As a returning goat format player that's attempting to teach my wife (total noob), there really is a lot MD falls short on with acclimating ppl to the mechanics by not having older formats to get your feet wet.
I got into master duel having never played yugioh or read any guidelines prior and I found ways to build my own deck and win with them, have fun with them… it’s complicated at first but the game gets better when you adapt and select an archetype that suits your play style
So I tried getting into the physical after having a decent amount of fun on duel links and yu-gi-oh duel masters and I was building the thrish zero deck and it was pretty decent but the things that I was needing were literally hundreds of dollars so I said I guess there’s not a whole lot I can do about the level of that deck so then I found my six samurai deck that I really enjoyed but something the pieces I was needing blocked me by price yet again so then I started trying to find budget decks except I was building “budget” even Dino’s are expenissive like I thought magic was really bad but then you realize that most things that your deck requires are to high but I think yugioh can be fun just to high costing and to difficult to get into at a easier to understand some kind of real tier system so you have beginner intermediate expert and master than give outlets to modern yugioh this way you can intro the mechanics and cover effects
I'd just like to say as someone who started officially playing yugioh 2 years ago. It's not as bloody hard as people act like it is. Use some common sense oh you can't figure something out? That's why there's hundreds probably thousands upon thousands of hours of people playing yugioh on RU-vid. It took me all of a week to figure out the way to play this game. It's not that difficult if you actually COMMIT TO LEARNING. Something clearly people from other card games don't want to do.
Agree. There is a negative stereotype about yugioh with the whole "too much text, no reading" thing. Which makes the entry experience for pepole playing other cardgames intentionally worse
Nah, hes clearly from the short bus if he doesn't know what excavate means. I just got into master duel and a quick RU-vid video helped me craft a competitive deck quick.
The game sucks to play First turn kills Long summoning chains that take up way too much time on say master duel or edopro Im sorry nobody wants to watch you summon for 5 minutes straight The tcg effectively only allows for play of certain decks by virtue of power creep Its not only old decks like blue eyes But brand new decks are just unplayable, they lose first turn say g golem or war rock Its really just sad like the game has no player choice beyond just play tier 0 strat or lose, it's a really boring and stale way of encourging new set sales Also card design, it's just faster and faster versions of the same deck style that yusei played yknow kinda weak extenders leading into big extra deck monster Even when they try more unique deck ideas ig pendulum or link It just devolves into lol summon more card rather then actually utilizing the mechanic like co linking or using the arrow effects Its a bloody joke Same with xyz some cards dont even require removing a overlay unit as to utitze the effect The game also lacks any form of media or game outside of just the card game at least these days which makes it hard to like Btw long term enjoyment with yugioh is hard, cause decks come and go like flies drop Meaning hard to stay attached to anyone deck And pricing is a issue, its like 100 dollars or more for a actually viable deck that can win games even at a local card shop And despite spending that much money, your deck will get power crept out of relevance or just outright put on the komani banlist which mostly everyone uses so if you wanna actually play in real life enjoy spending hundreds of dollars every month.
The game sucks to play First turn kills Long summoning chains that take up way too much time on say master duel or edopro Im sorry nobody wants to watch you summon for 5 minutes straight The tcg effectively only allows for play of certain decks by virtue of power creep Its not only old decks like blue eyes But brand new decks are just unplayable, they lose first turn say g golem or war rock Its really just sad like the game has no player choice beyond just play tier 0 strat or lose, it's a really boring and stale way of encourging new set sales Also card design, it's just faster and faster versions of the same deck style that yusei played yknow kinda weak extenders leading into big extra deck monster Even when they try more unique deck ideas ig pendulum or link It just devolves into lol summon more card rather then actually utilizing the mechanic like co linking or using the arrow effects Its a bloody joke Same with xyz some cards dont even require removing a overlay unit as to utitze the effect The game also lacks any form of media or game outside of just the card game at least these days which makes it hard to like Btw long term enjoyment with yugioh is hard, cause decks come and go like flies drop Meaning hard to stay attached to anyone deck And pricing is a issue, its like 100 dollars or more for a actually viable deck that can win games even at a local card shop And despite spending that much money, your deck will get power crept out of relevance or just outright put on the komani banlist which mostly everyone uses so if you wanna actually play in real life enjoy spending hundreds of dollars every month
