Mission Through a unique blend of Bible study, Biblical scholarship, a creative nonfiction style, and personal reflection, I aim to present relevant historical background, provide greater understanding of Scripture's stories, offer emotional connections, and opportunity for spiritual growth.
thisi story is traguc most off the story is about him and then he makes a promise to the lord that s god gives him yhe victory he would he would offer upthe first thing that comes out of hs house as a burnt offering the lord gives him the vicroty and hs daughter comes out to greet him he gets upset that he has to offer her as a burnt offering she tellls him to keep his promse she gose off for a whike and then he offers her as a burny offferng that is sad
That is one of the ways the story can be understood. But as I studied this story more, and especially from the point of view of God, and from the scriptures that would have been available at that time. In the story, Jephthah is the first to call upon the name of God, it is clear he knows his history, and the scriptures, and he does not make his vow until the Spirit of the Lord comes upon him. His daughter asks that she be given time to mourn her virginity, not her life, indicating she will never marry, not that she will lose her life. So there is another very different way to understand this story. Hats why I made this video. Grace and peace, Joanne
Claudia Procula, the daughter of Julia? That sounds very sketchy to me. The historical record says that Julia gave birth to five children: Gaius , Lucius , Agrippina the Elder , Julia the Younger , and Posthumous. The five children of Marcus Agrippa Julia's second husband. Julia was twice a widow.
@JeffDbury thank you for your added information about Julia's life. It sounds like you've researched her a bit. I'm away from my desk, but when I return I can list my resources--some of which I listed in the credits of this video.
@@GraceandPeaceJoanne Another thing Julia was not taken toGaul either ,when she was banished ,she was first taken to Pandataria , an island off of Campania, and then she was moved to Rhegium, a town in Calabria, where under the orders of Tiberius , she died of starvation.
You are absolutely right. In fact, I think those women prophets acted as role models and inspiration for Anna. In my book, that goes with this series, "Broken, Searching, Trusted, Powerful," I offer Bible studies for each of the women featured. In the "Anna" chapter, I ask people to read the narratives of these Hebrew Bible era women prophets and think about what impact their stories might have had on Anna.
I'm so glad it was helpful. When I read a story in the Bible, one of the tools I use is called "narrative criticism." It means approaching the story on its own merit, without having a preconceived idea of how the story is to unfold. I also try to understand the language, too. I'm better with Greek than Hebrew, I'm still learning. May God continue to undergird you in your study. Grace and peace, Joanne
I really feel for Michal. She loved David. He had to go into hiding to save his own life. But he went ahead and pick up other wives here and there. She was abandoned by him. Then Saul took her back into his household and married her off to a man who actually did love her. THEN, when Saul was killed, David forced her to return to him and tore her away from her own husband, who tried desperately to get her back. Then he danced and celebrated as she was mourning her father's death, and being ripped away from the husband who actually did care about her. So when she criticized David for dancing, she was abandoned and shamed for the rest of her life. Seems like he should have just left her with her real husband, but his ego got in the way.
You bring up some great points about Michal mourning her father, and the loss of her previous husband, who loved her. I wish I had included those points in my own presentation, they're important. Yes, she was delivered several really rough blows in her life, all situations she had no control over. My heart goes out to her.
