harsh. Now the gentle thud of the shot allows a good follow through. Might not seem like much but with all the action of the spring and piston going on before the pellet leaves the barrel the less shock the shooter has to deal with the easier it is to shoot the rifle accurately. Please keep posting this type of video. The in-depth explanations are very valuable. Hal
Thanks@@halmason9252 . We chat regularly by email, and as you know I am always looking for new ways to learn about a guns shooting characteristics. In my opinion the most accurate gun you own is the one you use the most., the gun you use the most will be the one you enjoy shooting the most. That is how TbT was born😁
I love my HW77K best springer out there and have a 3-9 Hawke scope with Pistol grip stock and I installed one of your Maxi kits. Shoots .22 at just over 11ft/lbs at 25 yards 10 shots make a hole smaller than a 5p
On your previous video i was going to suggest an 80 or a 77. Guns for life. I bought my 80 in 89 and would never part with it. Shoots as brand new, never been dismantled.
Hi, I own a new model .22 and love it, paired with a Hawke Vantage 2-7x32 AO IR. It is the perfect combination for what I need. Too many people over scope this rifle and spoil the look / balance. Go for a compact scope. Sorry not sure I like the stock in this video. Definitely buy one.
Bought a "BSA" xl se grt "new"... Took alittle fettle but now runs as good as it ever will.. going weirauch/AirArms from now on put it that way.. BSA xl se vs literally any HW, I'll take the HW, HW99s is on the list next
Great Vid ! Please do more in the same vein. Would be interesting if you compared and contrasted the range more. Definitely made me want to try a 99/50 and i have a 97 already.
You're a top man Nick. I've spoke to you a few times over the phone regarding TBT kits and you're happy to chat for as long as needed with some great advice