I tried to come back to yugioh After a 10 year break (like firefist era) and its just insane. The game so complex now, so much negate and 10 minute combos its insane for someone New or returning. Started to give the pokemon tcg a try and its so beginner friendly. On pokemon tcg live you Even get All meta Decks for free basically atm and they are all kinda simple and they are really cheap compared to yugioh if you buy them irl (like 200€ at Max for a big Event winning Deck). So yugioh will probably Lose all New players to pokemon at some point and even Veteran players, because you have to keep up Bad spent a lot to stay highly competetive, or even semi competetive. And that is a struggle as a adult with a 40h work Week, other Hobbys or a family
I knew i couldn't play the game anymore after walking away and coming back to play, encountering someone normal summoning a blue eyes without tributing or using a spell card. What makes it even worst is that redditors made it seem like that change to the card was completely normal 😂😂😂
it's a shame that yugioh has a hard skill curve, because the player base is for the most part nice and welcoming. I've gotten into tcg's with magic and i've been playing since 2012 and i've met soooo many assholes in that game, like there was this new card shop that open up where i live and they banned most of the mtg players because how mean and rude they are one guy who worked there tried to get into mtg but quit and sold his cards, because of how mean the players are, in mtg arena I've gotten timed out soooo many times, because I beat them, and not like I was using toxic deck i was using aggro, self mill, and decks that had a fun gimmick to play. In yugioh i''ve had players who I just met buy me cards for my deck, i've seen other players in tournaments reinsure other players that it takes time to learn their decks and that they are still learning their decks as well. I've never seen those things in mtg tournaments. in master duel I've only been timed out a handful of times and i've put 147 hours into it.
It looks yugioh made one mistake that other card games didn't. They added too many mechanics. Usually card games never adds new mechanics or a few new mechanics that are put in the game a far distance of time from each other. That is why yugioh is so complicated. They released so many new mechanics with practically no time in between them. Instead of balancing and or added more to current mechanics, they added a new mechanic. Yugioh keep adding new mechanics to attract more and more people to the game. But in doing that, the game has become too complicated. They must have realized that since no new mechanic has been added since links. you can't call yugioh a children card game anymore since it has become too complicated for children to play properly.
I was a comp player back around inception. I went to several regional and qualifying tournaments, etc. When i came back to ygo(to master duel, i still haven't gotten back into paper) it took me likely around a month to regain the grasp of the game and another month at least to START building the required familiarity to be competitive again. I'm presently a diamond ranked player, former regional competitor, and i felt helpless simply RELEARNING a game i had played almost professionally in the past over the course of 20 years. When i last played paper ygo, i lost at my first table in Texas regional qualifiers to Inzektors (i was playing XX-Saber) as the brand new deck that was hitting. The speed and efficiency in which i lost was mind boggling to me at the time. Now, in master duel, the difference between my old experience and my new experience is probably 10x the difference compared to when i first lost to inzektors almost 15 years ago... the game requires so much. Time. Comprehension. Experience. Patience. Money. More money. More time. A PhD in game theory, and a willingness to abandon everything you enjoy in pursuit of victory.
I've played Yu-gi-Oh on and off for years and tbh I'd recommend brand new players to Yu-Gi-Oh to play Legacy of the Duelist on Steam instead. It also has underwhelming tutorials but has a story mode to play through iconic duels of each anime in order which naturally increases complexity over time. If they can complete the entire campaign and still be enjoying Yu-Gi-Oh then they can 'graduate' to playing Master Duel.
Played TCG for a long time. Make different banlists/format so that people can play the era they prefer. You spectate the game now, you don't play the game. After synchros/xys, the game started going downhill. Why change the field architecture, for instance?
I just started playing like 2 or 3 weeks ago and it's really not that bad. I mean... I'm a fast reader though lol. True, every card is like literally a novel, but the level of absolutely broken crap is much, much worse imo. I understand the common cards now and I can pick up what my opponent is going for even if it's some engine I've never seen before, but the game would just be much so much better if things like kashtira etc. were removed, imo. Too many cards are actually just stupid, and you literally never see anything else on the ladder. I've been grinding the ladder w/ traptrix, which has been going well except for certain games where it actually just feels rigged. Opponent going first and popped off? No handtraps for you. Going first and need a starter / extender? Here, take both of your Nibiru's, ash, called by, etc. So many games are like that and it's actually just infuriating sometimes.