I would have made this short, but there are too many things said and taught which are untrue. It's two comments as one reply. First, the scriptures never implied that David remarried before Michal was given away. Neither does it's placement after the marriages David had in text imply otherwise. It says "but", then states that Saul had her remarried, implying the contrary of your statement. Saul nor his people had any way to know David had new wives either, he wasn't in contact with them. According to the Law of Moses he didn't even have the authority to do this, since she was married. The husband has the say so, not the father. Even vows a wife made to God could be annulled if the husband disagreed. She could have therefore refused and appealed to God directly, and possibly even Samuel since he wasn't dead yet. Paul later confirms a woman's obedience directly to her husband in the Law of Moses. I doubt she would die either, as Jonathan and the priests at Nob were refused to be attacked by Saul's men in separate events. They even saved Jonathan from Saul himself. There are plenty of times in the scriptures where things are not in chronological order as you suggested, I'll post an example. You also said she had no options, only to later say she had David's estate after marrying again. Second, Jonathan was a warrior well established on the battlefield. Him leaving without Saul or reporting his location is not odd, he's done it before. Third, Michal would need to be escorted out of the kingdom or risk her life going alone, and the soldiers would not allow this without a reason from Saul. Also, David trying to go meet her would put him in danger, and he might need to fight Israelites if caught. He never fought Israel even while being hunted. He was already threatened at his home anyway, going back is a death wish. Fifth, bringing up laws that have nothing to do with Israel is a terrible point. The Law of Moses specified to ignore all the laws of everyone else as a direct command from God. Sixth, David's family would be putting themselves against the Kingdom by taking Michal in. David's father was old anyway, and he had both his parents relocated to Moab for their protection. This proves the threat was present. Seventh, the law from Deuteronomy you mentioned applies when a man divorced his wife, which David did not do. You should know this, and should have read the verses preceding that one. Eighth, Saul's entire lineage was not destined to die through Samuel's prophecy, the kingdom simply was given to David, and his sons that accompany him die. Saul's grandson Mephibosheth lived and ate with David's family, so you're wrong. This man also had a son, Saul's great grandson. Also, once married, the woman and her children are attributed to the husband's lineage, so any children she would have had were fine. This is why daughters are "given" in marriage, as in given to that family. They become that man's family, not the father's. Ninth, when we die we are simply asleep, as in unconscious. The only difference is the soul leaves the body. This is why Jesus referred to Lazarus as asleep, but then plainly said he was dead when the apostles misunderstood. The promise of joy in the Kingdom of Heaven is after the resurrection. After death we are resting, unaware of anything, Solomon confirmed this. Tenth, where do you get that she was tall from? Its not in the Bible. Eleventh, the linen ephod was something normally worn by priests as a set. It was NOT anything like a loin cloth. It was originally attached to the breastplate of the priests, and David wore it before that day to consult God just as the priests multiple times. By no means was he dancing naked or anything like that, because the priests had linen underwear to cover their "nakedness", which was already covered by the robe. I'm not saying that he had the full priest set, it was just added to what he had. What you're depicting is akin to a stripper. When Michal said David "uncovered himself" she meant he was dancing foolishly in his celebration to God, carrying himself without pride as king, and dancing like a regular Israelite without prestige. Notice that no other wife cared, That's why he responded by saying he was chosen over Saul, because Saul DID NOT OBEY OR PROPERLY HONOUR THE LORD, and therefore lost his position. Saul cared about the opinion of Israel too much, this is documented. Lastly, condemning David for these things when God never did should have been enough for you to understand he did nothing wrong. Michal stepped out of line by not only disrespecting David, but voicing discontent for his humility in serving God, who saved his life many times. Neither was Michal cursed, he simply never slept with her anymore. He did this to the ten concubines that slept with Absalom too, same deal.
