This was the design of the c2010 Chevy Volt ...a real car solution with minimal infrastructure demands. Plug in at home and get your daily commute by EV 5+ days a week. Then use gasoline for highways where congested air pollution is not an issue. At that time the Prius was so small an EV half of the hybrid that it was basically a stoplight and gridlock motor only. Glad Toyota uppedit to a real 50:50 hybrid. GM cancelled that Volt platform to get the 2013 tax credits for The Bolt. The Volt was a far better system IRL. As to cost...you have $160 in home charging and 9.4gal of Gas at $30...total $190 for 3000 mi My 40mpg Ford IC only costs 75gals/3000mi at $225...a small cost savings over the Ford of $35. That close, I'd choose economy based on purchase price and insurance. If I installed a 220VAC desicated charger in the location I park my car...that would cost me about $800 to $1000 to do it legally with an electrician and 80 ft of trenching.
What do you think is your combined (gasoline + electricity) cost per mile? ========= I’m currently getting around $.115 per mile with my ICE car. ~ 11.5 cents per mile. ~ I paid $x.xx and drove y miles on my last fillup. $x.xx / y = $.115 11.5 cents per mile.
John, great question, I guess if I take $27.94 from my gas and the $157.53 from my calculated charging for the period and divide by 3050 miles, I get 6 cents per mile.
I thought you might be interested to know that the Toyota Prius Design in Silver Metallic I ordered in March which was expected to be delivered in June/July but, due to the rear door switch issue, will not arrive here in the UK until September. As one of the first to order it will be one of the first to be marketed here. Apparently the first two batches of 50 & 40 cars will be supplied to dealers as demonstrators. Due to the delay there is no issue with the return of my deposit if I cancel. Is this car worth the wait?
Nick I would say it depends on what you expect and want from the car, as well as, your driving needs. It’s not the end all be all, though for me it worked for what I needed at the moment.
that is good news Nick ,I am in the same boat as yourself ,but how did you find out the delivery info as my Toyota dealer HASN'T even told me what's going on, I was the first to inform my dealer about the recall and Prius factory production halt 😭..keep up the good work Mark like the utube videos 👍
I don’t understand. Is it just your daily driving demands? My Tesla uses $40/month here in Florida. Just seems like a lot. I’m on a 75kwh battery at .17.
My electric costs .24 per KwH and I am adjusting consumption reported on Toyota app using actual meter. Power is expensive up in NY, though still cheaper than gasoline and more convenient for me overall. I still haven’t been to the gas station since March 29 and it’s June now.
Think it’s just calculating incorrectly by considering the full capacity of the battery and not factoring in that 30% is not accessible to the driver and reserved for other car operations.
4:33 4 @ manuals.telematicsct.com EV driving may be canceled auto- stances manialy in the following circum • When vehicle speed is more than approximately 84 mph (135 km/h). •When power is needed temporar-ily, for example when the accelerator pedal is depressed firmly o when accelerating suddenly. When the temperature of the hybrid system is high. The vehicle has been left in the sun, driven on a hill, driven at high speeds, etc. When the temperature of the hybrid system is low. When the heater is switched on when the outside temperature is below about 14°F (-10°C). • When the windshield defogger switch is pressed. (→P.434) When the system determines that the gasoline engine needs to be started. *1: The gasoline engine may also operate in circumstances other than those listed above, depending on conditions. *2: When driving in AUTO EV/HV mode. Even in EV mode, the gasoline engine may start
@@MarkCeeee And ever forced out of pure EV? This is really important for me and it's really difficult to find any info online. Basically the manual states 3 reasons regarding the cold temperatures that may cause the ICE to run (as you said before): ●When the temperature of the hybrid system is low. ●When the heater is switched on when the outside temperature is below about -10°C (14°F). ●When the windshield defogger switch is pressed. I'm just curious if it happens that it's, say, 20°F, and the car runs as HV because 'the temp. of the hybrid system is low'. Thanks ever so much for all answers you provided!
The app grossly underreports consumption. Been tracking with a meter at the outlet, and the app reports about 50-60% of the actual kWh consumed. Even without the meter, it doesn't pass basic test. It reports taking only about 2.5 kWh to go from 30% to 80%. But we know it should take more than double that based on the battery capacity. Its just buggy app.
Toyota did replace at no charge, but glad it you found it helpful. Personally very surprised myself as it’s not something I would have expected with Toyota.
