The livestream didn't get up and going for the 9:30am session, we'll be uploading that recording today, but you can watch the 10:45am session here:ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MpmTQpFASnU.html Both will also be on the church website or app: immanuelbaptist.org
Thomas Ice, Let Us Together, 'FACT-CHECK' the "Pre-Trib" RAPTURE !!! The "Pulpiteers" and Rapture "Guru's" claim, that Jn.14:3, ...."proves" a "Pre-Trib" Rapture, based on the "altered Wording", ( in the KJV, Bible , in 1610 A.D.) By the Jewish 'Mystic', FRANCIS BACON, which declares; ..."I am coming Again, and shall receive you unto myself". However, That is NOT what the "koine" Greek, Byzantine text declares. ( which is the foundational Greek text for the KJV Bible ) As the Greek text declares in Jn.14:3, ....( "kai ean poreuthO kai hetoimasO humin topon palin erchomai paralEpsomai humas pros emauton hina hopou eimi ego kai humeis ete". Which Correctly translated reads as follows; ...."And if-ever I-may-be-being-gone and I-should-be-making-ready to-Ye place, Again I-am-Coming and I-shall-be-beside-getting Ye toward myself , that the where am I and You may-be" Now NOTICE, Jesus is Speaking here to the Saints that in the "Future Will Die", for whom He was "Going Away to prepare a Place for", in his Fathers house !! It is These Saints, who's SOULS and SPIRITS after death are in Heaven, that Jesus is Referring to, when Announcing His SECOND COMING to Earth, and that He will be "Beside getting Ye", ( these Saints in Heaven ) and Bringing Them With when He returns to Earth, at the future Second Advent !! This TRUTH is Also Corroborated in 1.Thess.4:14, which declares; ..."For if we believe that Jesus Died and Rose Again, even so those who 'sleep in Jesus', will God bring With Him". FACT CHECK; .....Acts 3:20-21, declares that; ....."Christ MUST REMAIN in HEAVEN, Until the Restitution of All Things". ( which cannot begin until the LAST DAY of the Seven year TRIBULATION, when SATAN Will Be Bound, and the ANTICHRIST and THE FALSE PROPHET are cast into the Lake of Fire. ) FACT CHECK; .....1.Thess.4:16-17 declares in verse 16,that ;..."The DEAD IN CHRIST will RISE FIRST". ( and such "RISING FIRST" of these "DEAD IN CHRIST", Must INCLUDE The "Tribulation MARTYRS", who according to Rev.6:9-11, and Rev.20:4, are ONLY Resurrected at the Very END of the TRIBULATION !! Which Means according to Rev.6:9-11, and Rev.20:4, that the FIRST RESURRECTION Will HAPPEN on the Very LAST DAY of the TRIBULATION !! ) Then 1.Thess.4:17, declares that; ,,..."We that are Alive and REMAIN, will be Caught-Up Together with THEM". ( that means at THAT Same Time, that These "DEAD IN CHRIST who RISE FIRST", are Resurrected !! ) And Not at ANY-TIME Before that Time !! Never mind the Falsehood, of a Whole SEVEN Years BEFORE That Time, of the End of the Tribulation, as propagated by the "Pre-Trib" Rapture Theory. FACT CHECK; .....Rev.20:5, declares that; ..."The FIRST and the SECOND RESURRECTION are Separated by EXACTLY "One Thousand Years, and that the SECOND RESURRECTION Would Occur, "when the Thousand years were Finished" !! (that then means, that the FIRST RESURRECTION Will Happen at the VERY END of the Seven YEAR TRIBULATION. ) Which categorically DESTROYS this HERESY of a "Pre-Trib" RAPTURE, as We that are Alive and Remain, are said in 1.Thess.4:16-17, To be "Caught-Up" ( Raptured ) TOGETHER with These "DEAD IN CHRIST", who will "RISE FIRST". And These FACTS, Exposes All the "Pre-Trib" 'Pulpiteers' and Indoctrinated Rapture Guru's, as Propagating HERESY, and Un-Biblical Doctrines of DEMONS !! Morgan Sorensen ( Biblical Theologian )