Here are the scriptures to support my statements. 1 Samuel 25:44 KJV [44] But Saul had given Michal his daughter, David's wife, to Phalti the son of Laish, which was of Gallim. Numbers 30:13 KJV [13] Every vow, and every binding oath to afflict the soul, her husband may establish it, or her husband may make it void. ☝🏾The verse above applies to the woman's father as the authority only if she is unmarried, which she wasn't. This proves a husband's authority vs a father, backed by God. 1 Corinthians 14:34 KJV [34] Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 1 Samuel 22:16-17 KJV [16] And the king said, Thou shalt surely die, Ahimelech, thou, and all thy father's house. [17] And the king said unto the footmen that stood about him, Turn, and slay the priests of the LORD; because their hand also is with David, and because they knew when he fled, and did not shew it to me. But the servants of the king would not put forth their hand to fall upon the priests of the LORD. 1 Samuel 14:44-45 KJV [44] And Saul answered, God do so and more also: for thou shalt surely die, Jonathan. [45] And the people said unto Saul, Shall Jonathan die, who hath wrought this great salvation in Israel? God forbid: as the LORD liveth, there shall not one hair of his head fall to the ground; for he hath wrought with God this day. So the people rescued Jonathan, that he died not. 1 Samuel 25:13-14 KJV [13] And David said unto his men, Gird ye on every man his sword. And they girded on every man his sword; and David also girded on his sword: and there went up after David about four hundred men; and two hundred abode by the stuff. [14] But one of the young men told Abigail, Nabal's wife, saying, Behold, David sent messengers out of the wilderness to salute our master; and he railed on them. ☝🏾 Once again "but" is used at verse 14, implying that Abigail was informed BEFORE David and his men marched toward the location. This is the same as the word "but" implying Saul getting Michal married before David wed Abigail. 1 Samuel 14:1 KJV [1] Now it came to pass upon a day, that Jonathan the son of Saul said unto the young man that bare his armour, Come, and let us go over to the Philistines' garrison, that is on the other side. But he told not his father. Leviticus 18:3-4 KJV [3] After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances. [4] Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God. 1 Samuel 22:3-4 KJV [3] And David went thence to Mizpeh of Moab: and he said unto the king of Moab, Let my father and my mother, I pray thee, come forth, and be with you, till I know what God will do for me. [4] And he brought them before the king of Moab: and they dwelt with him all the while that David was in the hold. Deuteronomy 24:3-4 KJV [3] And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife; [4] her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. 2 Samuel 9:12-13 KJV [12] And Mephibosheth had a young son, whose name was Micha. And all that dwelt in the house of Ziba were servants unto Mephibosheth. [13] So Mephibosheth dwelt in Jerusalem: for he did eat continually at the king's table; and was lame on both his feet. Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV [5] For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. His reference☝🏾 to no reward means in this life, we should all know there are rewards waiting in the Kingdom of Heaven. John 11:11-14 KJV [11] These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. [12] Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. [13] Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. [14] Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead. Exodus 28:26-27 KJV [26] And thou shalt make two rings of gold, and thou shalt put them upon the two ends of the breastplate in the border thereof, which is in the side of the ephod inward. [27] And two other rings of gold thou shalt make, and shalt put them on the two sides of the ephod underneath, toward the forepart thereof, over against the other coupling thereof, above the curious girdle of the ephod. 1 Samuel 30:7-8 KJV [7] And David said to Abiathar the priest, Ahimelech's son, I pray thee, bring me hither the ephod. And Abiathar brought thither the ephod to David. [8] And David enquired at the LORD, saying, Shall I pursue after this troop? shall I overtake them? And he answered him, Pursue: for thou shalt surely overtake them, and without fail recover all. 1 Samuel 15:28, 30 KJV [28] And Samuel said unto him, The LORD hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, and hath given it to a neighbour of thine, that is better than thou. [30] Then he said, I have sinned: yet honour me now, I pray thee, before the elders of my people, and before Israel, and turn again with me, that I may worship the LORD thy God. 2 Samuel 20:3 KJV [3] And David came to his house at Jerusalem; and the king took the ten women his concubines, whom he had left to keep the house, and put them in ward, and fed them, but went not in unto them. So they were shut up unto the day of their death, living in widowhood.
