358 winchester 225 grain nosler partition or 225 tsx Lights out

I’m in the Yukon. Totally agree with you. I’ve used 300 Win, 338-06, 45-70, 375 ruger and 58 cal TC big bore muzzle loader on bears. I taken both black and grizzly with these with great success.

I use 250 grain accubond in mine. Drops 'em every time

I've taken 4 black bear with a .270, one made the SCI record books and field dressed at 408 pounds. All 4 bears dropped in their tracks with 150 grain nosler partion. It's time for you to practice shot placement.

@@MetalStud I guess you didn't understand the idiot was shooting Hornaday SST bullet that is cheap garbage lead core target bullets that blow up on all game

@@MetalStud where did you shoot them? I think I want to hunt bear with a 270

Part of your problem was probably the SST. Did you retrieve the bear? How do you know you hit the point of the shoulder?

@@MetalStud and pick a better bullet for the job, like you did.

Bears are strong mother fuckers with heavy bones

@@sunnyztmoney they aren't. Half a dozen of the last bears I shot were with recurve with 40# limbs casting an arrow at 150fps. The last bear I shot was a dominant boar with a 45acp. 230gr xtp leaving the muzzle at 950fps and it went about 30yds. Of all the game I've shot bears go down the quickest/easiest. The issue lies in hunters that have a combination of inability to place their shot where and when it counts, and lack of knowledge of where the vitals are located. Basically for competent hunters they are very easy to kill. For incompetent hunters, they are hard to kill. Same animal, same toughness.

@@NorthRiverGuide elephants are strong and large too but if you shot one in the eye it would go down too. Bears are tougher game than deer is what I meant

@@sunnyztmoney if your plan was to take down an elephant, the eye would be a very poor spot to try and place your shot. When hit comparably, deer tend to travel a further distance than a bear and also take longer to die. Other than moose, bears have to be pound for pound the easiest to kill animals out there.

Agree 110%

With modern powders, the '06 gives up so little to the 7mm. Rem. Mag that any animal hit with it inside 500 yards will not know the difference. Trajectory and wind drift is also very close. If you have a reliable accurate rifle chambered in either of these cartridges, you can hunt anything on the North American continent with confidence.

I just shot a bear at 370 yards yesterday with my 30-06.

Id rather have the 7mm Mag, but it really depends on the rifle. The 7mm Mag is the better cartridge of the 2, but the old 30-06 is a pretty good round. The recoil on the 7mm is stout, and fast follow up shots is not going to happen. A M1 Garand in 30-06 has very fast follow up shots and a larger magazine. I suppose if i were being charged by a bear id want the M1, and if i was in a stand waiting for the bear, then id take the 7mm Mag.

@@blueduck9409 My question is "Do I think it's entirely up to me, exactly when I might be charged by a bear? When I was in Svalbard, the guy who was guarding the camp at night, fell asleep. When we all woke up in the morning, we had a Polar bear circling the camp, and left tracks in the snow. We were hunting, and we only had a 12g pump shotgun with us.

I'll take 8mm mauser full military load 196 grain pill.

Great choice, more than enough.

150s might be a little light for this cartridge because they are generally lightly constructed. I'd go with a 180 or heavier.

@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 150 accubond at 3400fps works

He said 25-06 is his minimum not 30-06.

Jack O’Connor would disagree with you

@@haneshuntspnw7283 Jack thought the answer to every question was the .270 lol.

@@twotwentyswift jack was stupid.

@@twotwentyswift you obviously never read what Jack OConnor actually wrote.

With a decent shot placement, and at a moderate range, absolutely.

No, the mid sized cartridges will not be overkill for deer. I myself shoot a 270 wsm and its my all round hunting rifle. I also shoot a 30-06 which is more then adequate for anything in North America. The 7mm Rem Mag is great as well. Remember all these rounds have different types of bullets and bullet weights available and those two factors will matter more then the caliber or cartridge. Pick a bullet style appropriate for the animal and youll be good.

Hard to go wrong with an '06. Modern powders have really increased the potential of this fine old cartridge. The recoil is manageable for most shooters, it can carry almost 1500 foot pounds of energy out to 500 yards, is relatively flat shooting, and it's available almost anywhere.

@Jess Hadlock Blood shot meat is caused by ignorant dumb asses using lead core bullets that blow up on impacting game. All meat damage can be stopped by shooting any of the all copper expanding bullets.

Yea the 7mm-08 has grain starting at 120 and gose up to 140 and 150 grain

What about the 35 Remington