Thomas Ice, Let Us Together, 'FACT-CHECK' the "Pre-Trib" RAPTURE !!! The "Pulpiteers" and Rapture "Guru's" claim, that Jn.14:3, ...."proves" a "Pre-Trib" Rapture, based on the "altered Wording", ( in the KJV, Bible , in 1610 A.D.) By the Jewish 'Mystic', FRANCIS BACON, which declares; ..."I am coming Again, and shall receive you unto myself". However, That is NOT what the "koine" Greek, Byzantine text declares. ( which is the foundational Greek text for the KJV Bible ) As the Greek text declares in Jn.14:3, ....( "kai ean poreuthO kai hetoimasO humin topon palin erchomai paralEpsomai humas pros emauton hina hopou eimi ego kai humeis ete". Which Correctly translated reads as follows; ...."And if-ever I-may-be-being-gone and I-should-be-making-ready to-Ye place, Again I-am-Coming and I-shall-be-beside-getting Ye toward myself , that the where am I and You may-be" Now NOTICE, Jesus is Speaking here to the Saints that in the "Future Will Die", for whom He was "Going Away to prepare a Place for", in his Fathers house !! It is These Saints, who's SOULS and SPIRITS after death are in Heaven, that Jesus is Referring to, when Announcing His SECOND COMING to Earth, and that He will be "Beside getting Ye", ( these Saints in Heaven ) and Bringing Them With when He returns to Earth, at the future Second Advent !! This TRUTH is Also Corroborated in 1.Thess.4:14, which declares; ..."For if we believe that Jesus Died and Rose Again, even so those who 'sleep in Jesus', will God bring With Him". FACT CHECK; .....Acts 3:20-21, declares that; ....."Christ MUST REMAIN in HEAVEN, Until the Restitution of All Things". ( which cannot begin until the LAST DAY of the Seven year TRIBULATION, when SATAN Will Be Bound, and the ANTICHRIST and THE FALSE PROPHET are cast into the Lake of Fire. ) FACT CHECK; .....1.Thess.4:16-17 declares in verse 16,that ;..."The DEAD IN CHRIST will RISE FIRST". ( and such "RISING FIRST" of these "DEAD IN CHRIST", Must INCLUDE The "Tribulation MARTYRS", who according to Rev.6:9-11, and Rev.20:4, are ONLY Resurrected at the Very END of the TRIBULATION !! Which Means according to Rev.6:9-11, and Rev.20:4, that the FIRST RESURRECTION Will HAPPEN on the Very LAST DAY of the TRIBULATION !! ) Then 1.Thess.4:17, declares that; ,,..."We that are Alive and REMAIN, will be Caught-Up Together with THEM". ( that means at THAT Same Time, that These "DEAD IN CHRIST who RISE FIRST", are Resurrected !! ) And Not at ANY-TIME Before that Time !! Never mind the Falsehood, of a Whole SEVEN Years BEFORE That Time, of the End of the Tribulation, as propagated by the "Pre-Trib" Rapture Theory. FACT CHECK; .....Rev.20:5, declares that; ..."The FIRST and the SECOND RESURRECTION are Separated by EXACTLY "One Thousand Years, and that the SECOND RESURRECTION Would Occur, "when the Thousand years were Finished" !! (that then means, that the FIRST RESURRECTION Will Happen at the VERY END of the Seven YEAR TRIBULATION. ) Which categorically DESTROYS this HERESY of a "Pre-Trib" RAPTURE, as We that are Alive and Remain, are said in 1.Thess.4:16-17, To be "Caught-Up" ( Raptured ) TOGETHER with These "DEAD IN CHRIST", who will "RISE FIRST". And These FACTS, Exposes All the "Pre-Trib" 'Pulpiteers' and Indoctrinated Rapture Guru's, as Propagating HERESY, and Un-Biblical Doctrines of DEMONS !! Morgan Sorensen ( Biblical Theologian )