Michal, without children, did not have a continuing claim on David’s property, and he being in exile, she effectively became “widowed.” Again, as I taught and cited, according to the custom and regional law of that day, she could not hold onto that estate without a child, but David would have left her there probably hoping she could manage it nonetheless. Doubtless neither of them knew how all this would play out, or whether she was even perhaps early with child. None of the rest of David’s large family appears to have helped her in any way. Agreed, David asked that his aging parents stay in Moab. But are you willing to say that all seven of David’s brothers had died, and there were, in fact, no kinsmen left in David’s extended family? Bringing up the regional law is an excellent point, not a terrible one. The laws of Moses covered many things, but they did not cover this exigency, and the final episode in Michal’s account, of being returned to David, points directly to this regional law and custom. Here are some papers to read on that: White, Ellen. "Michal the Misinterpreted." Journal for the Study of the Old Testament 31, no. 4 (2007): 451-464. Ben-Barak, Zafrira. “The Legal Background to the Restoration of Michal to David,” Telling Queen Michal’s Story: An Experiment in Comparative Interpretation, David J. A. Clines and Tamara Cohn Eskenazi, eds. Sheffield: JSOT Press, 1991. I am not sure what your point is about Jonathan. 1 Samuel 19-20 makes it clear Jonathan was keeping his relationship with David a secret, at this point, and using subterfuge to both communicate with and meet with David. Your point about Michal needing to be escorted is duly noted. But David had not left the kingdom at that point. David already had another woman living with him as his wife, and then David summoned a high-profile widow to meet him and marry him where he was holding camp in Judah. David did not join with the Philistines until after these events. I certainly do know the passage in Deuteronomy about divorce, and have read the papers that discuss that law with regard to David’s situation. Now you have a chance to begin your study as well, with the two papers I give above. Your discussion of Saul’s lineage is important. Saul’s line ends with the disabled Mephibosheth and the childless Michal in David’s house. In other words, Saul’s name comes to an end in the house of his successor. There are other factors that point to this being God’s intended fulfillment of Samuel’s prophecy-see 2 Samuel 21:1-14. Your assertion about what happens when we die is one way death is explained. Jesus also tells a story of a rich man who is anything but asleep in the afterlife as he gazes afar at the poor man in Abraham’s bosom whom he had treated poorly when they were both alive, Luke 16:23. A teraphim the size of a man would take a strong and probably tall person to maneuver single-handedly, as the text indicates. Several of the things Michal did in that story strike me as the actions of a strong, tall person. But, I agree, that is conjecture on my part. As to the ephod David was wearing, a plain undergarment without his kingly robes-or any robes at all, as was the custom of his day (to at least have one’s outer garment on) would have been considered indecent certainly for the role of king, and for anyone desiring to appear respectable. You make your own conjecture as to what Michal meant when she said “How the king of Israel honored himself today, uncovering himself today before the eyes of his servants’ maids, as any vulgar fellow might shamelessly uncover himself!” 2 Samuel 6:20, NRSVUE. There is no indication people in that day wore fitted undergarments, which is surely why Leviticus carries particular instructions to priests concerning that. Wearing a thin shift over an otherwise naked body which is dancing carries suggestive undertones.
Your next statement is also conjecture. The only thing to notice from the text is that no other wife’s concern was recorded. Your final statement is again conjecture. To use your words, the scripture does not state why Michal had no children. Is it possible she was simply barren, having so far not conceived in either of her marriages? Or is it possible David did not share conjugal rights with her? Or is there some third possibility, such as miscarriages and stillborn infants? The narrator only states the end result. The seeds sown in this interchange between David and Michal play themselves out in David’s story down the road until he stepped over a line that God would not countenance. I stand by what I teach, there. “I will make myself yet more contemptible than this, and I will be abased in my own eyes; but by the maids of whom you have spoken, by them I shall be held in honor.” 2 Samuel 6:22-23, NRSVUE. You will notice it is the maids’ attention both Michal and David are talking about, not the eyes of all Israel, nor even all Judah. And to be exact, it is not that Saul “did not obey or properly honour the Lord” and David did do so that makes the difference. There were, in fact, plenty of times when David also “did not obey or properly honour the Lord.” The difference between Saul and David is that David repented and returned to the Lord. David did terrible, terrible things, and he knew it. But he repented, and God restored him. Saul just made excuses. Let’s not fall into the trap of idolizing heroes from the Bible. That takes glory from God and provides very unstable ground for good teaching. Instead, let us look for God’s glory and God’s goodness in the lives of those who serve God. Michal has been vilified for far too long in order to make David look good. That’s bad teaching. How David treated Michal is not good. How David treated women in general, for the most part, was not good. David was a rascal, and he had some serious flaws. But David also loved the Lord like few ever have, he humbled himself time and again before the Lord, and was restored every single time. That is good teaching, and provides the kind of hope and fortification of faith that you and I, real people who also love God and serve God, need.
