That's such a bad argument lol. There are A/B tests of real Mesa Boogies vs the Amplitube Mesa Boogies and you literally can't tell a difference. Let's be real, most of the real world tone comes from cabs and if you run an amp sim into a cab it'll sound IDENTICAL to a tube amp being run into a cab. I love physical amps as much as the next guy but there's no denying amp sims are the future

​@@lathrinSo many amp sims and amp/multi effects pedals are good options for people who don't want to carry a giant guitar rig around. Once the fizzy requencies of some amp sims are removed I can't even tell they are not real amps if I don't know. I myself have some heavy gear and it's not a big deal to me now that I'm stronger. Heck, I think it's worth getting stronger if you like big Tube amp setups, I would use a trolley for super long distances with my heavy guitar amp setup though, but short distances are fine. I also use either Bias FX II or my Boss ME25 to get some tone matching for some covers and I have a good ear for guitar tones.

​@@lathrin i would rather run a real preamp into ir loader than a preamp plugin into real cab. don't forget that didgital effects ALWAYS has latency, at least short latency. so even if you would make a good plugin it would still be slower than real amp also when you do compare AB plugin with a real amp you just only compare one single setting. i have mesa boogie diy clone and i also have watched a lot of vst comparisons and have decided that helix native has a good rectifier simulator. but it was impossible to set up helix with the same sound as my setting of choice from real unit amp sims is always an approximation, first you have to examine the real amp, next you have to discover some math functions which can work simillar to real process and so on. each step makes your sim further from real amp. the only way to really simulate the amp is to make a quantum simulation of a real unit

@@chexi The latency from many plugins nowadays is similar to the latency from standing a couple feet or 1 metre further away from your speaker/cab and playing. pretty minimal, and its something that you also have to take into account with where you are playing regardless of whether you are using a plugin or not (although, it does add a bit more on top which can be important. Second issue I have with this comment is that not many people actually use plugins as a means of replicating a real amp. They just use it, for the sounds it produces. Yes it might not be completely accurate to a real amp, but often people don't even want it to sound like that, and the idea of picking out certain tones and deeming them better or worse is stupid, especially if its swayed by if its an amp sim or not. We are talking about signals, often going through tons of pedals that work to distort it in various ways, getting amplified in a means that typically distorts it more etc. The idea of it not being good because part of that chain involves some other alteration to the signal that distorts it in some way is ridiculous.

​@@johntravoltage959 about the latency 1. human perception is very sensitive to integrity of reality. it's enough to hit one single note on a real amp and listen to amp itself and its room reflections to understand that is a real amp. digital amp othervise if it has 3.3ms latency (1 meter distance) is totaly brokes the perception of sound. you walks closer to the speaker and sound still comes delayed. you walks further from the amp and sound cames even later than it should be 2. if we talk about real live work - you can have digital mixer console, you can have digital guitar wireless, you can have digital monitoring and also a digital multieffect so overall latency can reach over 10ms which is an undoubtedly recognizeble even without a trained ears and complex test conditions 3. if you practicing home you can hear the tactile and acoustic feedback from your electric guitar and here even the 3ms gets obviously recognizable by overlapping the attack peaks. guitar picking attack is very loud and short so even the 3-4ms delay gets noticeable against the commonly known "10ms perception threshold". if you ever tried analog cabsim headphones practice when the sound appears immediately in your brain you wouldn't want to return to anything longer than 1ms about the real amp reproduction well okay but most of the digital amps is meant to be some real thing replica. and the ideas of plugins is to give the sound of real reference amp. there is (almost) no originally digital amps beside of some helix and axe originally digital models i guess. there is no any strong researches in originally digital amps. we're all raised by the real amp recordings our taste is shaped by the real amp sound. even some nowadays artists who have recording their music with plugins still mimic the real amp sound aesthetic about the distorted sound distortion has a lot of parameters, for example: symmethric or assymethric saturation, ballance between odd and even harmonics, tilt shift of a overtones series. then the same sound wave can have a different shape because of phase shifting so it would affect the way it distorts overall it forms the distortion quality. in technical terms it can partially be shown by a volt-ampere curve actyally that's why transistor distortion sounds different from a tube one my point is that real amp can have some unique and highly valuable distortion qualities (because of some psychologial and then again physics laws). you can not just program some distortion algorythm by instinct which would sound the same as a real amp or at least pleasant to ears. to claim what makes sound pleasant you have to research psychology but it's not the case as long as we have a perfect pleasant sound reference represented by the real amps. and to claim what makes digital distortion similar to analogue you have to research physics. and then research programing to implement those researched physics laws... with every step you loose some distortion qualities which you had on a real amp

Good riffs?

Took you long enough to figure it out.

Thats like saying "every movie ever made is over an hour long" :sounds like you're complaining but you're not wrong