Thomas Ice, Let Us Together, 'FACT-CHECK' the "Pre-Trib" RAPTURE !!! The "Pulpiteers" and Rapture "Guru's" claim, that Jn.14:3, ...."proves" a "Pre-Trib" Rapture, based on the "altered Wording", ( in the KJV, Bible , in 1610 A.D.) By the Jewish 'Mystic', FRANCIS BACON, which declares; ..."I am coming Again, and shall receive you unto myself". However, That is NOT what the "koine" Greek, Byzantine text declares. ( which is the foundational Greek text for the KJV Bible ) As the Greek text declares in Jn.14:3, ....( "kai ean poreuthO kai hetoimasO humin topon palin erchomai paralEpsomai humas pros emauton hina hopou eimi ego kai humeis ete". Which Correctly translated reads as follows; ...."And if-ever I-may-be-being-gone and I-should-be-making-ready to-Ye place, Again I-am-Coming and I-shall-be-beside-getting Ye toward myself , that the where am I and You may-be" Now NOTICE, Jesus is Speaking here to the Saints that in the "Future Will Die", for whom He was "Going Away to prepare a Place for", in his Fathers house !! It is These Saints, who's SOULS and SPIRITS after death are in Heaven, that Jesus is Referring to, when Announcing His SECOND COMING to Earth, and that He will be "Beside getting Ye", ( these Saints in Heaven ) and Bringing Them With when He returns to Earth, at the future Second Advent !! This TRUTH is Also Corroborated in 1.Thess.4:14, which declares; ..."For if we believe that Jesus Died and Rose Again, even so those who 'sleep in Jesus', will God bring With Him". FACT CHECK; .....Acts 3:20-21, declares that; ....."Christ MUST REMAIN in HEAVEN, Until the Restitution of All Things". ( which cannot begin until the LAST DAY of the Seven year TRIBULATION, when SATAN Will Be Bound, and the ANTICHRIST and THE FALSE PROPHET are cast into the Lake of Fire. ) FACT CHECK; .....1.Thess.4:16-17 declares in verse 16,that ;..."The DEAD IN CHRIST will RISE FIRST". ( and such "RISING FIRST" of these "DEAD IN CHRIST", Must INCLUDE The "Tribulation MARTYRS", who according to Rev.6:9-11, and Rev.20:4, are ONLY Resurrected at the Very END of the TRIBULATION !! Which Means according to Rev.6:9-11, and Rev.20:4, that the FIRST RESURRECTION Will HAPPEN on the Very LAST DAY of the TRIBULATION !! ) Then 1.Thess.4:17, declares that; ,,..."We that are Alive and REMAIN, will be Caught-Up Together with THEM". ( that means at THAT Same Time, that These "DEAD IN CHRIST who RISE FIRST", are Resurrected !! ) And Not at ANY-TIME Before that Time !! Never mind the Falsehood, of a Whole SEVEN Years BEFORE That Time, of the End of the Tribulation, as propagated by the "Pre-Trib" Rapture Theory. FACT CHECK; .....Rev.20:5, declares that; ..."The FIRST and the SECOND RESURRECTION are Separated by EXACTLY "One Thousand Years, and that the SECOND RESURRECTION Would Occur, "when the Thousand years were Finished" !! (that then means, that the FIRST RESURRECTION Will Happen at the VERY END of the Seven YEAR TRIBULATION. ) Which categorically DESTROYS this HERESY of a "Pre-Trib" RAPTURE, as We that are Alive and Remain, are said in 1.Thess.4:16-17, To be "Caught-Up" ( Raptured ) TOGETHER with These "DEAD IN CHRIST", who will "RISE FIRST". And These FACTS, Exposes All the "Pre-Trib" 'Pulpiteers' and Indoctrinated Rapture Guru's, as Propagating HERESY, and Un-Biblical Doctrines of DEMONS !! Morgan Sorensen ( Biblical Theologian )
This was a good series. I think the differing views on the rapture and 2nd coming can be traced to the individual believer's understanding on whether Christ is their Husbandman or their King.
I found your delivery very informative, thanks very much. May I ask your opinion? According to Esther at 4:11, "approaching the king" was a very dangerous thing to do. So how was it that, at 2:22, Esther was able to quickly inform the king of the plot to kill him? (I have an idea about this, but I'd like to know your idea.)