First, the law of Moses stated plainly that it is FORBIDDEN to follow the ways of the pagans or their customs and laws. Therefore we know that doesn't apply.Every other nation worshipped idols, and therefore is pagan. I will put it again. Second, you posted a book written by a woman to support a point. The Bible is the only authority, the rest is unnecessary at best, and blatant lies at worst. Adding on to the scriptures is FORBIDDEN. It specifically said that Saul lost his position for disobedience, Samuel said so. Samuel tried to intervene for Saul, then God told Samuel that he rejected him SPECIFICALLY because he wasn't following/obeying him. Samuel once again reiterated this later when he was conjured by the witch of Endor, so yes, it was for disobedience. This is the same guy that had almost an entire city slaughtered for his own purposes, a city of priests. Neither did Samuel say his whole bloodline would die, he said his sons would die, which some of them did. If that was the Word of God then Saul would have ZERO descendants left, so you're wrong. I have the scriptures to confirm this. Additionally this was never mentioned by God or Samuel until this last talk, it was only said that David would rule, all Saul had to do was step aside, he forced God's hand. I mentioned the underwear to show that even hidden nudity is forbidden, I posted the verses showing that it is an outer garment in a previous comment. Not putting that again. Double check what I put if you wish. It is worn by those deemed worthy, originally the priests as a part of communion with God, I posted scriptures to prove that. Lastly, as for these papers and your "teachings", women being forbidden to teach. You and this author. It is a COMMANDMENT of Lord Jesus himself through Paul, meaning the making of this video, the book mentioned, and your comments "teaching" me or anyone else are outright rebellion against God. Leviticus 18:3-4 KJV [3] After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances. [4] Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God. 1 Samuel 15:18-25, 30-31 KJV [18] And the LORD sent thee on a journey, and said, Go and utterly destroy the sinners the Amalekites, and fight against them until they be consumed. [19] Wherefore then didst thou not obey the voice of the LORD, but didst fly upon the spoil, and didst evil in the sight of the LORD? [20] And Saul said unto Samuel, Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the LORD, and have gone the way which the LORD sent me, and have brought Agag the king of Amalek, and have utterly destroyed the Amalekites. [21] But the people took of the spoil, sheep and oxen, the chief of the things which should have been utterly destroyed, to sacrifice unto the LORD thy God in Gilgal. [22] And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, As in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to hearken than the fat of rams. [23] For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, He hath also rejected thee from being king. [24] And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the LORD, and thy words: because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice. [25] Now therefore, I pray thee, pardon my sin, and turn again with me, that I may worship the LORD. [30] Then he said, I have sinned: yet honour me now, I pray thee, before the elders of my people, and before Israel, and turn again with me, that I may worship the LORD thy God. [31] So Samuel turned again after Saul; and Saul worshipped the LORD. 1 Samuel 28:15-19 KJV [15] And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do. [16] Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the LORD is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy? [17] And the LORD hath done to him, as he spake by me: for the LORD hath rent the kingdom out of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour, even to David: [18] because thou obeyedst not the voice of the LORD, nor executedst his fierce wrath upon Amalek, therefore hath the LORD done this thing unto thee this day. [19] Moreover the LORD will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines: and to morrow shalt thou and thy sons be with me: the LORD also shall deliver the host of Israel into the hand of the Philistines. 1 Samuel 31:2-6 KJV [2] And the Philistines followed hard upon Saul and upon his sons; and the Philistines slew Jonathan, and Abinadab, and Melchi-shua, Saul's sons. [3] And the battle went sore against Saul, and the archers hit him; and he was sore wounded of the archers. [4] Then said Saul unto his armourbearer, Draw thy sword, and thrust me through therewith; lest these uncircumcised come and thrust me through, and abuse me. But his armourbearer would not; for he was sore afraid. Therefore Saul took a sword, and fell upon it. [5] And when his armourbearer saw that Saul was dead, he fell likewise upon his sword, and died with him. [6] So Saul died, and his three sons, and his armourbearer, and all his men, that same day together. Proverbs 30:6 KJV [6] Add thou not unto his words, Lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. Deuteronomy 12:32 KJV [32] What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. 1 Timothy 2:11-15 KJV [11] Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. [12] But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. [13] For Adam was first formed, then Eve. [14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. [15] Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. 1 Corinthians 14:34-37 KJV [34] Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. [35] And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. [36] What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? [37] If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. I have posted the scriptures, and NO BEING IN EXISTENCE can deny the scriptures without being proven false. Even Satan knows to stop talking in that circumstance. I'm not idolizing anybody, I already stated how David was wrong about Bathsheba. Now you're falsely accusing me of idol worship. Smh. Neither try to say that this isn't "the church" so it doesn't matter. Christ said where 2 or 3 are gathered in his name, that is the church. The gathering of believers, nothing more, as there weren't always church buildings. Matthew 18:20 KJV [20] For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. I'm not replying to this specific sub thread anymore either. There's no point. I showed you how you have zero authority to teach anything about the Word. Heretic means someone refusing the correct teachings. Lord Jesus and his words reign supreme. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 KJV [3] For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; [4] and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Titus 3:9-11 KJV [9] But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. [10] A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; [11] knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
Yes, based upon the stories that would have been available to Jephthah at the time, the Law of God, also known by the tribes, the evidence points to Jephthah's daughter becoming a living sacrifice, serving the Lord for the rest of her life.