i started playing yugioh around the time MR4 (link monsters) and i had to learn by myself and it took me buying 2 structures and dueling myself while watching vrains and arc V to help me understand the mechanics and basic rules. then when i found a few guys to play the game with i ended up finding out none of us understood the game really well past the basics. so i had to go and look up rules and watch duels online to figure out how all the different summoning mechanics and card text worked as well as card wording rulings so i could "judge" the duels and tell them how their cards worked. when i felt comfy enough with the game to go to a locals, i found one about a hour away from me and when i went i learned that i still didnt have enough knowledge of the rules and game to play on a competitive level. this was after a year of already starting the game. i wish i wouldve had MD to help me learn the game at the time. getting into the game is super complicated and hard but once you have it down its amazing and can be goofy and fun
idk i entered yu gi oh by firts playing duel links but first i saw some tutorial videos then i still didnt care about reading card effects i just liked to summon big attack monster and have fun then when i got to the gx phase i just fell in love with the elemental heroes then i learned by my self how to use them effectbly
Only reason I managed to get into Master Duel when it came out was cuz I had past experience as a kid playing the DS games. Even then I had to put in a lot of effort to barely begin to understand everything. One of our friends had quite a bit of knowledge and I'd say he really helped me a lot on top of a bunch of content creators. Either way the main thing that kept me around for a while was playing with friends. Once they got tired of the problems with Yugioh and stuff like that so I stopped. Keep coming back every now and then when new support for decks I like comes out. The new RDA stuff was cool and the Amazoness stuff that was added a while back was neat to use on a sort of pet deck.
I agree with your point about custom retro formats acting as a tutorial, but they need to be mandatory to go through all of them to open ranked (after winning a number of duels to advance to the next one), of course it's not going to be every single banlist ever, but a select 5 or 7 that each represents a generation of yugioh's history (like goat and edison), like this new players can quickly get to playing pvp, and current players will finally get the retro formats they keep asking about, and i don't think it's wrong to make it mandatory to beat this challenge in order to start ranked, cause veteran players won't mind jumping through this small hurdle with each new account, and new players will more likely stay knowing that even if things get overwhelming later on they can just keep playing the older formats, which will slowely push them towards modren, heck konami can even make special retro format packs to encourage spending
Issue is not MD, its Konami. They are actively ruining the game to make profits. Will be a slow decline fro here. Limited content outsude of rank, insufficient card bans for BO1, the same card design and that equals bad card design... What a joke.
To this day I don't understand how did I manage to learn this game on my own... I guess I loved the game so much that I couldn't just quit. Funnily enough, I learned how to play with (Dark Magician) I learned how to build a deck by myself when I started building (Blue Eyes) on my own (IDK why I didn't search for a guide). I used what I learned to play and build a meta deck which was (Branded).
I am here to remind everyone who disagrees with this man: Vaylantz: hardlegjoe has a 3 hour long sermon on "ATTEMPTING" to understand it 2024's THE RITUAL BEASTS: their are multiple combo videos on youtube. EVERY SINGLE ONE IVE FOUND IS AT LEAST 40 MINUTES LONG
I learned ygo from back old days pc game of joey kaiba and yami ones and some yu gi oh tag force lol ( I'm on confused on synchro and link summons) if u put time in reading cards and stuff you will figure it out, but i guess ppl don't wanna read but just rush win
Only people that build a borad to one turn kill think the way he does bro hes just salty cuhz theres a way to out his stupidway of playing yugioh😂@@lcDer2
I learned the game myself as well, but I actually played a gba game and then a ds game to familiarize myself with basic rules and easy plays first. It’s been about 2 months since I started playing ygo and I’m hares stuck in diamond with my best being master 5 and then tilt into diamond 4. The most complicated deck I can play is world chalice link spam and sylvan rikka with no spells. I’m also completely free to play so I don’t have the best cards. I pushed to master with the rikka deck and chain burn. I like this game but I cannot get any of my friends into it because they read ghost belle or the ruling on negates and dip right there. At the end of the day, a complicating hard to get into game with and gotcha elements is definitely a bad combo.
The idea of a Beginner Format is basically just Speed Duels, right? It has Skill Cards, which dont carry over to actual Yugioh, and isnt currently on Master Duel, but it is as beginner friendly as it gets.
Dont forget their are some decks that have essentially future proofed Yugioh Gx's jest that yugioh can get up to phd level mechanics. *Simply try understand Vaylantz or The Ritual Beasts with the 2024 support*
A good addition into MD would had been a fully fleshed out solo training enviroment, which you can modell the deck which the AI shall use and also the ability to build a deck with cards you either already own or not own, then during the duel with the AI, the game should show and teach different plays and combolines, analyzed from the current drawn hand you have. This would had helped immense for new players especially but also for those which want to learn new deckplays.