Part 2: the Pre - Tribulation Timing of the Rapture has always been false. By using all the principles we have discussed in Part 1: Take Heed How You Hear, we now can easily see why the Pre-Trib timing of the rapture by many in churchianity, is now, and always has been, false. Briefly, let us regard the accurate true apologetic reason why this is so. It is easily seen by honest ones, who are willing to admit they were ignorant of never having considered all that the Word has to say about such matters. In no point is the Word ever giving us false information. Here is what is grossly over-looked, or altogether neglected, in the false teaching that is Pre-Trib timing. Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given to them; and the souls of those who were beheaded for the witness of Yeshua, and for the Word of Elohim, and who had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Messiah a thousand years; 5 And the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were fulfilled: this is the First Resurrection. Let's bring forth the important ideas from this passage, with regard to the Resurrection of the dead. First, these are tribulation martyrs that are mentioned here. One cannot be a tribulation martyr without having been killed for their faith during the tribulation; this is obvious. These martyrs are intended in the phrase “the dead in Christ” (Messiah; 1 Thess 4:16); they were killed for their testimony and witness of Yeshua the Messiah. What is not so obvious to many here is what follows. They were also killed for the Word of Elohim. This means these martyrs refused to give up their witness to the Scripture of Truth in the face of false religion. They steadfastly 'held fast' to the profession of their faith when the peer pressure of multitudes who did not do so, came against them. They did not waver, nor fold, neither did they cave in under the pressure of fear of man, partiality, or respect for the persons of men. These martyrs are part of the First Resurrection; not the second, fifth, or last, or any other. They come with Messiah at the Resurrection of the dead. Now let's look at the description of the rapture event that Paul described at length. 1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope; 14 for if we believe that Yeshua died and rose again, even so also those who sleep in Yeshua will Elo'ah bring with him; 15 for this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that: we who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not go before those who sleep; 16 for the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of Elohim; and the dead in Messiah shall rise first; 17 then, we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Messiah comes at the Resurrection of the dead. There are two people groups identified in the passage above that are to partake in this event. There is also a precise order of events that is to occur at that time. The two groups are (1) the dead in Messiah, which we have already seen in Rev 20:4-5, includes TRIBULATION martyrs. The other group (2) are “those who are alive and remain.”
In Genesis Joseph married a Gentile bride (CHURCH) and he revealed him self to Israel (11 BROTHERS) as the Gentiles were sent out of the room but could still hear the weeping. If your using this scripture then JESUS would reveal HIMSELF to the Jews in the 2nd year of the tribulation with 5 years remaining, remember the extra provisions given to Benjamin. GOD BLESS YOU Rick Huntling
Daniel 9:27 is not a anti Christ the HE is CHRIST. The crucifixion occurred in the MIDST of the week meaning Wednesday-Thursday Passover, remember 3 days and 3 nights in the grave. A Thursday 3:00 PM death is the only Passover that allows for the 3 nights. This happened in the year 31 AD. You can check in the NASA new moons and calculate the Passover yourself. CHRIST confirmed IS covenant (GOSPEL) in that week with the many (every people, tongue, and nation) and with his perfect sacrifice made the need for the Jewish sacrifice to end (IT IS FINISHED) and any further sacrifice is a abomination to GOD. Then after 3 days the resurrection is the confirmation of HIS covenant with us being the FIRST FRUITS of the resurrection. HE started the week on Sunday before the Passover when HE entered the city and taught in the temple for 4 days(LAMB INSPECTED FOR BLEMISH OR SPOT). Daniel 9:27 is a literal week 7 days and the abomination is the Jews restarting the sacrificial system. So when you see this happen and your in Judah flee to the mountains. GOD BLESS YOU Rick Huntling
