Overall I liked the nikon colors and resolution better but sony has better low light DR, specially in the -5 EV though that's an extreme test but still Sony's better there
We haven't tested them side by side but Nikon Z8 has better noise performance than Z6 III. FX3 is likely better but there aren't that many cameras on the market with same low light capabilities.
Hi, Thanks for the video. I just upgraded to Z6III. How do you use the Cinema Tools N-Log LUT in Final Cut Pro? (Considering to buy) The way I use it with my previous camera was using customLUT. Input Rec709, output Rec709. Library color setting: SDR Should I change the CustomLUT Input to Rec2020, output Rec709, and Library color to Wide Gamut? since Z6III records in Rec2020 I thinking about learning DaVinci Resolve but still finding the time to learn the editing (cut clips etc). Thanks again.
Thanks for watching. I'm unfamiliar with Final Cut color management, but the LUTs are created for REC2020/N-Log gamma input and the output is Rec709 color space. The timeline/display setting should be Rec709 (SDR). Let me know if you have other questions.
More competition means better options. Having internal RAW at this price point will push other companies to implement it, or at least give us better codecs.
Don’t forger that Nikon released the z9 3 years ago and already offered internal raw in video, while sony in 2024, does not offer it yet... just to say that no Nikon is not late, maybe even ahead...
Thanks so much for this comparison. I currently have the z6iii and love everything about the camera besides the high noise especially in shadows. The flickering noise is also a problem for me. Coming from canon c70 I’m not used to the super noisy shadows. This test definitely confirms that my copy isn’t the only one with lots of noise. At some points it’s almost unusable in my opinion. I wish Nikon would fix this, not sure if it’s a sensor issue or a log profile issue.
Yes, that's the biggest downside of Z6 III. And it's not the profile, because Z9/Z8 don't have the same issue. I'm not sure if it's possible as a firmware fix. If you're working in Davinci Resolve, you can remove the flickering by using Deflicker ofx. It's quite resource heavy but it's pretty good at eliminating it.
Awesome test, I have been wondering which one would have better slowmotion for a while. I would be curious to know more about the differences in the 240fps mode
wow, they are awfully close. Sony def has the edge at higher iso. When I shoot my Z8 and A7SIII side by side, the Z8 easily beats it with better color and sharpness. Def. no problem shooting these and being able to match them in post. The killer is no dual slot recording on the Nikons.
Thank you for the comparison. I think that in h265 compression, the fx3 is better because of s-log3, more internal noise reduction (= less noise) and 422 10bits (vs 420 10 bits for he nikon)…but if you shoot nraw, you will have more latitude, more control of the noise and more « cinema feeling » on nikon cameras But otherwise the two cameras seem quite close to me in what we can produce as a final product (provided we work in raw with Nikon)
Thank you for watching. It makes sense for N-Raw to have better DR, but we didn't see any difference in our initial test. We will get back to it in a future video.
Oh man… you compared 2 cameras that placed in a different classes… it’s better to compare with z8 which is still 30% cheaper and will beat created for a top video fx3 just easily. Try to compare with a7 iv -v and there’ll be a result.
While I don't think the lattitude of the Nikon is quite as good as the Sony in general, I do think it's important to note that the Sony is doing much more noise reduction in camera, so seeing a bit more range in the shadows makes sense if comparing them directly.
True but we set Nikon to H265 for a fair comparison, which also applies noise reduction. It can be cleaned up in post but it doesn't hold up shadow details as well as the FX3.
@@cinematools9621 yea. I def think the Sony is better in that regard. Just saying in my experience to get the most shadow detail out of this specific cam, you really need to use nraw and expose as bright as you can without clipping…def currently a camera that requires a healthy dose of ettr and some post noise reduction at times, but with those both combined it’s pretty good. Hoping they work on it some. You should be able to stretch the range a bit like on Z8 without problems and without having to worry about flashing shadows
the biggest takeaway here for me is that Nitrate is substantially cheaper than the other options (apart from the cinematools but its not quite the same) unless youre happy with resolves built in tools, which are fairly flexible in my opinion
I was interested in the comparison between the 6k n-raw and h265 and prores which max out at 5.4k instead of 6k. The n-raw was a lot better in the comparison but I wonder if the difference was partially as a result of the resolution difference? Since the advantage of 6k n-raw also held over prores, I think it's the in camera processing more than the h265 compression causing the degradation. I would be so interested to see a comparison of 8k n-raw from the z8 to 8k 4:2:2 500mbps with the Sony a1 to see if Sony's processing is any better.
@@cinematools9621 I believe the n-raw full width in 4k is line skipped or pixel binned, so if it's sharper than h265 uhd oversampled, that would be really interesting.
@@LY121688 you're correct, 4K N-Raw looks worse than ProRes and H265. It appears sharper on a full screen but when I zoom in I see a lot of artifacts in the image.
Yep, nice test. Something that I missed, the sport plus e stabilisation is very very good. Might even say as good as gimbal. I saw perhaps 1-2 little jump, but perhaps they should tweak the algo a little bit or crop a little bit more.
By far the best test yet - very clarifying for me. The flicker issues are prevalent but only when you're actively looking for them - I think this issue is a bit overblown. Otherwise the IQ is beautiful, detailed without excessive sharpening or moire, great highlight rolloffs and detail is preserved well at higher ISOs.
@@minktronics H265 might look cleaner but I prefer the texture and noise pattern of N-Raw. It looks very organic if exposed properly, almost like film grain. It's hard to tell with RU-vid compression but you can check our blog for the still images. The link is in the description.
I prefer Leeming LUT my only issue is to get proper exposure (they recommend exposing to the right) its like 3 stops brighter than a standard in camera slog3 to 709 display assist. You're video shows you're using the same iso for each of the LUTS.
@@cinematools9621 Im using S5ii with Vlog color profile converted rec 709 then I applied your Luts and the result was too much saturated the skin tone was burned way more your sample.. I'll do email them now.. Thanks!
I’ve done a lot of testing and I find out that prime lenses are way better than zoom lenses with stabilization. Sony and Samyang prime lenses works better than Sony and Sigma zoom lenses in all stabilization modes.
I've come back to this video lots & decided not to get the Zf b/c it was so blurry compared to the Z8. How do you think the Z6iii would fair against the Z8, now that it's been released? Do you think there would be any improvement in h265 UHD?
Thanks for the comparison. Nothing from the list is giving a feel of the film. Sometimes Dehancer is littlle bit closer than others. But still it feels like processed digital, not film.
