Major Tom, does not die in Bowie's version of Space Oddity. If you listen to David Bowie's song Ashes To Ashes, from the Scary Monsters album, you will find that Major Tom comes back to Earth and is hooked on wonder drugs. Ashes To Ashes funk to funky we know Major Tom's a junkie strung out on heavens high hitting an all time low. So The lovely & talented Emm Gryner is wrong about the fate of Major Tom. Don't get me wrong I'm a big fan of Emm Gryner, but I've been a David Bowie fan for 55 years and know David Bowie's music very well.
Well, I should probably let you take up that debate with her, but here's my take: I'm familiar with Ashes to Ashes as well and I'm sure I'm not as big Bowie fan as you are, but since Emm was in David's band and knew him to some degree, it's conceivable that David even told her that Tom dies in the song. It certainly would seem that Tom would have to have died being stranded and losing communication. I don't know that I agree that Ashes to Ashes necessarily indicates that Tom somehow made it back from the mission sung about in Space Oddity. It could be that Ashes to Ashes refers to a different situation that happened prior to the Space Oddity scenario. David Bowie has said the ending of 2001 was somewhat comparable to what happens to Major Tom. While there is some debate about that ending, it seems pretty clear that the astronaut does die. But apparently he then gets transformed into some other sort of being and sent back to Earth (alive again) after death. So, that could be a scenario where Emm is correct, but you're also correct that Tom is somehow brought back to life on Earth. Or Ashes to Ashes could simply be just Bowie imagining an alternate universe where Tom never dies and becomes a junky. Of course, you *could* be correct in your interpretation, but maybe Space Oddity or Ashes to Ashes (like many songs) are somewhat open to interpretation. So, maybe there isn't a 100% definitive way interpreting what happens to Tom. I've always assumed that he dies based on the lyrics, but it's not a hill I'm going to die on. Lol Appreciate your take though! Maybe I'll ask her about it some day?
Of course you to are right as well I think that all of Bowie's songs are definitely up to interpretation. So it could be that there is no right or wrong answers to any of David Bowie's work, but it's definitely fun to discuss & speculate about. Thanks for your reply I enjoyed reading it. Good point of view.
She’s not the greatest live but you gotta respect the fact that they chose to play live at just about every performance they had. Which was rare in mainstream those days.
i met and interviewed Peter in Stockholm back in 2006, and he was one of the nicest guys i had ever met. i was almost an hour late to the interview and i thought he must have left, but he was still there waiting for me, and he apologised to me instead of me apologising to him!
Yeah, he’s friendly. I met him in 2004 and spoke to him for a few minutes. It’s sad he’s decided to retire. 😢 I interviewed Magnus a few years ago. Really nice and patient guy as well!
@@DSBacthat’s awesome. I met Nina twice at her solo shows in NY and she was very nice. Peter hasn’t retired - he’s been writing songs for other artists such as Ariana Grande and The Weekend. I do wish he’d collaborate with the Cardigans again to record a new album or at least do some tour dates (somewhere in the eastern United States 😉)
Way back yonder when Music from big pink first played on my turntable, I knew this was something special. I still dug the Zepplin, Kinks CSN&Y ETC ETC. But the BAND, they were the cat's meow. "When I paint my masterpiece" tells a story, the story is their music is THE MASTERPEICE.
The song takes you on an emotional journey that is hard to explain. The tune is so powerful I am sure I've sung it hundreds of times. As I sing it there is such a powerful feeling that comes over me, it's as if I am transported back to the Civil War and a feeling comes over me actually being there caught up in all it's act!
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Wow this is awsome Dale!! What an honour that you were with Emm and I was shocked that she play Symphonic, my fav Emm's song!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾 Grattis!!! And cheers from Mexico City!
Slavery was also legal ion the Northen states. At the start of thew war there were 4 Northen states that owned slaves. At the end of the war only 3 Northen states owned slaves.And owned those slaves for an additional 2 years.
"whole new point of view" and it can bring you to tears. I just hear the blues in their music. REAL blues man, because of the sadness it's beautiful. and that is a breath of fresh air.
I love this song, and being black it tends to cause problems for me when I want to sing it. I am in a band and we do Folk Bluegrass. Rock and blues. One of the other band members who play the banjo is also black and we had a gig coming up, I had this song on our list of songs we were going to play, I got a call from our banjo player and he told me he had a problem with the song, and if I did it he was going to set out and not play.. So I told him I understood. But I look at it this way, all war is bad. And the Civil War was the worst. I think it is Ironic that this was called the Civil War because in truth there was nothing civil about it at all. This war saddens me for so many reasons. Robbie says Lavon's father declared one day the South will rise again. What does that mean, especially for someone like me? Does this mean I go into shackles and my humanity is taken away from me? Does it mean I become someone's farm animal? The song as I look at it is about my southern brothers, I say brothers because they are of the human race. The poet John Donne wrote "No Man Is An Island." I feel for the soldiers from the south who fell because they were human just like me. I feel for the farmers who lost their land during this conflict. But I say this, it had to happen. Just read Uncle Tom's Cabin and you will know why this had to be. But I can still feel for Robbie's character in the song Virgil Kane because he is human, no matter what his race is. Is the song saying the Union of this nation should have never happened? Is it saying that slavery should still be in practice? I really don't think so. I think it is about a man who got caught up in the Civil War and suffered from the consequences. In truth I think the Band wrote an antiwar song. I shudder to think that it could mean more than that,
I perform My Old Kentucky Home and always get compliments and praised for the way I do it. But occasionally somebody approaches me and says, I can't believe you do that song. Stephen Foster wrote that song After reading Uncle Tom's Cabin in 1851. I think it really captures the sentiment of a black slave being sold down river and separated from his family. A great songwriter can capture the sentiment of Past Times
It is an extraordinary song, and one of my all time favorites. But after years of loving it I have come to realize that it also celebrates a part of the south -- perhaps a good part -- without recognizing that it ignores the terrible imposition made by the leaders of the South, who supported the evil condition of slavery. Part of our current politics depends on those still living that evil, and I would like this song to not give it any support. If I had been able, I would have asked Robbie to write additional verses, from both the viewpoint of a slave, and of a white man or woman (I think of Joan Baez singing this) not wanting to be forced to support slavery nor to be denied his or her friends.
So many people celebrating this song. I believe Sherman said something like “war is hell”. He was right. And although I certainly sympathize with dirt farmers who had everything taken from them, probably from their own side in the war, and starving, they were and still are missing the point of the Civil War. Using pride and “honor”, leaders in the Southern states had persuaded southerners that they should give their lives for a cause that was not just wrong but actually evil. Slavery. 150 years later they still blame the North for their fate during and after that time. “The South will rise again?” There’s only one thing a statement like that could mean. Reinstalling human slavery. All southerners that fought for the Confederacy were traitors to the United States of America. What they should be saying is “Never Again”. Never again will we be talked into supporting and fighting for a cause that is at its most fundamental-evil. Right now in our history people are starting down that road. Supporting Trump and Fascist Kleptocracy. Another evil. Destroying our democracy. Breaking their oaths to protect and defend the Constitution. For what. Is this a new Confederacy? I hope not.
Rest Easy, Robbie.There will never anyone who could fill your shoes.Thanks for lifting me up when I was so very down. I cannot watch the first Scene of The Last Waltz without crying." Good Night and Good Bye..