+Rick Huntling This is the reason Daniel's 70th week is still future and why this generation will see the pre-trib rapture. 1. Luke 21 was given in the daytime at the temple. 2. Matthew 24:3 and Mark 13:3 were asked at nighttime on the Mount of Olives. 3. The question asked in the Luke 21 passage is not the same question asked with the questions of Matthew 24:3 and Mark 13:3. Luke 21 answers the question on the destruction of the temple when not one stone will be left on one another. 4. The questions asked in Matthew 24:3 and Mark 13:3 are about the ending of Luke 21 and the end of the age. There is a gap in time from when these questions were asked. Matthew 24:3-51 and Mark 13:3-36 have nothing to do with the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D. There is no scripture that says the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. is at the end of anything. 5. The question in Luke 21 is - When will these things be, and what will be the signs that the temple is going to be destroyed? But the questions in Matthew 24:3 and Mark 13:3 are - When will these things be - What will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age. 6. The passages in Matthew 24:3 and Mark 13:3 continue from the start of the 4 seals of the book of Revelation. Luke 21:12 went back in time to answer the question of the destruction of the temple. As the flow of events go in Matthew 24 and Mark 13, the abomination of desolation (as spoken of by Daniel the prophet) causes the worst tribulation the world will ever see. This makes Daniel's 70th week in the end times. Because the worst tribulation the world will ever see is in the end times. Same as Daniel 12:1-12 which speaks of the worst time of trouble the world will ever see and is a time when knowledge will increase. Because the first 4 seals are connected to the abomination of desolation, they are included in Daniel's 70th week. The disciples did not know it but there is going to be a gap in time from the destruction of the temple till the start of the seals in the end times. We know this is the continuation of the church age after the Apostles were martyred and the churches continue to this day. 7. So the first question was when will these things be. This question has nothing to do with 70 A.D. because it is connected with the question about the end of the age. All the questions in Matthew 24:3 and Mark 13:3 are dealing with the end times. Because they were asked at nighttime on the Mount of Olives and the answer about the destruction of the temple was already given during the day. Why would they ask the same question again? The answer is these things related to the 4 seals and then the abomination of desolation and the signs in the sun and moon are in Daniel's 70th week in the end times. Jesus gives the answer in the flow of events of Daniel’s 70th week. It ends on the day the sun and moon are darkened. And the Lord Jesus is visible to the world. 8. In the end times, there will be a 7 year tribulation with the abomination of desolation in the middle of the week. All the scriptures that reference this event marking the mid-point of the 7 years are for the end times. With that said, there are many scriptures and they are all converging on the last day of Daniel's 70th week. The antichrist will have authority to continue 42 months. The Gentiles will trample underfoot the city of Jerusalem for 42 months. The woman is hid in the wilderness for 1260 days from the serpent. The saints are given into his hands for 3 1/2 years. The power of the holy people is completely shattered after 3 1/2 years and then all is fulfilled. But Daniel 9:24 says Jesus returns on the very last day of Daniel's 70 week. This day will be known by millions. The angels in heaven will know the day 7 biblical years before the event. And the Son of God will know the day 7 biblical years before the event Zech 14:7. The end will be on the day the sun and moon are darkened. 9. The second question is related to Luke 21:29-36 and the end of the age. In the Greek this word for age is eon. Luke 21 says one generation will see the Fig Tree bud. Scripture says when this happens, the kingdom of God is near. The answer in Matthew 24:32-51 and Mark 13:28-36 is more detail on the end of the church age from Luke 21:29-36 when the Fig Tree bud. There will be a generation watching these events and when the branches of the Fig Tree just start to get tender, that day is at the door. That day is the pre-trib rapture and the door is the door to the third heaven. No man knows the day or the hour. So the church age will end at midnight on a day no man knows the day or the hour. The passages in Luke 21:29-36, Matthew 24:32-51, and Mark 13:28-36 are pre-trib passages and that is why they are different from known second coming passages. I will post the differences at another time. This scripture makes a huge difference. Luke 21: 37 And in the daytime He was teaching in the temple, but at night He went out and stayed on the mountain called Olivet.
I believe in a pre-trib rapture and the time of the Gentiles (GAP). l agree with all the scriptures you show, but the 9:27. The HE is CHRIST when you study the Hebrew and the week (7 days) is the very last week of the 69th week. I know that the 70th is still to come (Jacob's trouble) Mathew 24:15 is the Jews setting up for the restart of animal sacrifice. Jews sacrificing is an abomination just as Antiochus sacrificing the pig in the Temple was. The Daniel CHRIST speaks of in Mathew 24:14 is the Dan 12:11 verse. With the misreading of the Dan 9:27 is that you detract from the Glory of GOD performing the complete redemption of man, and instead make him the antichrist with a peace treaty and a statue set up in the new Jewish temple that ends the new Jewish sacrifice in the middle of the tribulation. GBU Rick Huntling PS look on youtube for Jews4yeshua He is an Dr. in the study of Hebrew and greek.
