In my opinion an appeal on R3 isn't needed. 3rd baseman tagged 3rd base which causes R3 to be out because he didn't tag up. No appeal is needed and R3 doesn't score. Inning is over and no appeal is needed for R2 either.
So if the infield lets the ball drop can the base runners advance without tagging up? No need to tag up if it’s not caught or do they because it is an out due to the IFF? If caught the runners can advance if they tag up?
Q1. Yes, because it is uncaught. Q2. No need to tag. IFF makes the batter-runner out so the runners won’t be forced to advance. They still have to tag if the ball is caught. Q3. Yes they can advance at their own risk.
I love the idea of these videos. But this is the 2nd time I have strongly disagreed. How can you post a training video and suggest “I don’t like the way the rule is written, so let me teach you how to misuse the language of the rule to CYA while you ignore the rule.” ??!
I don't understand why the NFHS obstruction award is different between softball and baseball. It's never made sense to me. I'd think that softball should be more likely to have an automatic "1 base" award because the the distance between bases is 30 feet shorter, making the act of obstruction more detrimental to the softball runner.
Good video!But Caseplay #6 is so confused me.Maybe #8 can be considered the umpire's judgment, but #6 is too demanding on the runner.NO calling IFF,NO calling intentional drop,but IFF and out.
This is a great addition to Umpire Classroom, I have been away a few months and the changes are great. I do have one question. Is there a way to watch this without the highlighting text on the right? I couldn't figure out how to get rid of it. I am assuming these podcasts are designed to be audio only. Thanks for great work.
Why would it be a home run? Isn't that rule where a ball must travel over the fence "in flight"? In this case, it's carried several yards. So, not a catch due to not all of the pieces of the "catch" equation met. But why not a ground rule double?
There is an exception to the definition of inflight that specifically states a fielder touching the ball is really the only time it does not lose the inflight status.
Catcher and ump here. The reason it looks like a shitty slide is because he was blocking the plate. Not sure the exact rules with this league but its usually slide or avoid. Is this enough to give the call to the runner no he was out by a step but this did create a dangerous play at the plate and depending on the rules runner is safe and catcher is warned or ejected
In the pregame meeting with the coaches and the umpires what can the coach declare in the field of play? In the first example you had the line between foul and dead ball. One of the answers is where there coach declared the line dead ball territory. In any instance without answer B, the line is still foul territory. Can you clear this up?
Instead of a 2 base award, isn’t it a 1+1- the base they are going to plus one more?
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Umpires judgement.....lol....if there is this many cases to try to explain an illegal pitch or balk, it is far to descritianary. Outs are easy, strikes are easy, balls are easy, homeruns....easy....but this stuff is stupid and I have seen so many cases of WTF?? Looked normal, in a close situation...boom...change brought about by the ump....not the players....no intent to deceive, no way to argue the point....umpire discretion...again, lol
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If a pitcher is not set...why and how can he balk??? Seems it opens it up to the umpire to just balk...balk...balk.....every time a pitcher even has an itch....if he is not set, how can it even be an illegal pitch? He is not set, it is not a pitching move.
No that is not a double play. The second baseman intentionally dropped the line drive. According to the rules, it is an immediate dead ball. The batter is out, and the runner returns to 1st base.
Baseball is so stupid. Multiple contradicting rules saying players need to move with other saying they cant move. And everything only rewards the defense. No balance to it at all
I would definitely call the runner out for failing to avoid interfering with the catcher. Yes, runner lowered shoulder but it could be a reflex reaction to a body unexpectedly coming straight at him. I don’t think there is any real evidence that he was intentionally using excessive force on the catcher or intending to injure, which is malicious contact. I would have called interference but I couldn’t eject the runner without it being obvious.
I don’t understand how to reconcile case play #2 and #5. In case # 2 the stance is illegal. In case #5 the batter starts legal but after the swing ends up in a position that is illegal in case #2 but somehow is legal in case #5. The feet positions are the same. The only difference is that in case #2, the batter’s initial stance is illegal. In case # 5 the stance is legal, but the stride puts the batter’s feet in the same position as in case #2. In my opinion, in the interest of streamlining and simplification, all rules concerning these types of situations should require the batter’s feet to stay in the box “pre” and “post” stride.
I have an issue with case 5. How can you declare the batter out and the runner as well if you never called infield fly. Are the runners supposed to read your mind as an umpire? Either stick with your gut of no iff or call it a botched call and place runners where they should have been had the correct call been made at the right time.
Because it's not subject to the infield fly rule. It's subject to the intentionally dropped ball rule. You are not allowed to let a line drive or a popped up bunt attempt to drop - - deliberately in order to get a double play. It's not an infield fly rule. The batter and runner are not called out on an intentionally dropped ball rule. When a fielder deliberately drops a fly ball or bunt, the umpire will declare the play dead. The batter is out, and all runners return to the base they were on. Only the batter is out.
Great! A suggestion: at 5:38 you should be more precise: it's not the _infield fly_ that benefits the runners, it's the _infield fly _*_rule_* that benefits the runners. Without that rule, the infield fly would too dramatically benefit the defense. With the rule, the infield fly ball itself doesn't really "benefit" anybody.
I don't understand the statement that, as soon as a ball touches a player in foul territory, it's immediately foul and dead. How do we make plays in foul territory? Surely if foul ball is bobbled and then caught, it's still a fly out. Why is it different for the catcher?
The NFHS rule is not the most clearly written. However,the case book does a great job clarifying a specific ruling. FOUL BALL/FOUL TIP 2.16.2 SITUATION A: B1 swings and tips the ball and a) the ball goes directly to the catcher's glove and then rebounds to the catcher's chest protector, then the ball is caught by the catcher; or b) the ball goes directly to the catcher's chest protector and then is caught by the catcher. RULING: In a), the pitch is a strike and remains live. In b), this is a foul ball.
One of the biggest ways an umpire can keep a little league game moving is to limit the warm up pitches between innings. 7 for a new pitcher, 5 if they are continuing from a previous inning. Have the coach warm up the pitcher if the catcher is still struggling with rec league gear. These kids will throw 50 warm up pitches if you let them.
Love the advice! I do call all my fouls with a vocal followed by either giving a ball to the catcher to get back to the pitcher or throw it to the pitcher myself then with a vocal “play” 👉 It might be a little much but I am all about keeping the game going and on a time limit game I try my hardest to get all allowed innings in without disrupting the game on the umpire end of things.
Parents pay for at-bats, not two hours. Great job being kid first and encouraging pace of play. Kids will remember hits and action, and hopefully not boredom!
In my opinion: 1) De facto, no. Not to mention, because he was safe anyway, calling this only creates more problems. 2) Again, you could make an argument, but I don’t see how the runner was disadvantaged. No obstruction. 3) No, just no.
and if I can add to speed up a game and I am new to umping, there is that time right after the 3rd out and the team leaves the field, and you stand there waiting for the other team to take the field. I have had a few teams this year that love to gather up the team for a pre-defense chat before sending the team out to the field. This is for say 11U team. Well, I take that time toward the time the pitcher should be warming up for their 5 pitches. Once they do come out and, on the 2nd, warm up pitch I will call out, " Balls in". This to tell the catcher it is time to get going. A few times I have been questioned by a coach and that is when I nicely I explain they need to get moving between innings. If I can ask a quick rule question for high school baseball. Uncaught 3rd strike, what do most here in this group call if a player starts to walk back to the dugout. When do you call the player out?
Thanks, Patrick. You do a lot of great presentations (videos, podcasts, etc), but this may be your best yet. This should be part of every association's training next pre-seson.
