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Puritanism had nothing to do with religious freedom. The Pilgrim Fathers were the persecutors not the persecuted. We were well rid of them and their narrow minds.
In my study of travel narratives written during the Great Irish Famine I devote half of Chapter 6 to Tennyson’s visit to Aubrey de Vere’s Limerick family seat Curragh Chase during the Famine. Here -among other things-I argue that The Princess storyline is in part an allegory for the relationship between Ireland and England.
There is a Blue Plaque at the Boatyard that built the Mayflower at Killingholme Haven, near Immingham, Lincolnshire/South Humberside. From the Boatyard the first Pilgrims boarded the Mayflower. It also stopped at Grimsby and Boston before setting off for Holland. That was the History of the Mayflower as taught to me in Grimsby, my Birthtown, prior to joining the Military in 1976. By the time I returned to Grimsby in 1979 my parents had moved to South Killingholme not far from the Mayflowers construction site. I myself cycled from Killingholme to see the Blue Plaque when I returned to my Parents in 1980, prior to moving back to Gibraltar to live and work for a few years. Now I am retired and live in Essex, a lot milder climate that the Winter of 1963, when the snow was above the Front Door. Tony in Essex.
I don't think the boat was actually built in Killingholme, more likely Harwich. They actually joined another ship at Killingholme and went over to Holland. There are quite a few myths surrounding the voyage (including Boston's 'ownership' of the pilgrims - although they actually arrested them attempting to 'escape' and sent them back home!) They eventually sailed from Holland aboard the Speedwell but changed to the Mayflower after the Speedwell was found wanting. I hope we successfully addressed these facts in the documentary, although 'facts', as we know these days, can be slippery customers! Thanks for the comments anyway Tony.
@@user-TonyUK Do you have a photo of the plaque? I can't find any other references to it? We took a lot of the information from here..www.mayflower400uk.org/education/the-mayflower-story/
@@musictopictures I left Killingholme Village when I joined the Army in 1976 and when I left the Army I settled in Essex. Now I am a retired non driver so I have no need to go back the that area. I can only suggest you get in contact with the Heritage Organisation that issues the Blue Plaques for more information. Tony in Essex
Words of the Mayflower Compact> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-p23gF9jQdnM.htmlfeature=shared. The Geneva Bible is also iconic of the Mayflower.
I've been working on my family history. To ask one of my husband family members ,to find out the American Indian were the ones the people on the Mayflower got to meet. Small world but,still waiting from another family member to see it on paperwork
I just found out a few years back. I'm part of the Mayflower history. I wasn't sure until I asked one of my cousins. He sent me paperwork to prove I was right. I'm part of Myles Standish family throw his daughter Lucy. Now ,I can't wait to go see where they landed and see the Mayflower. It was in my State getting repaired. Do you think I was able to go . Nope
I am a descendant of William Bradford. Winslow Churchill, descendant of William Bradford, They were first settler’s in Illinois in 1834. Along with Mercy Dodge.
@@musictopictures I read about her, just now. Being raised a Christian Scientist, it sounds to me that Mary Baker Eddie, may have picked up where Hutchinson left off, by writing the Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures.
Please remember "Pilgrims" were not "Puritans". Pilgrims were Separatists. As Puritans flooded into the new world in Boston, the Pilgrims choose to work w/ them but they were not the same! That distinction is seldom maintained today(2023).
I am the twelfth greatgrand niece of Elder William Brewster. Christian Nationalism is not Christian. Not in the least. It is believed he drafted The Mayflower Compact. My twenty fourth Great Grandfather, William The Conqueror, The Duke of Normandy, King William I of England. President George Washington is my eight Great granduncle. Robert Treate Paine is my first cousin several generations removed. He signed The United States of America Constitution. His father, my Great grand Thomas Paine led, along with Benjamin Franklin, both, The French and American Revolutions. These are just a few of my relatives. Seems all of them followed a consistent calling. They would never vote for autocracy and much less a Trump.
I'm descended from Mayflower Passengers John Alden & Priscilla Mullins first daughter Elizabeth. Recently I discovered that my best friend since 1980 is descended from William Bradford, and Bradford and Alden both signed the Mayflower Compact!
That's great, quite a pedigree! I was recently in Leiden and visited the house where William Bradford lived, we should make a sequel! Are you a musician?
Many thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Actually I composed all of the music specifically for the video, all on very old equipment! More of my music is here musictopictures.co.uk
@@philalethes216 I'm afraid it's not anywhere other than on a defunct computer and the video! However, I did adapt some of the themes in new compositions, you can look through my orchestral pieces on my website.