+Rick Huntling This is a very dangerous interpretation in Hebrew for those left behind. Because what you are saying is Daniel 9 lays out the 70 week prophecy, says the 69th week ends when the Messiah is cut off, then the text starts talking about the destruction of the city and the temple which occurred in 70 A.D., then all of a sudden the text goes back some 40 some years to the time of Jesus in 30 A.D. And in the future 7 year tribulation, the Jews will have no idea who is taking control of the world. Even if the 7 year covenant is created by the 10 kingdoms that take control of this world after the rapture, when the antichrist appears and subdues 3 of the first 10, they will not know who he is. And he will confirm a covenant already in place but bring with him the red horse, the black horse and the pale horse with the 4 seals of Revelation. This means the Jews will not know who this person is till mid-trib when he will be revealed. And this is how I believe it will unfold. If you read my post above, what I am saying is Matthew 24:3-31 and Mark 13:3-27 have nothing to do with 70 A.D. So these are future passages. Mark 13: 9 “But watch out for yourselves, for they will deliver you up to councils, and you will be beaten in the synagogues. You will be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony to them. 10 And the gospel must first be preached to all the nations. 11 But when they arrest you and deliver you up, do not worry beforehand, or premeditate[c] what you will speak. But whatever is given you in that hour, speak that; for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit. 12 Now brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. 13 And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end shall be saved. Matthew 24: 9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. So 2 Thess 2 has these timings. The restrainer is removed first. Then the world moves toward a one world apostate harlot religion. And this harlot worships the unholy trinity (Satan, the beast, and the false prophet). The antichrist is revealed mid-trib and this starts great martyrdom at the fifth seal. It is at this point the greatest outpouring of the Holy Spirit the world has ever seen is poured on tribulation saints before the Day of the Lord begins from the sixth seal till the seventh bowl. Joel 2: 28“And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions. 29 And also on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days. 30 “And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth: Blood and fire and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord. So these are the timings. The pre-trib rapture before the seals are opened. A little time passes and Daniel's 70th week begins The 4 seals of Revelation are inside the first 3 1/2 years. 2 witnesses appear to restore the relations before the Lord strikes the Earth with a curse. The abomination of desolation mid-trib The fifth seal starts great martyrdom worldwide. The sixth seal starts the Day of the Lord. The Elect are sealed. 5 trumpet judgments and the birth pangs get more intense 6th trumpet - 2 witnesses killed. second woe is passed, the third woe cometh quickly The Elect are raptured before the 7 trumpet starts. 7th trumpet - last day of Daniel's 70th week, 7 Bowl judgments are poured on the wicked on the same day. The angels gather His Elect from all the nations. The next day is the first day of the millennium
+Rick Huntling These are the Rapture Passages: Matthew 24 32-51, Luke 21 29-38, Mark 13 28-36, Matthew 25 1-13 and Matthew 7 21-23 These are the Second Coming Scriptures: Luke 12 35-48, Luke 17 20-37 Matthew 13 24-30, Matthew 25 31-46, Matthew 24:29-31 Luke 21 25-28 and Mark 13 24-27 Here are some differences in the pre-trib rapture passages and the second coming passages: Luke 17: 34 I tell you, in that night there will be two men in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left. The words "in that night" is not in Matthew 24 because it is a normal day worldwide. But on the day of the second coming, the sun and moon are darkened. Luke 12:45 But if that servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and be drunk, The wickedness at the second coming is so bad that even the female servants at the second coming are beaten before the separation. Luke 12: 38 And if he should come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. This is not the watches from sunrise to sunset for the watch of the Feast of Trumpets. On that watch, no man knows the day or the hour. The watch on the day of the second coming is only for a few hours. Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. On the same day of the separation at the second coming, all the wicked are destroyed. At evening time there is light. The entire world will see the Lord and angels because the spiritual world will be seen by everyone. All the wicked are destroyed by 7 bowl judgments and time will be stopped while the great hail judgment destroys the remaining wicked before the next day. Living waters flow from Jerusalem and then the next day starts. Look at Matthew 24. Matthew 24:38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. The unrighteous do not know till later when they are destroyed. Noah entered the ark many times in Genesis 7. But in Genesis 7:1 and Genesis 7:4, Noah entered the ark and was found righteous in that generation. And destruction was still in the future. Matthew 24:51 and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. In this judgment, the righteous are taken and the unrighteous are left behind. There is no eternal judgment on this day. The Lord says to depart from me but not to depart from me into eternal fire. Later the ones left behind ask for the door to be opened for them also. No man knows the day or the hour. But look at the judgment in Luke 12. Luke 12:46 , and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. The wicked are beaten with different judgments depending on what they did. The passage of Lot is added to the day of the second coming. Luke 17:28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed. On this day the Lord will be revealed to the world. Also, on the same day of the separation at the second coming, the wicked are destroyed. The separation when Noah enters the ark and the separation when Lot leaves Sodom. As soon as the separation takes place, the wicked are destroyed. This is what happens at the second coming. At the second coming, the bridegroom is coming from a wedding. Luke 17:35 “Let your waist be girded and your lamps burning; 36 and you yourselves be like men who wait for their master, when he will return from the wedding At the rapture, the bridegroom is going to a wedding. Matthew 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut. Mark 13:34 For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. In the church age, the servants are given authority to do their work and there is a porter watching the door. Luke 12: 37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. There is no authority given to the servants to do work before the second coming. And there is no porter either. I believe these are put here for a reason. But the most convincing proof is the date of the second coming. It can already be shown that it is on the last day of Daniel's 70th week. And many will know the date 7 biblical years ahead of time. And at the abomination of desolation, many in Israel will know the date 1260 days ahead of time. The angels in heaven that gave the scriptures to the prophet Daniel will know the day. And the Son will know the day Zech 14:7.