Not sure I am wrong as you need an adapter, so from the factory only ready for a 110v outlet and see page 107 of your manual which indicates it is not recommended for a conversion plug per Toyota.
Also read page 107 of your owners manual which says - “WARNING Power sources precautions Observe the following precau-tions. If you do not follow them, fire, electrical shock or damage may or serious sily resulting in death • Connect to an AC 120 V outlet (NEMA 5-15R) with a Ground-Fault Circuit-Interrupter (GFCI) and supplied by a circuit breaker per your local code. Use of a 15A individual circuit is strongly recommended. Do not connect the AC charging cable to a multi-outlet adaptor, multi-plugs, or conversion plug.”
I wonder why the Toyota app shows such a big difference in KWH used vs. your meter. I understand that charging losses are incurred, but they shouldn’t be nearly that big.
The accessible battery is only 70% of actual capacity as remaining is used for hybrid operations. You notice it when you fully deplete battery and app there is 35% remaining. There is a bug in the app for sure as I confirmed even with Level 2 Public charging and Toyota app is off by 60%.
Where would the charge history in the Toyota app be, Mark? In my iPhone app, I can only find "Eco History". It doesn't give me the kW charge per session info that you have. For each history date that is displayed in my app a table shows "1000.0 MPG", which is not useful to me.
Steve when you open the app, you should see the miles remaining in the top left corner, click there and you should see history, schedule and statistics, click history and you will see your sessions.
Hello Again Mark, We have seen the battery range increase incrementally with our Prime as the weather here improves. Being well North of you, our temperatures increase at a slower rate. In late March when the ambient day time thermometer read around 4c we saw 60Km on a charge. Now that the days have gotten warmer (above 11c), we are are getting 80Km. On one 17c day I got 81.5Km with the gauge telling me there was 38% charge left. Keep in mind, that's careful peddle use and with no AC loads for heat and such. We've gone 2,117Km (1,323.1 M), so far and, there's still dealer gas in the tank. We run on EV as much as possible.
Hi Tom, Your experience parallels mine as of late as I am seeing 50-54 miles of EV range with the warmer temperatures. I’m over 2000 miles now and counting on my current tank of gas and will do a video update on charging usage and next fill up when the time comes. Last fill up was March 29th.
If you turn things off like ‘Lane Departure Alert System’ do they stay turned off permanently or do you have to turn them off at the beginning of every journey?
@@nicholascrocker4329 With our Canadian Spec'd model your settings for features stay where you set them until you decide otherwise. Works great. When/if...........We waited 21 months for our 2024 Prime ! The new wait time in our province is a painful 3 years. That has to have a massive impact on sales. Hope you will love your new Prius as much as we love ours. Cheers Nicholas.
why did it say on your phone app, your tyre pressure was 35 on your front wheels. But on your car screen it said 34 for your front wheels, nice vid's good job 👍
@@MarkCeeee Sorry I wasn't being picky, i've ordered the 2024 Prius, but because of the recall on back door, got to wait bit longer for it as they're sorting out the issue . Am sooo looking forward to getting it, hopefully soon ☺ thanks for the info 👍
If I am not watching the instrument cluster there are two ways I might first notice that the battery has been depleted: Increased responsiveness and a little new noise. Usually I get both at the same time when I try to accelerate and the Prius REALLY goes plus the engine noise becomes noticeable. Then I look at the instrument cluster and go "Oh, yeah,..."
@@MarkCeeee When I am cruising at a steady speed of about 80mph and HV mode switches on I hear no change. Maybe it is my hearing combined with all the other road noise. If I accelerate at all then yeah, I hear the engine.
@MarkCeeee trust me I heard that from every dealer also. I got mine used with around 1000 miles on it. It was the managers. So it had everything I wanted on it already. Like I said truly a blessing. So I from the dealership told me is that they can't sell new vehicles ATM. So I canceled the one I had on hold from another dealer before the recall.
Love my Prime but live had issues as well. Gas was leaking at the cap. The cause was a defective gas tank. Dealer replaced it but the process took 3 weeks. Love the car but first year model problems are to be expected .
Why do you think your door seals went bad? Was it the driver door? I'v not noticed any degradation of mine. Could it have been salt? Im in FL with no cold weather.