That’s not true tho u are watering it down to make it seem like God wasn’t the bad guy. Stop watering it down. God is kinda a bitch in the OT - he took her as a sacrifice just like he gave Miriam blisters.
@@GraceandPeaceJoanne that's what I was thinking. When you really think about the cold hard facts about this story, it's kind of a case of 'calling good evil and evil good'. It was a very dysfunctional self involved choice for Sarah to bring another woman into the situation to get what she wanted. Then blame Abraham when it went sour. Then put hagar and the child out..even with a possibility of death in the wilderness. Plus we know her and Abraham lie. Those choices speak of a terrible heart. Knowing what we know about the promises now, it seems off that Sarah would have the child of promise. Especially when we see Hagar having a deeper relationship with God. I think I need to do even more study on this! I love your channel!
This is one of the many things I love about the Bible--the narrators and writers pull no punches. These are all real people who did good things and bad things. The self-aware and God-aware ones who humbly acknowledged when they'd done bad things and asked for forgiveness from God (and many tried to make reparations to others too, when possible, if the other was willing to receive it) always were restored. It gives me a lot of hope. God's immeasurable patience, willingness to work with us, meet us where we really are, and restore us is such a better message than "Hey, look at these impossibly amazing heroes. Be like them!"
I just realized something. Tamar and Amnon is a parallel story. And she tells Amnon it would be even worse to send her away after what happened. I never understood that before. Why she would think that? But if you consider it a parallel story to hagar, it makes sense. Hagar was made to take part in the relationship and then she was sent away.
A couple of people asked me, a while ago, to do Tamar's story, and I promised I would. I even researched her, but the ache and pain of her story got me in a wrench. But I think I'm finally ready. Stay tuned. Grace and peace, Joanne
You are absolutely right! In the book that goes with these videos, the study I have for Anna asks what encouragement she must have gotten from the stories of women who had been prophets before her. There are three women prophets whose stories, in particular, must have been great models to follow and sources of strength. You named one of them, Deborah, whose story I tell in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nUJ8RYsQmcg.html The one who comes before Deborah is Miriam, and her story is in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EhLg48o7w9A.html Huldah's story is less well-known to Christians, but famous among those of Jewish faith: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H0pIWmnQpYc.html Thanks for mentioning Deborah, she is a favorite person in the Bible. Grace and peace, Joanne
This is one of my favorite story in the bible ❤ ♥it brings me tears every time I read the story!!!I shared the story with my daughters!!they love the story!! THANKS for sharing this is a great video!!!!
Thank you again for impeccable research, insights and point of view about the wife of Pontus who was a cruel and resilient warrior, but he loved his wife.. but my assessment is this: in the book of Joel,1. GOD is in the midst of Israel and the Word said that God will pour out his Spirit upon ALL flesh: and your sons and daughters shall prophecy, your old men shall see visions: and also upon servants and upon handmaids in those days will He pour out His Spirit, (Joel 2:28-29) and in Zechariah 12:10 that corresponded with Joel because Claudia was a God-fearer, she was honored with the spirit of grace and supplications that caused her to mourn in spirit .. And in Acts 21:9 is an example of daughters prophecy and in Proverbs 29:18 where there is no vision, the people perish and in Genesis 37:5 Joseph's dream about how GOD is going to use him as his family's deliverance and Matthew 2:12... warned in a dream and there is Cornelius Acts 10:1-8 when he saw in a vision about his salvation and then Peter of the same chapter to prepare him through a vision about salvation is for all flesh so therefore, being a GOD-FEARER matters and started the road to salvation to her and her house!!! Thank you again for sharing that beautiful message about the wife of Pilate!! I enjoyed it and appreciate you for enlightening me with it!!!😊😊❤❤
I wouldn't hold anything from that German dog Luther as viable information especially since he illegally with no authority dismissed all private revelations of the saints period!! He has zero authority. And was a liar..
Thank you for those encouraging words! I'm committed to going through these videos, and ones that need to be low music I'll upload as that. I already have a special request in for another video to alter, so I'll hopefully be able to take care of that by next week. Grace and peace, Joanne
You are right, God formally changed the character and presentation of Abram's and Sarai's names in a ceremony that acknowledged the profound change happening in their lives, the establishment of the patriarchal and matriarchal dynasty that would become Israel.