@@musictopictures Thanks for the reply. I did check out the pieces on the website, and nice as they are, those sound much more modern and crisp to my ears compared to the nostalgic feel of the more classic theme in the video. I found the atmosphere of the documentary quite moving in part because of it.
Thank you for this. We are woefully ignorant of what our fore bearers went through to get here. I am 45 and just now learning. Shoutout to my great (forgot how many greats) uncle John Howland for being brave enough to trek away from the oppression. His brother Henry (my direct ancestor) followed and established his brood here at a later date.
Yes isn't he. David Collings, he was an actor in lots of classics back in the 60s and 70s, Dickens etc. and then lots of radio plays. We were lucky to have met him when he lived in our town and he agreed to do it for nothing! I've never heard a better version of Crossing the Bar before or since.
Considering the horrendous poverty of the majority of the British people at this time English poets seem to have lived lives of comfort and privilege. The narrator says that Tennyson was now poor - I think that the common man or woman would have replied that "We should be so poor". I've noticed that those who purport to despise 'materialism' themselves live in very comfortable circumstances.
I guess the word 'poor' is not a very accurate measure in many respects, and quite subjective? Certainly Victorian society had huge disparities in wealth, much like today sadly, and maybe forever? Many thanks for watching and commenting.
Not all of them. Keats died at 25 in poverty. Most of the poets came from the class who had the money to get a classical education--translating Greek and Latin poetry makes you halfway to being a poet already.
Last Christmas I received a collection of his poems from 1870, since I collect antique books. He is now unequivocally my favorite poet. Far ahead of his time in my opinion, or maybe just the right time to influence the people he has. I write music and he has definitely influenced my phrasing. Also, found this cool song that's related to him. Thought I'd drop it here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IwRoXr4Msm0.html
Thanks for that Wilhelm, I think his status as a Victorian Poet Laureate led to a reputation as a stuffy old establishment poet, but he wrote some very tender and moving pieces I think.
@@musictopictures His poetry to me is extremely raw and endearing, depressingly beautiful. I just feel that not many people of his era spoke of the things he did in such a tangible realistic way. That's why I love him so much. His work will probably never seem dated, it's been nearly 200 years and it still seems relatable and fresh. Maybe that's just me.
Yes Wilhelm. He was - and still is - a giant . His best work is among the greatest in English OR any literature .. I rate him alongside Yeats and Eliot . And , oddly enough , Larkin .!
@@WilhelmWilder Relatable and fresh: I agree. Earlier, I was reading why he wrote Amphion. The reason given was that he felt that people no longer appreciated such poetry as was then written. Heaven knows what he would make of what passes for poetry today!
After Puritan Calvinist leader, Oliver Cromwell, received the necessary funds from the Netherland bankers, with the promise of allowing the Jews back into England, he usurped the English throne aka Charles 1 by committing regicide because the king's mom was Catholic and so was his wife. Then, he proceeded to outlaw the public display of Christmas and negate the Magna Carta, which is like our Bill of Rights. Afterwards, he proceeded to slaughter Irish Catholic men, women, and children of Drogheda Ireland and the surrounding counties, totaling 1.5 million souls. He and his followers usurped their property. The remaining captives were brought to the Caribbean as indentured servants. The King's son forced them out of England, so they set sail for America. These murderous, usurping souls were called the Puritan Calvinist "Pilgrims". After the Native Americans helped them to survive their first harsh New England winter aka Thanksgiving, they slaughtered the Native Americans. When they lived in Salem Massachusetts, they conveniently believed the false allegations regarding witchcraft and many were put to death while their accusers usurped their property. Sounds familiar.... THE PILGRIMS WERE A MURDEROUS BUNCH OF ENVIOUS PEOPLE, WHO PRESENTED THEMSELVES AS LAMBS, BUT WERE REALLY WOLVES. THAT IS WHY THE GOVERNOR DISBANDED THIS EVIL CULT.
Thanks from Massachusetts, It's always great to come across this level of ind-depth historical content regarding the early days of the Pilgrims. I've visited Derby in 2012 but I've always wondered what towns like Scrooby and Austerfield are like. I awlways imagine them as small quite hamlets as if it were still the sixteenth century
I know I’ve replied quite late but I’m from the area where the pilgrims set off to Massachusetts and my interest is, how many of the locals in Massachusetts know their ancestry or how it was put on the map, would be interesting to hear