+Neil Wani In the church age, born again believers are THE ELECTION. The church is removed before the seals are opened. But in Daniel's 70th week, 144,000 Jews are THE ELECT. They are the 12 stars on the woman's head. At mid-trib, Satan and his angels are thrown to the Earth. This maker will not be missed by people in the world. This will start martyrdom of believers on a scale unimaginable. The start of the Great Tribulation is the last 3 1/2 years of Daniel's 70th week. The wicked actually gain complete control of the world. If they were allowed to continue this martyrdom for the rest of the 3 1/2 years till the end of Daniel's 70th week, no believer would be alive. But for THE ELECT, those day are shortened. They are not raptured but are sealed at the sixth seal. The sun is darkened and the moon turns blood red. Every island and mountain are moved. This is the first contraction of birth pangs on the wicked and they shall not escape. The trumpet judgements start on the wicked and they get more intense. THE ELECT are still on the Earth because they could be deceived by false christs and false messiahs that appear close to the second coming, if that were possible. On the last day of Daniels 70th week, the sun and moon are darkened. THE ELECT are alive and are raptured to heaven a short time before the seventh trumpet sounds. They are virgins and they are blameless before the throne of God. Then the seventh trumpet sounds and the angels gather HIS ELECT from the nations of the world. Every island and mountain disappear. HIS ELECT go into the millennium without glorified bodies and are the ones that populate the millennium. They are the nations that are ruled by a rod of iron. There is a distinction in the Greek between THE ELECT and HIS ELECT in Matthew 24. If there is a gap between the rapture of the church and the start of Daniel's 70th week, the day of the rapture cannot be predicted at all But what I have been saying is Matthew 24:32-51, Mark 13:28-36 and Luke 21:29-36 are pre-trib rapture passages. And there is no eternal destruction on the day of the rapture of the church. And it does not fit the Day of the Lord scriptures. The ones left behind know nothing until later when the flood comes and destroys them all. In Genesis 7:1 and Genesis 7:4, eternal destruction is still future. The ones left behind are just told to depart from the Lord. When the branches of the Fig Tree just start to get tender, that day is at the door. When the Day of the Lord starts at the sixth seal, the Fig Tree is decimated at this point. I believe the end of the church age will be a shock and a trap for the world. But the wicked will slowly get more and more wicked as time moves on. 10 kingdoms take over the world. But with the appearance of the antichrist, these turn into 7 heads of blasphemy. When Satan is cast down from heaven, he possesses the antichrist and demands to be worshiped as God. It is at this point that the unholy trinity is in control of the world. And since the church is not here, the mystery apostate church worships the unholy trinity and persecutes the offspring of the woman with 12 stars. All the world will worship the beast, whose names are not in the Lamb's book of life. The evil that is being restrained will peak after mid-trib and martyrdom on a scale unimaginable will start then. That is why the Day of the Lord judgments start some time after mid-trib.
"Follow Me." This is what is missing in Christianity, not getting the lost to repent, but to follow us (and Christ). Only a Christian can repent. We need to disciple the new believer with our lives.