Not sure, but it’s the driver side and maybe from squeezing in and out of the car. I never had this issue with any Toyotas I’ve owned previously and the dealer replaced at no charge. I am careful now getting in though not sure what actually caused it, maybe a defective part. Car is garaged so not sure if it’s weather related. Stripping seemed very flimsy and split occurred much higher than my entry point.
I have 1,500 odometer miles on my 2024 Prius Prime since taking delivery in early January. To date, I still have 3/4 tank of gas from the original dealer fill. I have purchased about 13 kW electricity through my home utility grid. The rest of charging has come from a free EV station or from excess home PV production. I estimate my out of pocket gas and electricity cost total about $25. In my situation I am pleased having chosen this Prius. I am glad the Prius computer will inform when the fuel tank needs some fresh gas to negate stale gas issues, since it could be a while before I need to replenish the tank.
If you set the car to automatic it will switch to HV mode as needed. I use free public charging when I can as well. With my last fill up I got over 1900 miles ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R93n6u_KiXg.htmlsi=NSTRF0v0pvnEkmOv
@@MarkCeeee I don't have an issue with my Prius set to EV mode primarily. I am grateful to be using free electricity the vast majority of the time for battery charging. I would rather use up my battery charge before going to the gas engine. In the few times when the battery becomes drained, the gas engine will kick in on HV mode. In my area, gas powered miles are less expensive than electric powered miles whenever I have to purchase electricity from the grid.
*If you need to let the car sit for a few days, try leaving the charge at around 50%.* Until the night before you’re going to drive it. Then finish charging it all the way as normal. ============ Here’s why I suggest that: Last year I heard “The Car Care Nut”… (a mechanic who left a Toyota dealership in Chicago after 20 years… to open his own shop) …say that batteries are the most stable at around 50% charge. He mentioned that’s why new cell phones are always at 50% charge when you take them out of the box: The factory shipped them in the most stable condition. He also said something about 100% being very unstable. That’s why the Prius wants to know when you’ll start driving in the morning: It will adjust the charging speed so that it gets to 100% just when you’re about to get in and start driving. (And so scheduling the charging really helps the battery.) And I think he said that 80% was much more stable than 100%.
Good video - I’m averaging 16.4kw/h per 100km which works out to a range of just under 83km (51.5 miles) on average, with the 19 inch rims, doing exactly what you mentioned.
Interesting, we finally got our 2024 Prime after a 21 month wait. After 1,300km and using full EV mode, we get on average 80km on battery alone. Good considering the ambient temperatures currently hover around 5c. There are no flat roads here. To get my wife to and from her (post) health care career to her part time job involves a decent of almost 500' and then that long climb back up. I expect the distance to increase when the temperatures rise. As you know, you need to be conscious of driving habits to achieve 80km of range. This is our first Prime but, third Prius. Would it not be great if a 2025, and beyond model(s), offered even more EV range.
I have been wondering about this. The car tells you how much charge it received, but that is not the same as the power delivered to the charger. There is always loss. The power company, of course, charges you for electricity taken at the AC outlet, not what the car actually got from the charger. I did discover that the quality of my extension cord that the charger is plugged into makes a serious difference. I swapped cords and started using an older cord I had lying around, and my Prius was not charging overnight. It turned out that the end of the cord had a problem and where the charger plugged into it would get warm, too warm. It was a resistive connection, not a clean connection. The charger plug has a temperature sensor in it, and if it gets too warm, as a safety feature, the charger shuts off. I switched back to my newer cord and the problem went away.
I have a problem with keeping my windshield clean on my 2023 Prius Prime XSE Premium. The problem is that the only time I ever cleaned my windshield, historically speaking, was when I filled the tank. It has now been several months and my tank is still full, all my driving is being done on battery alone. It looks like I am going to need to get myself a bucket and a squeegee. The rear window needs attention too.
We got our 24 Prime a month ago. So far, it is returning 80km (50 miles), on a battery charge. That's enough for our daily needs. We have driven 1,250km (782.25 miles), to date and there's over 3/4's of fuel still in the tank. We pay .14 cents for each Kilowatt Hour and close to $7.50 per US gallon for gas. Needless to say, the car gets plugged in every night and we are saving money. This is our third Prius but first plug-in. Love it so far and no, it's not slow, as you already know.
Thanks for watching and I did a follow up where I averaged even more here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R93n6u_KiXg.htmlsi=vyPUgVlpQuqxDBLY