Thank you for taking the time to write your thought. I'm not quite sure what you mean, though from the context it sounds like your impression of God is not good. It can be hard work to remain self-aware about personal biases, owning the ones we have, and choosing the ones we're willing to let go of, however temporarily, in order the learn something new. One of our kids decided to major in materials science engineering in college, and her freshman class in physics began with the alarming announcement that everything she'd learned in high school was just plain wrong. That physics, applied as well as theoretical, was far too difficult for high schoolers to understand, so a simplified (and wrong) version is taught just to get across basic ideas. She was floored, realizing she was going to have to unlearn everything she knew in order to learn what her class had for her. But that's how I've approached reading the stories about women in the Bible. I've had to let go of what I'd been taught and told in order to see what's really there. And what's there is a very good God who is willing to love and work with really flawed people.
@GraceandPeaceJoanne hey thank you for the reply. Points for audience engagement. I haven't gone to school for theology or history. But I can read. My criticism is that much of what you glean when reading the biblical text, you supplement with other sources about those times and cultures, rather than simply reading what the text actually says. I haven't looked into the meaning behind the hebrew word you cited for a burnt offering and its alternative use. And i will later after work. I think the text clearly implies that he performed a physical sacrifice to God, but even if Jeptha didn't follow through with a burnt offering of his daughter, there are still 40 thousand reasons why Jeptha was a terrible evil warlord that should have been condemned if there is a good and just God.
I see what you mean. Yes, "reading what the text actually says" is harder than one might think. The oldest texts are in Hebrew, and Greek (the Septuagint). The English text is a heroic effort of scholars trying to get across a readable translation that is as faithful as possible to the actual words, and meaning. But consider how hard that is, with thousands of years in between us and the writer (and audience) and the wildly different cultures between us and them. Culture shapes us, including our language. Even today, international diplomacy is a very careful, mindful discipline because of the sometimes terrible gaffes that cause real problems that can happen one one is ignorant of the other's culture and language. Even in English, we can unwittingly offend between American English and British English. So that's why I try to give context, and look at the actual words of the text, not just the English words, and hope to bring across a better idea of what the text actually says, and actually means. I appreciate you giving me a chance to say all that. I'd have wanted to know all those things before I went to seminary. And I, too, value reading what the text really says.
She claims to have been baptized by paul yet paul names all who hes baptized & she isnt one of em, so im thinking this is bogus along with the other letter being released because they all conflict with His word, for example quoting scriptures with chapter & verse when chapter & verae didnt happen till 1400s? cmon man theres been alota fraud of christian relics throughout the years this aint no different
Thank you for weighing in. I've given citations for all the material I've presented, besides the Matthew 27:19 passage and the intriguing morsel in 2 Timothy 4:21. All the sources I've read come from church tradition, including the Orthodox church tradition. As you probably know, the Protestant canon is the leanest of all the Christian faith traditions, with 66 books, including 27 books in the Christian (New) Testament and 39 in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament). The Catholic Bible is composed of 73 books: an Old Testament of 46 books (including 7 deuterocanonical books and additional deuterocanonical content in 2 books) and a New Testament of 27 books. The Orthodox church considers 81 books canon, several of which are unfamiliar to Protestants, with 46 books in the OT and 32 in the NT. The Orthodox traditions surrounding the story of Pilate and his wife are rich in detail. As I explain at the beginning of the video, "some arms of the church-the Eastern Orthodox, Coptic, Oriental Orthodox and Ethiopian Orthodox-venerate Pilate’s wife as a saint, and some even venerate Pilate as well. Though the Bible does not give us much information about Pilate’s wife, she does appear in a number of ancient accounts that arose in the first few centuries of Christianity." I have a great respect for the ancient authors who--under horrific duress and danger to their lives and the lives of their churches--wrote down all they knew and had been passed on to them concerning the Lord and the first centuries of the church's formation. I understand your skepticism, especially with such little scriptural information. I am keeping an open mind, considering all these ancient sources as worth merit.
Hello - Prior to the arrival of my Son, Pilate's wife had approached him with these words - ``There is to come One before ye who is just and hath no sin in Him. See to it that ye do not condemn Him, or worse will befall us.'' She had the gift of foresight. - My Son, Ch.XXVI, p34 from The Winds of Truth Trust website. Blessings
